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Weiman
Netherlands91 Posts
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RoachCoach
Netherlands58 Posts
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VanCaspel
Netherlands250 Posts
@Weiman: PM is on the way | ||
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srsrazrsushi
Netherlands28 Posts
On February 27 2012 21:14 VanCaspel wrote: You're quite right: Shattered Temple, Antiga Shipyard and Metalopolis still have gold bases in the Blizzard pool. Hmm, do you think that would be grounds to expell them from the mappool? And should we replace them with other maps, or are five maps enough? I think it might be, and I still think that playing on non-blizzard maps creates lots of extra hassle... Your thoughts? Due to the recent MULE change I think the problem is less harsh than it was before. However, I still believe gold bases can turn games around that shouldn't have been turned around. That's why I would choose non gold based maps, there are plenty of them at the moment. Take a look at esl maps, gsl maps, and various other online leagues. However, not all of them are good and I would suggest that you take a careful look before you choose any. Your argument of an 'extra hassle' I don't agree with; what's the hassle in opening a custom game and download the map automatically which usually takes less than 5 seconds? Especially if the maps simply are better, I don't see the problem. But that's your decision : ). Depending on the format you choose (bo3, bo5 etc) you need at least a certain amount of maps, so I can't answer that. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
Anyways, I'll probably start a study next year at Radboud so I hope to participate then, I live like a 2 minute's bike drive from campus | ||
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sonkaliniz
United States178 Posts
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VanCaspel
Netherlands250 Posts
On February 27 2012 23:17 srsrazrsushi wrote: Due to the recent MULE change I think the problem is less harsh than it was before. However, I still believe gold bases can turn games around that shouldn't have been turned around. That's why I would choose non gold based maps, there are plenty of them at the moment. Take a look at esl maps, gsl maps, and various other online leagues. However, not all of them are good and I would suggest that you take a careful look before you choose any. Your argument of an 'extra hassle' I don't agree with; what's the hassle in opening a custom game and download the map automatically which usually takes less than 5 seconds? Especially if the maps simply are better, I don't see the problem. But that's your decision : ). Depending on the format you choose (bo3, bo5 etc) you need at least a certain amount of maps, so I can't answer that. You make a compelling argument Perhaps we'll take the Blizzard mappool as a starting point, and switch maps with gold bases for GSL-versions (for example). About the 'hassle' I was expecting: I was simply concerned that people would start playing on the wrong maps, not understanding how the different versions relate to each other. However, I guess that's explained easily enough....@Meovin- Students from Amsterdam can't participate in this edition, but are more than welcome to come to the finals. More importantly, however, if they feel like having a tournament too they should let me know if they'd be interested in helping with next year's national edition! | ||
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Gluon
Netherlands392 Posts
So I would just leave them in! | ||
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Risljaninasim
Netherlands228 Posts
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VanCaspel
Netherlands250 Posts
On February 28 2012 02:43 Risljaninasim wrote: Please make it a national tournament, that would be aweseome. That would indeed be awesome! But unfortunately it's really too late now to do that this year. The academic year pretty much ends at the start of June (after that students aren't usually around the campus much), so the tournament must start at the beginning of April at the latest. That said, it's too late now to start promotion in all other cities if we want to get a decent player pool. I think it's better to go national next year and start promotion and planning well in advance. | ||
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Argus92
Netherlands93 Posts
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VanCaspel
Netherlands250 Posts
Nice, this is really going to be a sweet thing | ||
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Gluon
Netherlands392 Posts
On February 28 2012 07:32 VanCaspel wrote: @Argus92: Good idea! We could do a separate 'team league' if universities want to compete against each other as teams! Nice, this is really going to be a sweet thing Yeah, seems enough interest to go national I'll be studying at the TUe next year, so I could do some work over there then! | ||
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kedarking
Netherlands98 Posts
How about you take all the blizzard maps (switch the ones with golds to MLG or GSL or w/ever) and then let people veto maps they don't want to play? | ||
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VanCaspel
Netherlands250 Posts
@kedarking: That's something to consider. Ok, lets say we take the Blizzard maps - that's 8. One of them (Tal'darim) will be the starting map, so that's 7 left (which is plenty). We could allow each of the players to veto one or two of the maps. I can see how that would be beneficial: if for some reason you are very bad at a map in a certain match-up you can avoid it. But what happens if you lose the first map and want to pick your map for the second game, but it has been vetoed! That would suck. Obviously the vetos would have to be declared before the start of the series, but still, couldn´t a veto mess up someones gameplan more than no veto could? I'm not sure! Edit - extra argument for allowing vetos: that would benefit players who don't play very often and haven't had the chance to familiarize themselves with all the maps. I'd hate to see players lose simply because they don't know the map. Our tournament isn't just for people who play all the time, so yeah: vetos might be a good idea. 2 vetos? Worst case (if no overlap) that still leaves 4 maps for a BO3, but in the semi-finals and finals (BO5) players will have only 1 veto. Sounds good? | ||
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Stuif
Netherlands6 Posts
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VanCaspel
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Zyte
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sonkaliniz
United States178 Posts
On February 28 2012 08:22 VanCaspel wrote: I'll definitely do it! In the near future I'll start a new topic in order to start preparing for the national edition. It's tempting to go national now, but I still don't think such a big last-minute change is wise. It would be better to go ahead as planned and learn as much as possible, so that the first national edition will be a smooth ride I think if you made it national right now your participant count would be doubled. Since everyone has free OV going to Nijmegen isn't a problem | ||
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Gluon
Netherlands392 Posts
So even while it is very tempting to comply with all of these enthousiastic requests, it'll be impossible to expand to a national basis this year. On the upside, it's only another half year before the next academic year starts | ||
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