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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:54 Jibba wrote: It's short term publicity. If they stand up for themselves and enact some discipline, they I might be more inclined to keep watching. Why would you stop watching? They had great casters and great production, and just because 1 player decided to give up after game 1 does not mean you have to stop enjoying the show. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:53 Wroshe wrote: That should absolutely happen. The problem then becomes what is a thrown game? * Naniwa Proberushing? Definatly. * IdrA 6Pooling on Dual Sight? Definatly. * IdrA 6Pooling on Crossfire? Possibly. * 4Gating in PvP on a map with a Ramp? * Not 4Gating on Tal'Darim in PvP? As you can see the slope is slippery and where do you draw the line? umm it's really not that complicated. i'm sure idra will tell you he threw the game. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:53 BlindSight754 wrote: Idra didn't GG IN ANY OF THE GAMES! Anyone talking about that part as well? the games ended too fast, idra prefers long macro ggs | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:55 bennyaus wrote: 6pool against a competent GSL level Terran (maybe even one of the best in Code S), is not a cheese. It is throwing the game. Comparing 2 fact reactor hellion after expanding compared to 6 pool shows how much some people understand the game. Yes 2fact reactor hellion is probably all-in on doing econ damage, but it isn't a cheese. mma would be hurt by the first part. | ||
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iRon aka bananajuice
Germany124 Posts
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:55 pt wrote: just to be clear, you're talking shit and not actually trying to prove me wrong? If your not trolling Alive was actually trying to win, and using strategies he thought would win, people dont disrespect that because thats how this game is played | ||
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Arcanne
United States1519 Posts
ohh shit bm sarcasm | ||
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
6 pool twice in a row(when the player holds off a 6 pool when in a bad position) is pretty good... | ||
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pt
United States813 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:55 bennyaus wrote: 6pool against a competent GSL level Terran (maybe even one of the best in Code S), is not a cheese. It is throwing the game. Comparing 2 fact reactor hellion after expanding compared to 6 pool shows how much some people understand the game. Yes 2fact reactor hellion is probably all-in on doing econ damage, but it isn't a cheese. people still 4 gate against zergs in master league | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:55 pt wrote: just to be clear, you're talking shit and not actually trying to prove me wrong? Cheese's a good strat vs Idra because he can't defend vs Cheese so it's almost a freewin 6pool is a bad play vs Alive because he knows he's the better player so he's not going to expose himself to it and he probably felt like Idra was fuming enough to have that as a possibility so there's no way he'd try something silly like 15cc as he's got better chances with 1base play Logic 101 | ||
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
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Rad
United States935 Posts
With that said, if he wants to 6 pool every game, that's fine with me. I think it reflects poorly on him though and lowers his chances of getting invited to other competitions (and I would agree with any organization that stopped inviting him because of things like this). EG might enjoy the extra publicity idra gets from being idra, but that all comes down to the community. Don't like idra's actions? Don't support him. Like them? Keep supporting him. That's what really matters in the end. If enough people like this kind of thing and they see that, then expect more of it. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
 I really feel for all the players that woke up/stayed up late for this match. Certainly his fans, its always a beating when your idol does stupid things. You gotta defend him against the world and thats always shittier than cheering for his results | ||
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Tivu
United States244 Posts
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VokeLP
Canada16 Posts
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:54 Megabuster123 wrote: Can someone explain to me how Idra did anything to warrant any type of punishment at all? NASL organised a showmatch, pay him $100, Casters and production crew invested time and effort into it, fans stayed up late to watch it, IdrA said "fuck you" to everyone and didn't take it seriously. It's just selfish and disrespectful. Don't agree to play in a showmatch if you aren't planning on putting any effort into it. | ||
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corpsepose
1678 Posts
On February 13 2012 12:59 Fionn wrote: Alive 4 Idra 0 Not even I can jinx Alive enough for him to drop a game. words cant describe how impressed i am | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:56 JoeSchmoe wrote: umm it's really not that complicated. i'm sure idra will tell you he threw the game. This is such a terrible mindset. No strategy no matter how stupid should be met with punishment for the players. Unless Idra is in a match fixing scandal, he or anyone else should be able to do whatever the fuck they want in a game. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:56 Bagration wrote: NASL isn't part of my normal watching rotation (nor is SC2 anymore, quite frankly.) IdrA's dropout doesn't take away from NASL in my eyes, but if they react to it I'd gain more respect for them and would be more inclined to watch.Why would you stop watching? They had great casters and great production, and just because 1 player decided to give up after game 1 does not mean you have to stop enjoying the show. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On February 13 2012 13:55 JWD wrote: all contracts are rife with ambiguous terms. you could pre-arrange that a panel of judges could sit to analyze the replays or just leave it up to the tournament admins. even if the rule was extremely extremely sparingly enforced it would help prevent stuff like what just happened. Things like this just come down to common sense. Reminds of the people who said naniwa's probe rush was a legit strat. | ||
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