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Please try not to bash players, casters, countries, races, users, balance, apple pie, etc. in the Live Report threads. These threads are not meant for bashing.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:49:22
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#581
On January 19 2012 22:47 drop271 wrote:
How are people seriously blaming Naniwa? IEM has let him, and the fans down. If its not up to standard, why should he sabotage his play due to their failure?

Because nobody can control Bnet 0.2. It's not IEM's fault that Blizzard won't implement LAN and it is Nani's fault that he won't be proffesional enough to play for his fans despite his 'new leaf' he promised after he quit in AoL, just like he did now.
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:49:46
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#582
On January 19 2012 22:48 CEPEHDREI wrote:
just ban him from every tournament

Yeah, that would solve everything, right?!

Silence, you imbecile.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#583
On January 19 2012 22:48 Madest wrote:
If ESL forced players to play with lag: why haven't Strelok, Titan and White-ra complain about it?



Because they did not have balls to do it?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#584
On January 19 2012 22:45 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
give it a few minutes, then there will be another "HUGE NANI SCANDAL" thread with 100 pages on here... I can't understand Nani's decision this time, but even so, don't make such a huge deal about it, please

Making a thread will be easy and of course people are going to reply. It's sad.

Yeah, I know, but I think it's pretty straightforward this time around. IEM screwed up badly with their internet, and all players got affected. Nani, being as emotional as he is, took it hardest personally and decided to make an example by refusing to play under conditions inapropriate for his profession. I can respect and understand this gesture, even though I think it's quite clearly an overreaction.

That is all, now can we skip making a massive thread about it? :/
Ravomat
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany422 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#585
On January 19 2012 22:47 FaRess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:40 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:39 mTwTT1 wrote:
lag or not its kinda disrespectul to ff a tournament that u got a free invite to


Sorry, but inviting a "star" like Naniwa means nothing. He is doing your tournament a favor. Imagine if MMA just left because the conditions were bad, would you blame him?


the problem is guys like MMA knows what respect is, for a tournament, fans, viewers etc, you're example is sad.


Naniwa is a contender not an entertainer. Be happy that almost everyone will continue to play even under horrible conditions but don't blame Naniwa.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#586
--- Nuked ---
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#587
On January 19 2012 22:48 CEPEHDREI wrote:
just ban him from every tournament

ESL certainly should, he's done too much crap in their tournaments.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#588
Okay, well if they are being made to play with obvious lag, fair enough that he doesn't want to play.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#589
On January 19 2012 22:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:42 BlitzerSC wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:34 Zallkar wrote:
Naniwa has decided to forfeit the tournament after the first game due to technical issues. #IEM

Via @IntelIEM


I lost all the respect i had for that guy... what a whiny kid.


Yeah, how dare he request proper conditions to play his profession? Bring the torches!


Are you kidding me ?
Quantic payed his ticket to Kiev and IEM invited him, then he withdraw from a tournament because of " technical problems " ( which can be solved anyways... )

He is just an immature kid. Probably he left because he is pissed that he lost against Strelok.


He is mad cause he lost to Strelok in a matchup he shouldn't lose and now he would have to play with a handicap for the rest of the tournament. And probably White Ra and Strelok would qualify anyway even if he plays from 0-1.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#590
On January 19 2012 22:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:42 BlitzerSC wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:34 Zallkar wrote:
Naniwa has decided to forfeit the tournament after the first game due to technical issues. #IEM

Via @IntelIEM


I lost all the respect i had for that guy... what a whiny kid.


Yeah, how dare he request proper conditions to play his profession? Bring the torches!


Are you kidding me ?
Quantic payed his ticket to Kiev and IEM invited him, then he withdraw from a tournament because of " technical problems " ( which can be solved anyways... )

He is just an immature kid. Probably he left because he is pissed that he lost against Strelok.


You have very valid points there, good Sir! I would like to add that by coming to the tournament Naniwa basically denied someone else's chance to get in. I bet that someone is really happy to see Naniwa waste the whole thing like that. :p

Naniwa has some serious growing up to do.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#591
On January 19 2012 22:47 drop271 wrote:
How are people seriously blaming Naniwa? IEM has let him, and the fans down. If its not up to standard, why should he sabotage his play due to their failure?


It's called being a Professional. He's paid to play the game, not take his ball(Keyboard) and go home because things aren't going his way. He shouldn't be rewarded for child-like behavior.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#592
On January 19 2012 22:48 TheBB wrote:
So does Strelok get 2-0 now that White-Ra and TITAN also do?

Personally I think that SHOULD be what happens in these situations, but I have never seen a tournament actually do this when a team/player stopped participating in the middle of a group stage.
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laoji
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom382 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#593
On January 19 2012 22:43 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Good call by Naniwa, Usain Bolt wouldn't run without a track


hahaha, that one made me lol.

i'd like to know the exact statements made between the tourny and the players before blame gets thrown around
Affection is responsible for nine-tenths of whatever solid and durable happiness there is in our lives.- C. S. Lewis
Tuete
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany144 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#594
On January 19 2012 22:48 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:45 Celestialboy wrote:
Soccer/football players are not playing on iced fields.
Basketball players are not playing on slippery floors.
Even though conditions are the same for both sides. Why should Nani play ?

That's because it's dangerous and greatly increases injury risk?

Not the best comparison :p


Yeah and one missplaced Forcefield on your Ramp due to lag breaks your neck in Sc2.
So it works for me
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
January 19 2012 13:49 GMT
#595
On January 19 2012 22:34 Zallkar wrote:
Naniwa has decided to forfeit the tournament after the first game due to technical issues. #IEM

Via @IntelIEM

WTF naniwa??
you could at least have forfeited before losing to strelok or after advancing from group play, now you are unrightfully taking the win from strelok.
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#596
To be honest other players should leave the tournament, too, since the conditions are unacceptable. The Nani foamers will never get why but at least they bring a sort of entertainment to the threads.
"Just stay and play for the fans" When people wants their 'idol' to play in horrible conditions , they are not a real fan, they are selfish and care little about the player they pretend to be a fan of tbh.
TooL-
Profile Joined December 2011
England3 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#597
On January 19 2012 22:48 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:42 StarPolice wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:41 Kagge wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:39 mTwTT1 wrote:
lag or not its kinda disrespectul to ff a tournament that u got a free invite to


So you mean that tournaments have no blame in not managing to make a lag free environment. Lets not cut the grass for the football players next so they cant play their game and see what happends, this might be a smaller scale than big football tournaments but its still the same principle.



It's more like quitting the football game because it started raining. You can't control bnet .20.

this^


It's more like playing football with one leg because you had a limb cut off.
Kagge
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden59 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#598
On January 19 2012 22:48 namste wrote:
Lol Naniwa such a great man. I guess we won't see Naniwa at any IEM tournament ever again..



And hopefully we can get an actual tournament instead of this joke... Noone is sad Naniwa dont can come back because tournaments like this shouldnt exist.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#599
I have just lost the last bit of respect for Naniwa after this fiasco. I wonder why tournaments even invite him anymore...
...
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#600
IntelEM IntelExtremeMasters
Nani is back in the tournament area, checking another PC. He is not officially out of the event.

!!!! YAY !!!!
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