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On January 23 2012 11:55 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Tactical question: shouldn't Ret have been focus firing the Marines with the Spines, since the Marines are the dps?
technically yes but its harder than it sounds
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why doesn't quantic get rid of its lesser players? Do they even play full time?
This is painful to watch
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On January 23 2012 11:51 nath wrote: proxy 2 rax > ret
Hmmm?
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GG, good win by Liquid there!
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On January 23 2012 11:51 nath wrote: proxy 2 rax > ret
You were saying?
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i thought for sure that ret would die once he changed the path for his scouting overlord...
Great defence, and a really clutch baneling timing for the follow up push.
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Grats to Liquid on the win.
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On January 23 2012 11:56 ratzp0li wrote:
why doesn't quantic get rid of its lesser players? Do they even play full time?
This is painful to watch
Because theognis is really good. The only "lesser player" they have is flo.
Ret so good!
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On January 23 2012 11:56 ratzp0li wrote:
why doesn't quantic get rid of its lesser players? Do they even play full time?
This is painful to watch
Yes it is :\ lol...was really painful...all the matches were one sided :\ except maybe the last game...was close due to missteps
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On January 23 2012 11:58 GhandiEAGLE wrote:You were saying?
already posted last pagelook i can take it back but honestly theognis had a win
the 3 seconds focusing hatch after killing everything else was a waste
then not ffing banelings well and instead walking into them. yeah...
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On January 23 2012 11:55 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Tactical question: shouldn't Ret have been focus firing the Marines with the Spines, since the Marines are the dps?
thought he did, focus them. Was a big mistake to engage the spines though, could have force his way into the main. But i liked the game, no one dared or wanted to tech really. <3 marines vs speedless lings.
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Well, that was quite a game.
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ddayum sick portrait of Sheth
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On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:Liquid 3-1  Zenio > ShuffleZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio.  LiquidHerO > AghOnce again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO. TLO < SaSeI think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO. Ret >  theognisRet is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him. If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP.
Dude, talk about spot on lol
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On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:Liquid 3-1 Zenio > ShuffleZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio. LiquidHerO > AghOnce again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO. TLO < SaSeI think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO. Ret > theognisRet is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him. If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP. Dude, talk about spot on lol
Did anyone actually expect different? :p
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On January 23 2012 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:Liquid 3-1 Zenio > ShuffleZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio. LiquidHerO > AghOnce again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO. TLO < SaSeI think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO. Ret > theognisRet is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him. If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP. Dude, talk about spot on lol Did anyone actually expect different? :p
nope, sase is the only really good player out of all of those that can actually beat liquid players consistently.
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On January 23 2012 12:13 ratzp0li wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:Liquid 3-1 Zenio > ShuffleZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio. LiquidHerO > AghOnce again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO. TLO < SaSeI think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO. Ret > theognisRet is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him. If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP. Dude, talk about spot on lol Did anyone actually expect different? :p nope, sase is the only really good player out of all of those that can actually beat liquid players consistently.
Makes you wonder why they didnt use Naniwa...
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On January 23 2012 13:14 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 12:13 ratzp0li wrote:On January 23 2012 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:Liquid 3-1 Zenio > ShuffleZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio. LiquidHerO > AghOnce again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO. TLO < SaSeI think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO. Ret > theognisRet is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him. If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP. Dude, talk about spot on lol Did anyone actually expect different? :p nope, sase is the only really good player out of all of those that can actually beat liquid players consistently. Makes you wonder why they didnt use Naniwa...
I'm guessing he was tired/just didn't feel like it after losing at IEM
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