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MythRazor
Profile Joined February 2012
Netherlands2 Posts
February 28 2012 13:04 GMT
#41
I think it is a really cool initiative! Since I'm not a student myself anymore, I can't participate in this tournament (sadly, because I love SCII and play often).
I do find casting interesting and fun to do though. Therefore I would like to get some more information about the kind of casters you seek. I'll send you a PM about that =).
Ret - Sheth - HayprO - Stephano - Destiny
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
February 28 2012 13:06 GMT
#42
If someone would organize a national college league, I think I could fix a team for Twente university
Good luck with your tournament though, I really hope you succeed.
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
February 28 2012 16:54 GMT
#43
@Razor: Thanks for the PM!

@Liveon: Hi there, I think we've met each other on Grubby's stream earlier Nice to know that Twente is battle-ready! Will you let me send you an e-mail once the preparations for the national edition get going and we need someone at Twente? Of course you can decide if and how you want to help once I contact you. If yes, please send me a PM with you e-mail address.

Right, but back to the mappool and veto's! I still think there's a problem with the veto's unfortunately. Because most of the games in our tournament will be played by individual appointment between the players, an unfair situation will arise every time a player announces his veto (or vetos) first. The second player could be in the lucky position that the first player already vetod the map(s) he wanted out most, and can now choose his second-worst map to exclude. A luxury that the first player didn't have.

Please note that it is impossible for the tournament administrators to mediate every encounter between two players and ask them about their vetos at the same time.

So: no vetos? Or do the benefits (less losses due to unfamiliarity as opposed to skill deficit) outway the costs?
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
February 28 2012 22:33 GMT
#44
We've decided to keep it simple for the mappool:

- Blizzard maps (all 8)
- Every first game on Tal'darim Altar LE
- Loser picks next map
- Map cannot be played twice
- No vetos.

Now to put it on the website!
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands392 Posts
February 29 2012 10:39 GMT
#45
Cool!
What happens when a new patch arrives during the tourney, and the Blizzard map pool changes?
Will we from that point on just go with the new maps?
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PoYo!
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands9 Posts
February 29 2012 11:44 GMT
#46
Niceeee good luck !
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
February 29 2012 12:22 GMT
#47
@bblack: I think the Map Pool changes with the Blizzard seasons, but when season seven will start is quite unpredictable. It could start next month, or it could start once our tournament is over. I propose to stick to this map pool, even if the blizzard maps change halfway through the tournament.

@PoYo!: Thanks! I've replied to your PM.
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 02 2012 12:16 GMT
#48
Major update: the national edition will most definitely happen! Check out the separate topic here and please contribute to the discussion.

This topic will now be dedicated to discussion of the Nijmegen edition of this year, I will update the topic start in the near future.

And for all those who would like to come to the finals of the NSSL: check the event on Facebook.
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Patjuh
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands20 Posts
March 02 2012 17:27 GMT
#49
Hey there,

Let me start that, as a student of the RU Nijmegen I am more than happy this initiative is going to happen! I just signed up so I'll see you there ^^

Map-pool imho should not only be the 8 blizzard maps, but should include maps like Bel'shir Winter, Daybreak and Metropolis as well. But it seems like it's already set so, it's ok either way.

Take care
Rock-solid, heart-touching.
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands392 Posts
March 02 2012 22:31 GMT
#50
Yeah it's all set, let's see how the participants do on the Blizzard maps
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 06 2012 09:08 GMT
#51
got an email from my tabletennis club about this :o
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands392 Posts
March 06 2012 09:52 GMT
#52
On March 06 2012 18:08 Grumbels wrote:
got an email from my tabletennis club about this :o

Haha good, we're infiltrating all of society!
hehehe
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VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 09 2012 11:20 GMT
#53
Hurrah! The NSSL is being subsidized by the Nijmegen University Foundation - securing funds like a boss!

We're also talking to several other parties for sponsoring, perhaps we'll even get some great hardware to give to the winners. I really hope to be able to give details about that next week.

Unfortunately the sign-ups have stagnated somewhat, but I still hope we'll get to a good 60 participants. If there's any students from the RU or HAN here who are still doubting: don't and sign up!
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
neek
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands51 Posts
March 09 2012 14:55 GMT
#54
i would definitely attend if it were a national competition. gl with the tournament
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 09 2012 16:44 GMT
#55
@neek: you might want to check out the thread about the DSCL
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 22:07:14
March 09 2012 21:50 GMT
#56
Start post updated! Hope it takes away some of the confusion between the NSSL and the DSCL. This topic is NSSL only!

Any stream experts in here? We want a damn near perfect stream for the finals. They'll be on the university campus (76Mbit upload - according to speedtest) so bandwidth should not be a problem. However, we're unsure about several other things. The most basic setup would be something like this:
- Two computers for the finalists
- Two computers for the casters
- They all join the same game.
- One of the casters runs XSplit and streams to Twitch.tv.
- Audio for both casters is recorded to the streaming PC for use on the stream.

So far so good. But then:
- Obviously we also want to project the show on a big screen on the stage. We can't just take a fifth PC and project the stream from Twitch.tv, because the delay between what the audience hears and sees would be too big. And we can't just duplicate the caster's screen, because then the audience would 'see behind the scenes' as he manages XSplit. Also, the beamer probably only has a 1024*768 resolution, which further complicates things. How to solve this?
- If we want to be able to add the occasional shot of the audience, the casters, or maybe even the players (who are sitting in a separate room), how would we get that on the stream / on the screen on stage? It would appear that we'll need at least a fifth PC + operator dedicated to directing the stream. But this PC can't simply also join the game and show the caster's view, because if you do that, the overlays that the caster adds don't show up (this might actually not be a problem, we'll just have the stream operator handle the overlays).

I know these questions may show a disturbing lack of experience. Please point me to 'streaming 101' where I may read and learn.
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
karn1
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 22:20:11
March 09 2012 22:19 GMT
#57
I think you could just have a dual-monitor setup for the caster who streams, which will allow him to manage x-split on a different monitor than where starcraft is played and overlays are shown.
This monitor should then be doubled to the beamer, I guess.

I think it would be nice to have a camera on the casters, but more camera's (for players and crowd) would be a lot to manage for one person who also casts.
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 09 2012 22:39 GMT
#58
Right, so a dedicated stream operator on a different PC would be nice. That would allow the caster to focus on casting and talking to the players in the lobby, and he wouldn't have to make sure that everything about the stream is ok all the time.
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Gluon
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands392 Posts
March 09 2012 22:44 GMT
#59
Yeah, that's what I thought, just get the streamer a dual screen set up
We need to make sure the graphics card in the pc's allows for that though!

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VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 22:53:09
March 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#60
We're getting 4 bad-ass gaming systems (from sponsors), maybe in stead of using two for the players and two for the casters, we could use one for the streamer and have the 'secondary' caster use one of our own (less bad-ass) PC's.
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
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