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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 15 2012 15:08 GMT
#2361
Virus showed some pretty strong play today, really don't see why everyone is disgusted that he's advancing. His mech is obviously not perfect but was looking quite strong. There are 32 players in Code S, they can't all be DRG.
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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
March 15 2012 15:08 GMT
#2362
On March 16 2012 00:06 Love and Justice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 23:59 blamekilly wrote:
In the sea of Korean Terrans, Virus is a joke. He's a boring, non-creative, middle of the road player.. He's just not likeable.


Used to think the same way about Alive 5 months ago and now look at him. Who knowns what Virus will do in Code S maybe could be his break out season.


To be fair I still think the same about aLive :D
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shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
March 15 2012 15:10 GMT
#2363
virus' only crime is being just another standard lower code s terran. which is not a crime at all really.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 15 2012 15:14 GMT
#2364
People complaining about GSL Code A qualifiers... should go back to Broodwar and check out MSL / OSL qualifiers... that shit was insane.
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Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
March 15 2012 15:14 GMT
#2365
On March 15 2012 23:48 0ne wrote:
I don't know if Huk deserved the seed or not, in my opinion seeds are just wrong in general.

There're a lot of great korean players who only have GSL as a source of income and their progaming carreers depend on being able to mantain a spot in code S/A . Most of the foreigners who are being seeded are in a pretty stable economic situation and they have the support from their teams to compete in any other tournament.

While being stuck in the qualifiers is probably not going to be a big deal for players like Huk or Naniwa,and if they're good enough they are going to qualify eventually, if a korean player with no source of income is stuck for 3 or 4 season it can have a really big impact on his careers and force them to quit progaming.


GOM TV made the point that the foreign seeds are similar to the regional grouping that lets Korea participate in the World Cup just by beating other Asian teams, without proving its worth over more talented teams from Europe and South America.
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Takeodesu
Profile Joined November 2009
United States21 Posts
March 15 2012 15:16 GMT
#2366
On March 16 2012 00:06 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 23:43 Takeodesu wrote:
On March 15 2012 23:37 Bagi wrote:
On March 15 2012 23:35 Takeodesu wrote:
On March 15 2012 23:31 synaptik wrote:
Very glad that huk didn't make code s today. These affirmative action seeds are insulting to Korean players even if it's good for business. Hopefully huk will be out of code a first round and have to work his way through the qualifiers like jinro. My man jinro....now that's some moral fibre right there.

I dont see how HuK didn't deserve the seed based on recent results (mainly MLG Winter where I do admit he had mostly PvP). If you could elaborate and maybe give some examples of who would have been more deserving that would be great

I dunno, the guys who grinded through code A qualifiers and then did well in code A seem pretty deserving to me.

I'm not really all that clear on the Code A qualifier format ^^;; but I thought it was like a randomly generated group of players that play out like 6 or so rounds. I don't really see how its much different then giving a seed to a runner up of a double elim tournament like MLG that has top tier Koreans and foreigners in it.

Code A qualifiers are absolutely brutal. 1 wrong match and you are done for 3months, no retry or anything.
Combine that with the fact that there are constantly new Korean stars popping up and waiting for a shot in the GSL.
Not once since the code A/S split has any foreigner qualified for it.

I suppose so but very few foreigners are of the caliber to make it through the qualifiers. Even then I believe there are other ways to get into Code A though weekly tournaments and such. Also I'm not sure how you would justify picking which player who "grinded through the Code A qualifier and had a good run through code A" all the players who had good runs are already in Code S or up and downs as you only need to make it pass the first round of Code A to make it to Up and downs. HuK's been though the Code A qualifier + took second in a tough tournament. I just don't how he didn't deserve it or at least was one of the players that deserved it :\
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
March 15 2012 15:23 GMT
#2367
Don't understand why so many people are shitting on virus. Sure he has all-ined quite a fair bit in the past but the people who are shitting oh him probably cheer for foreign players like dimaga, whitera among many others. IMO, if virus played them, he probably have a winning record over 7 games or something.

You just don't get into so many code S seasons without at least being a consistent solid player.

He just suffers from a lack of exposure. If he joined more tournaments, he could have showed even more great macro games.
He played great macro games today as well, out manoeuvring fOrGG in a TvT and doing some pretty sweet banshee harass on Huk. He certainly deserves his code S spot.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
March 15 2012 15:24 GMT
#2368
I'm more disappointed that after 2 days of P/Z now we have 4 terrans qualify in a row. Code S was starting to look evened up at bit 10 / 10 / 6 P, T, Z respectively. If only we could find a few more zergs for the future but now it's 10 / 14 / 6... I just hope the zergs last out like DRG did so we don't have all T & P in the late rounds
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
March 15 2012 15:25 GMT
#2369
On March 15 2012 23:26 Maghetti wrote:
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아찝찝하다

Translation?

