EPT[GSL] 2012 Season 2 Up/Down Matches Day 4 - Page 121
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44328 Posts
On March 16 2012 01:13 Heimatloser wrote: im more of a huk antifan, since naniwa is my favourite my favourite foreign toss. but im not happy about the way he didnt advance. yes, there are numerous tournaments which count head to head between tied players in a draw situation, and i always find it stupid. It would become too complicated to assign arbitrary sub-points for each win taken off a player with a losing record and a player with a winning record in that round robin. It would also become too tie-prone if who beat who no longer mattered. There would be too many variables, it would take too long to calculate, and there would most likely be less consistency with the format. While some level of a player's fate may be left in the hands of other players (although if HuK won all his matches, there is zero chance of it being left up to other players' games), this is simple and easy to understand and run. At the moment, it seems to be the best format, which is why most tournaments use it. | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On March 16 2012 01:13 Heimatloser wrote: im more of a huk antifan, since naniwa is my favourite my favourite foreign toss. but im not happy about the way he didnt advance. yes, there are numerous tournaments which count head to head between tied players in a draw situation, and i always find it stupid. Tonight's matches went five hours. Doing a tiebreak that can end in a tie and go into yet another tiebreak can add a lot more time. Using head-to-head to decide a tie is perfectly reasonable -- if you don't like it, that's fine, but what do you really want them to do? This is pretty common in a lot of sports. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Shame he does absolutely NOTHING with his Code S spot though :/. | ||
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Falconblade
United States1035 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
Yes, he did well today, and deservedly won a code S spot, but we who feel this way should be allowed to feel disappointed without being accused of belittling his skill. While head-to-head as a tiebreaker is conventient and efficient, I feel it's an open question whether or not it's a good one, statistically speaking. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
*game 15 vs Virus | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
He wasn't baby fed free spots into Code A and Up and Downs. Don't know why people are so hell bent on wanting Huk in Code S, he'd easily be the worst player in it, along with Nani. As it stands this is the most stacked Code S we've ever had, should be a great season. | ||
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Dumboprime
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On March 15 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote: Virus for first place (I can dream right?)! Hahaha. Yes you can! Poor Huk  | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 16 2012 01:34 TheBB wrote: Like many others I have just about zero emotional connection with Virus, and I consider him to be one of the not-quite top tier of Korean Terrans who, as far as I'm concerned, might just as well not have names or faces. Yes, he did well today, and deservedly won a code S spot, but we who feel this way should be allowed to feel disappointed without being accused of belittling his skill. While head-to-head as a tiebreaker is conventient and efficient, I feel it's an open question whether or not it's a good one, statistically speaking. You are allowed to feel disappointed, but no one cares about your feelings. Just because these people mean nothing to you (a random observer watching from Switzerland who is too lazy to learn about the Korean scene) doesn't mean you're justified in feeling anything. The guy who got first played better than everyone else in the group, and he deserves to advance. By all accounts he was an underdog as well; let him enjoy his success. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:00 CosmicSpiral wrote: You are allowed to feel disappointed, but no one cares about your feelings. Just because these people mean nothing to you (a random observer watching from Switzerland who is too lazy to learn about the Korean scene) doesn't mean you're justified in feeling anything. The guy who got first played better than everyone else in the group, and he deserves to advance. I know a lot about the players and the scene in SC2. I can list off dozens of names, maybe even hundreds. But Virus has no personality to me - he just seems like a mediocre faceless Korean Terran, not near the top of the heap but not bad enough to become infamous like TheBest (although apparently TheBest is really solid now). | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On March 16 2012 00:06 Sqq wrote: No HuK in Code S ? So, the only foreigner is Naniwa ? yes, naniwa is the foreigner hope. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44328 Posts
It's unfortunate his track record isn't that great in the GSL, although he's been working his ass off in Korea  I'll still be rooting for him. | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:10 SeaSwift wrote: I know a lot about the players and the scene in SC2. I can list off dozens of names, maybe even hundreds. But Virus has no personality to me - he just seems like a mediocre faceless Korean Terran, not near the top of the heap but not bad enough to become infamous like TheBest (although apparently TheBest is really solid now). Personality in the SC2 community is relative. Most of it is just a combination of exposure and community projection. I find his reaction pig-headed. Nevermind the fact that most people don't have a personal connection to Virus because he doesn't have a "story"; if this is the case then you really wouldn't care whether he wins or not. But to feel disappointed because he won the group, say that your disappointment has nothing to do with his skill level, then do a badly veiled criticism of his skill level? Any normal person would call you out on that hypocrisy. | ||
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Tarotis
Germany1931 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:10 SeaSwift wrote: I know a lot about the players and the scene in SC2. I can list off dozens of names, maybe even hundreds. But Virus has no personality to me - he just seems like a mediocre faceless Korean Terran, not near the top of the heap but not bad enough to become infamous like TheBest (although apparently TheBest is really solid now). I feel exactly like you do SeaSwift, you are not alone! By the way, am I the only one to be offended by GomTV not changing the schedule? In my opinion they should have switched the last 2 games. In this case, fOrGG was already done with hsi group. What if he would have played a good friend/brother or something similiar? Don't you think that knowing he is through affects his mental state and his play a lot? While I do accept that HuK is out, things like this shouldn't happen in the future because of it's potential abuse. Just switch the game and everything is fine | ||
ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:28 CosmicSpiral wrote: Personality in the SC2 community is relative. Most of it is just a combination of exposure and community projection. I find his reaction pig-headed. Nevermind the fact that most people don't have a personal connection to Virus because he doesn't have a "story"; if this is the case then you really wouldn't care whether he wins or not. But to feel disappointed because he won the group, say that your disappointment has nothing to do with his skill level, then do a badly veiled criticism of his skill level? Any normal person would call you out on that hypocrisy. Oh, absolutely. I don't know what theBB was on about there. I was just calling you out on telling him off for being "too lazy to learn about the Korean scene". | ||
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