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mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
January 23 2012 02:56 GMT
#101
On January 23 2012 11:55 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Tactical question: shouldn't Ret have been focus firing the Marines with the Spines, since the Marines are the dps?


technically yes but its harder than it sounds
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 02:56:49
January 23 2012 02:56 GMT
#102
why doesn't quantic get rid of its lesser players? Do they even play full time?

This is painful to watch
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
January 23 2012 02:57 GMT
#103
On January 23 2012 11:51 nath wrote:
proxy 2 rax > ret


Hmmm?
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
January 23 2012 02:57 GMT
#104
GG, good win by Liquid there!
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#105
On January 23 2012 11:51 nath wrote:
proxy 2 rax > ret


You were saying?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
January 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#106
i thought for sure that ret would die once he changed the path for his scouting overlord...
Great defence, and a really clutch baneling timing for the follow up push.
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
January 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#107
Grats to Liquid on the win.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#108
On January 23 2012 11:56 ratzp0li wrote:
why doesn't quantic get rid of its lesser players? Do they even play full time?

This is painful to watch


Because theognis is really good. The only "lesser player" they have is flo.

Ret so good!
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
January 23 2012 02:58 GMT
#109
On January 23 2012 11:56 ratzp0li wrote:
why doesn't quantic get rid of its lesser players? Do they even play full time?

This is painful to watch


Yes it is :\ lol...was really painful...all the matches were one sided :\ except maybe the last game...was close due to missteps
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
January 23 2012 03:00 GMT
#110
On January 23 2012 11:58 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 11:51 nath wrote:
proxy 2 rax > ret


You were saying?

already posted last page
look i can take it back but honestly theognis had a win

the 3 seconds focusing hatch after killing everything else was a waste

then not ffing banelings well and instead walking into them. yeah...
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 23 2012 03:00 GMT
#111
On January 23 2012 11:55 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Tactical question: shouldn't Ret have been focus firing the Marines with the Spines, since the Marines are the dps?



thought he did, focus them. Was a big mistake to engage the spines though, could have force his way into the main. But i liked the game, no one dared or wanted to tech really. <3 marines vs speedless lings.
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
January 23 2012 03:00 GMT
#112
haters gon' hate :D
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 23 2012 03:02 GMT
#113
Well, that was quite a game.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
January 23 2012 03:04 GMT
#114
ddayum sick portrait of Sheth
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
January 23 2012 03:05 GMT
#115
went as expected
TSM
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
January 23 2012 03:07 GMT
#116
On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:
Liquid 3-1

(Z)Zenio > (Z)Shuffle
ZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio.

(P)LiquidHerO > (P)Agh
Once again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO.

(Z)TLO < (P)SaSe
I think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO.

(Z)Ret > (T)theognis
Ret is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him.

If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP.


Dude, talk about spot on lol
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 23 2012 03:11 GMT
#117
On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:
Liquid 3-1

(Z)Zenio > (Z)Shuffle
ZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio.

(P)LiquidHerO > (P)Agh
Once again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO.

(Z)TLO < (P)SaSe
I think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO.

(Z)Ret > (T)theognis
Ret is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him.

If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP.


Dude, talk about spot on lol



Did anyone actually expect different? :p
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ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
January 23 2012 03:13 GMT
#118
On January 23 2012 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:
On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:
Liquid 3-1

(Z)Zenio > (Z)Shuffle
ZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio.

(P)LiquidHerO > (P)Agh
Once again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO.

(Z)TLO < (P)SaSe
I think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO.

(Z)Ret > (T)theognis
Ret is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him.

If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP.


Dude, talk about spot on lol



Did anyone actually expect different? :p

nope, sase is the only really good player out of all of those that can actually beat liquid players consistently.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
January 23 2012 04:14 GMT
#119
On January 23 2012 12:13 ratzp0li wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:
On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:
Liquid 3-1

(Z)Zenio > (Z)Shuffle
ZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio.

(P)LiquidHerO > (P)Agh
Once again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO.

(Z)TLO < (P)SaSe
I think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO.

(Z)Ret > (T)theognis
Ret is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him.

If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP.


Dude, talk about spot on lol



Did anyone actually expect different? :p

nope, sase is the only really good player out of all of those that can actually beat liquid players consistently.


Makes you wonder why they didnt use Naniwa...
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
January 23 2012 04:16 GMT
#120
On January 23 2012 13:14 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 12:13 ratzp0li wrote:
On January 23 2012 12:11 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 12:07 imPERSONater wrote:
On January 23 2012 03:45 The Final Boss wrote:
Liquid 3-1

(Z)Zenio > (Z)Shuffle
ZvZ is a pretty anybody-can-win sort of match-up, but not when one of those players is Zenio. He has some of the best ZvZ in the world and I don't see Shuffle standing much of a chance. That being said, since it is ZvZ Bo1 anything could happen, but let's be honest, it probably won't. I think Tal'Darim Altar is so big of a map that it's harder for cheeses to work, and I don't see how Shuffle can stand much of a chance against a S-Class ZvZer like Zenio.

(P)LiquidHerO > (P)Agh
Once again, even if PvP is a match-up that produces more build order wins than other match-ups, it is also highly reliant on the micro of the player. Agh is going to need to get lucky to beat HerO.

(Z)TLO < (P)SaSe
I think that from QxG's standpoint, it would have been best to get SaSe matched up against either Ret or one of the Koreans, because he's the one with the best shot, and then they might be able to win it 3-2 with an ace match. TLO is the weakest player that Liquid is sending out, but he's still pretty good. I don't think that with him switching races and SaSe being such a baller that he has a great chance, but TLO's wacky style might favor the Bo1 setting. Regardless, SaSe is a beast, and should be able to beat TLO.

(Z)Ret > (T)theognis
Ret is one of the best foreigners, but he certainly has his weak points. theognis's best chance will certainly be cheesing or dispatching Ret early game, but after Ret starts rolling I don't see theognis being able to stop him.

If it gets to the ace match (which is always a possibility with the Bo1 format) then I figure Zenio vs SaSe with Zenio winning it. I would assume that Liquid knows that QxG will use SaSe and rather then risking a PvP, Zenio (who just crushed NaNiwa at IEM) can beat SaSe in a ZvP.


Dude, talk about spot on lol



Did anyone actually expect different? :p

nope, sase is the only really good player out of all of those that can actually beat liquid players consistently.


Makes you wonder why they didnt use Naniwa...

I'm guessing he was tired/just didn't feel like it after losing at IEM
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