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ScareCrow`
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada88 Posts
February 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#2101
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o
icecreamlolz
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
February 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#2102
cant wait to see haebyungkingprime tomorrow
mcbosstossgsl2012season1<3
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
February 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#2103
ganzi whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#2104
On February 08 2012 20:33 Fishgle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:24 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:23 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

JJakji won the first game giving him the advantage clearly.


He had the Dazzle-medivac on his side. Damn that shallow grave


Medivacs are more like nature's attendance than dazzle's heal. More over time than instant also they don't kill everything at the same time

oh thanks for the idea
ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL


Stalkers are anti mages!

Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ


Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs?


Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do


Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.>


Ravens are Gems, obviously.

Ravens are Mugs actually
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#2105
On February 08 2012 20:31 Seeker wrote:
Poll: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

No (16)
 
52%

Yes (10)
 
32%

If you have time (5)
 
16%

31 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Match Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time




People can't really vote yes on this can they?

Ganzi going Mech on a map where his team mate used bio to beat the best player in the trying mech.

Jjakji being miles ahead then giving Ganzi a great base trade where he has enough tanks to one shot all of Jjakji's stuff if sieged and air superiority incase of floating building nonsense.

Ganzi deciding he doesn't actually want to win the game by unsiegeing every tank.

I mean, yes the game was long and things blew up but... that hurts my brain.
@followMVT
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2106
On February 08 2012 20:35 ScareCrow` wrote:
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o

to appear not to be barcraft unfriendly lol. while shutting them down in Korea.... idk
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2107
On February 08 2012 20:35 Iamyournoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:24 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:23 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

JJakji won the first game giving him the advantage clearly.


He had the Dazzle-medivac on his side. Damn that shallow grave


Medivacs are more like nature's attendance than dazzle's heal. More over time than instant also they don't kill everything at the same time

oh thanks for the idea
ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL


Stalkers are anti mages!

Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ


Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs?


Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do


Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.>


Force Staff is core on some heroes on some builds, such as Windrunner. Many go for Linken's on Weaver.

I'd say Ravens are like Dagon or something, maybe??


No.....wait....guys I got it

The Raven is a Mjollnir
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2108
On February 08 2012 20:35 ScareCrow` wrote:
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o

Didn't they just shut them down in Seoul so people come to the studio instead of going to barcrafts?
Iamyournoob
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany595 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2109
On February 08 2012 20:33 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:33 Iamyournoob wrote:
On February 08 2012 07:26 MrCon wrote:
On February 08 2012 07:20 Drazerk wrote:
Ganzi to take the group easily!

Ganzi > MC
Jjakji > Parting
Ganzi > Jjakji
Mark my words, they are wise.


Well, your words may have been wise, but they turned out to be one thing in particular: Completely wrong.



Trust me when we say we intentionally did this to curse him


Ah, damn voodoo-conspiracists!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2110
On February 08 2012 20:35 ScareCrow` wrote:
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o


Are we actually sure that that was a barcraft in the first place? For all we know it was blizzcon or something z_z
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2111
On February 08 2012 20:35 Iamyournoob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:24 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:23 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

JJakji won the first game giving him the advantage clearly.


He had the Dazzle-medivac on his side. Damn that shallow grave


Medivacs are more like nature's attendance than dazzle's heal. More over time than instant also they don't kill everything at the same time

oh thanks for the idea
ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL


Stalkers are anti mages!

Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ


Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs?


Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do


Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.>


Force Staff is core on some heroes on some builds, such as Windrunner. Many go for Linken's on Weaver.

I'd say Ravens are like Dagon or something, maybe??


Dagon is more like a hellion. good at first but once upgraded its epic.
Nocteo
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium799 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2112
What's the song playing right now?
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2113
On February 08 2012 20:35 ScareCrow` wrote:
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o

I guess it is kind of like blackouts in professional sports? If the stadium isn't getting enough ticket sales, the game is blacked out for the surrounding area
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
February 08 2012 11:36 GMT
#2114
On February 08 2012 20:35 ScareCrow` wrote:
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o


they are shutting down in korea ?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
February 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#2115
On February 08 2012 20:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:35 Iamyournoob wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:24 Hassybaby wrote:
[quote]

He had the Dazzle-medivac on his side. Damn that shallow grave


Medivacs are more like nature's attendance than dazzle's heal. More over time than instant also they don't kill everything at the same time

oh thanks for the idea
ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL


Stalkers are anti mages!

Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ


Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs?


Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do


Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.>


Force Staff is core on some heroes on some builds, such as Windrunner. Many go for Linken's on Weaver.

I'd say Ravens are like Dagon or something, maybe??


No.....wait....guys I got it

The Raven is a Mjollnir


lol perfect!
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 11:40:35
February 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#2116
On February 08 2012 20:34 ChaosTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:32 Heavenly wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:29 ChaosTerran wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:25 WigglingSquid wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:21 ChaosTerran wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:12 WigglingSquid wrote:
Poor GanZi. Just dying to every small early or mid-game timing in this group...

On February 08 2012 20:12 mvtaylor wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:09 WigglingSquid wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:02 Xarles wrote:
On February 08 2012 19:45 Mr_Wo_Ot wrote:
[quote]

Remember the people who are responding to you are the 2% of the people reading and the other 98% enjoy reading your posts. So please dont let the haters get to you! Morrow hwaiting!


Agreed. Not to mention that he gives proper reasoning towards his opinions as opposed to someone like IdrA.
I'll take that over an attention seeking no-name whiner any day.