Means something along the lines of him feeling bothered. Basically he's unsatisfied cause he lost the final game and HuK couldn't make it
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
March 15 2012 15:27 GMT
#2370
On March 16 2012 00:14 Type|NarutO wrote:
People complaining about GSL Code A qualifiers... should go back to Broodwar and check out MSL / OSL qualifiers... that shit was insane.

and by insane you mean, you had to be at least borderline S class to have a shot

yea i can't even imagine how rough those must've been
hell courage was probably harder than code A qualifiers (or at least equal)
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 15 2012 15:27 GMT
#2371
On March 16 2012 00:24 Devise wrote:
I'm more disappointed that after 2 days of P/Z now we have 4 terrans qualify in a row. Code S was starting to look evened up at bit 10 / 10 / 6 P, T, Z respectively. If only we could find a few more zergs for the future but now it's 10 / 14 / 6... I just hope the zergs last out like DRG did so we don't have all T & P in the late rounds


Just like not every unit has to be playable all the time neither has Code S to be an distribution between the races. Have you ever even thought about the possibility that there are more good players in Korea with Terran and left imbalance aside? There are a lot of Protoss and Zerg rising that did show its possible to beat Terrans...

In Broodwar you had seasons dominated by Zerg, by Protoss and then by Terran. Obviously in Broodwar is was a bit more map - dependant but still. Why does it always have to be evened up with races?

10 / 14 / 6 P T Z isn't too bad either.
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Love and Justice
Profile Joined August 2011
United States87 Posts
March 15 2012 15:28 GMT
#2372
On March 16 2012 00:23 poorcloud wrote:
Don't understand why so many people are shitting on virus. Sure he has all-ined quite a fair bit in the past but the people who are shitting oh him probably cheer for foreign players like dimaga, whitera among many others. IMO, if virus played them, he probably have a winning record over 7 games or something.

You just don't get into so many code S seasons without at least being a consistent solid player.

He just suffers from a lack of exposure. If he joined more tournaments, he could have showed even more great macro games.
He played great macro games today as well, out manoeuvring fOrGG in a TvT and doing some pretty sweet banshee harass on Huk. He certainly deserves his code S spot.


People are not shitting on Virus cause of his all-ins it's cause he won and Huk isn't in Code S.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
March 15 2012 15:29 GMT
#2373
Poll: Who Will Advance?

fOrGG/Other (76)
 
32%

HuK/Other (72)
 
31%

Lucky/Other (54)
 
23%

Brown/Other (12)
 
5%

Virus/Other (11)
 
5%

Killer/Other (10)
 
4%

235 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Advance?

(Vote): Killer/Other
(Vote): Virus/Other
(Vote): fOrGG/Other
(Vote): Lucky/Other
(Vote): Brown/Other
(Vote): HuK/Other



Huh...... #1 most expected and #6 most expected advanced...... Did NOT see that coming
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poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
March 15 2012 15:30 GMT
#2374
On March 16 2012 00:24 Devise wrote:
I'm more disappointed that after 2 days of P/Z now we have 4 terrans qualify in a row. Code S was starting to look evened up at bit 10 / 10 / 6 P, T, Z respectively. If only we could find a few more zergs for the future but now it's 10 / 14 / 6... I just hope the zergs last out like DRG did so we don't have all T & P in the late rounds


Sure some zergs missed out but the zergs in code S all are top calibre players who can make it into the finals rounds if they play well.

Leenock/Nestea/DRG/Curious are all potential title contenders.

We can't blame having too many terrans too. The terrans all played really well and deserved their spot. Its certainly way better than GomTvT a while back.
Takeodesu
Profile Joined November 2009
United States21 Posts
March 15 2012 15:32 GMT
#2375
On March 16 2012 00:28 Love and Justice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2012 00:23 poorcloud wrote:
Don't understand why so many people are shitting on virus. Sure he has all-ined quite a fair bit in the past but the people who are shitting oh him probably cheer for foreign players like dimaga, whitera among many others. IMO, if virus played them, he probably have a winning record over 7 games or something.

You just don't get into so many code S seasons without at least being a consistent solid player.

He just suffers from a lack of exposure. If he joined more tournaments, he could have showed even more great macro games.
He played great macro games today as well, out manoeuvring fOrGG in a TvT and doing some pretty sweet banshee harass on Huk. He certainly deserves his code S spot.


People are not shitting on Virus cause of his all-ins it's cause he won and Huk isn't in Code S.


I think that's what hes saying just with some reasons on why Virus is a good player O.o
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Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
March 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#2376
BBoongBBoongPrime, MaruPrime, oGsTheSTC & perhaps CreatorPrime anyone?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 15 2012 15:42 GMT
#2377
Grats to Fin and Virus. Too bad for Huk. So close
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 15 2012 15:51 GMT
#2378
Alright ! Fin Code S , round 2 !
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
March 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2379
On March 15 2012 23:33 Probasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2012 23:31 synaptik wrote:
Very glad that huk didn't make code s today. These affirmative action seeds are insulting to Korean players even if it's good for business. Hopefully huk will be out of code a first round and have to work his way through the qualifiers like jinro. My man jinro....now that's some moral fibre right there.



Yeah I guess all those seasons of him getting to code S and getting deep into the tournament is affirmative action.

And Polt should get kicked out of Code S too cause fuck em he doesn't deserve it either right?



the furthest huk has ever made it was ro16..once..where he went 0-2..and he feel to the up/downs every season he was in code S.
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clwzim
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil65 Posts
March 15 2012 15:53 GMT
#2380
i still dont understand why 3 ppl are 3-2 and there was no tiebreak?
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