The problem is that pros play their game twelve hours a day, but communicate very little about it with people who are not on their par. They walk in a forum, scribble two sentences without any reasoning or explanation whatsoever and complain when users disrespect their opinion, expecting everyone to merely bow to their experience out of sheer faith.
I respect their opinion, and I agree that the TL forums can be a dangerous place for their peace of mind, but even if they don't feel like taking their time to explain they could avoid bashing just by being more subtle with their balance whine. (Nothing exotic. Just add "in the current metagame" to every complaint and no one will be able to tell it off as easily.)


I think MorroW very obviously put forward his case as to why a build shouldn't allow you to get ahead both economically and in army.

Yes, but he did so after his first post; anyway, I was not talking about MorroW specifically, but of the pros' general attitude.
I will take their opinion as almost granted in most cases, but if they go to the length of being arrogant I will be much less adamant about defending them.


No he didn't. What the hell man. he explained perfectly well why this strat is imabalanced. Just because you can't grasp this simple concept doesn't mean that he didn't explain it, it just means that you simply don't understand what he's talking about. which is a problem on your end not his. If you don't understand the game, then don't discuss it. sick of noobs complaining about people who "dont explain it well enough" this isn't pre-school dude, if you dont understand it you simply dont know enough about SC2 or RTS games in general.

I am not an idiot. I might have missed his true first post, or you might have. Please refrain from jumping on the offense before considering other options.

And here it is. You are quite wrong, because this does not explain absolutely anything:

just look at this, toss takes 3base and can just go and kill terran who sits defensive on 2base and gets bunkers

if you dont see the problem in this and why its abusive and obviously too strong i dont know what to say

you talk about mc doing this best in the world and thats why it only works for him.
well in reality most tosses play like this, vs zerg and terran and most tosses are very successful. thats why they are doing this. and no its not hard to do, its pretty easy in fact to execute.
anyone who understands rts and sc2 on a deep level would agree with me, no evidence is needed to "prove" that this is not that hard to do that only MC in the world can be successful with it


Yes, it does? You can take 3 base get an economic advantage and kill the terran at the same time without being "all-in" even if he has bunkers up pretty much is imbalanced. Just like Morrow said. How can you possibly argue that this is balanced? this goes against the very nature of rts games.


Terran can do the exact same thing to protoss and zerg lmao. Reactor hellion into third base gives terran a third base before zerg, and quick third command center is also becoming very popular for terrans versus protoss. There was a game, maybe with Puzzle, where super quick third CC held off a four gate.


Hellion expand isn't a kill-move though?! And what TvP build lets you push off 2 base while taking an early third with the potential to kill the protoss? I would love to see that build.

The concepts are completely different. The terran build in TvZ is a pressure build, not a kill-move and I really don't know what the mysterious TvP build is you are talking about.


The mysterious TvP build where you make a quick third command center? Thought that was fairly obvious. Then make many barracks behind it and attack with them (ForGG v MC). You don't get instant reinforcements but you get the fact that marine/marauder slaughters unupgraded gateway units. Jjaki invested a huge amount into teching to medivacs, ended up getting a whole ONE, and into double engi bay and +1 attack which didn't finish. That's a bit more of an investment than a nexus. Would anyone cry if terran ended up hitting a timing with mass barracks units while protoss was teching up to colossi/storm and going for double forge upgrades? Mules would make his econ even stronger than a 2 base teching protoss in that case.

Hellion expand can kill a zerg even with a quick third, happens time to time. How about the period of time where terrans didn't go the fast third CC, massed hellions, and just threw them at zerg and slaughtered everything? And in the first game Parting didn't pull a kill move off and in fact came very close to losing to a two base timing push from Jjaki who probably hasn't even experimented heavily with the best timing to hit Parting.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#2117
On February 08 2012 20:33 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:33 Iamyournoob wrote:
On February 08 2012 07:26 MrCon wrote:
On February 08 2012 07:20 Drazerk wrote:
Ganzi to take the group easily!

Ganzi > MC
Jjakji > Parting
Ganzi > Jjakji
Mark my words, they are wise.


Well, your words may have been wise, but they turned out to be one thing in particular: Completely wrong.



Trust me when we say we intentionally did this to curse him


dat metagame
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
icecreamlolz
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
February 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#2118
i still have no idea how this cheesy song right now is called. lyrics are so generic that you cant google them. anyone?
mcbosstossgsl2012season1<3
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
February 08 2012 11:37 GMT
#2119
On February 08 2012 20:36 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:35 ScareCrow` wrote:
I am really confused why GOM advertises barcrafts and universal support for watching their games everywhere while they're also shutting them down in Korea. o_o

to appear not to be barcraft unfriendly lol. while shutting them down in Korea.... idk


Probably shut it down in Korea to have more people coming to the studio
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
February 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#2120
On February 08 2012 20:36 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 20:35 Iamyournoob wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:32 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:31 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:30 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:29 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:27 zhurai wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:26 Drazerk wrote:
On February 08 2012 20:24 Hassybaby wrote:
[quote]

He had the Dazzle-medivac on his side. Damn that shallow grave


Medivacs are more like nature's attendance than dazzle's heal. More over time than instant also they don't kill everything at the same time

oh thanks for the idea
ulti = medivac heal, maxed hp to you and other heroes around you... or drop/blink oO LOL


Stalkers are anti mages!

Hahaha except they are ranged, and antimage is melee ㄱㄱ


Queen of pain or do they just buy force staffs?


Force staves are the Ravens of Dota. No one buys them, butt hey are heroes if they do


Ravens are rapiers or Linkens >.>


Force Staff is core on some heroes on some builds, such as Windrunner. Many go for Linken's on Weaver.

I'd say Ravens are like Dagon or something, maybe??


No.....wait....guys I got it

The Raven is a Mjollnir


Raven is Ethereal Blade?
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