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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8524 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#601
On January 19 2012 22:47 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:44 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:42 BlitzerSC wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:34 Zallkar wrote:
Naniwa has decided to forfeit the tournament after the first game due to technical issues. #IEM

Via @IntelIEM


I lost all the respect i had for that guy... what a whiny kid.


Yeah, how dare he request proper conditions to play his profession? Bring the torches!


Are you kidding me ?
Quantic payed his ticket to Kiev and IEM invited him, then he withdraw from a tournament because of " technical problems " ( which can be solved anyways... )

He is just an immature kid. Probably he left because he is pissed that he lost against Strelok.


let´s see about that in a few hours, shall we.
Polox
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden115 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#602
On January 19 2012 22:48 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:46 Polox wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:45 Scarecrow wrote:
Still the 2 games he lost weren't due to lag.


Oh really?


Yes really, lagg doesn't affect a proxy rush.
Haven't most big tournaments lagged in the start by the way? I think so... Quitting everything after 1 match. I'm sure Quantic is happy they payed flight, hotel and everything. LoL


Are you for real? Lag doesn't just affect the game itself, but also the mental state of the player. Even if Strelok had the same lag, it doesn't mean he was equally affected. And Nani plays with a micro intensive style, which someone already stated. The tournament winner should be the one who plays the best, and not the one who can play with immense lag and still win.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:50:52
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#603
On January 19 2012 22:49 Ravomat wrote:
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On January 19 2012 22:47 FaRess wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:40 ceaRshaf wrote:
On January 19 2012 22:39 mTwTT1 wrote:
lag or not its kinda disrespectul to ff a tournament that u got a free invite to


Sorry, but inviting a "star" like Naniwa means nothing. He is doing your tournament a favor. Imagine if MMA just left because the conditions were bad, would you blame him?


the problem is guys like MMA knows what respect is, for a tournament, fans, viewers etc, you're example is sad.


Naniwa is a contender not an entertainer. Be happy that almost everyone will continue to play even under horrible conditions but don't blame Naniwa.

His team and their sponsors will absolutely blame naniwa even if you accept that line of reasoning

e: "Nani is back in the tournament area, checking another PC. He is not officially out of the event."
fAiryqt
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation138 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#604
Nani is back in the tournament area, checking another PC. He is not officially out of the event.

@IntelIEM
gezus
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#605
I feel bad for quantic, they just manage to sign Naniwa, and then he first make whole korean community mad at him+gets thrown out of gsl, then he goes to iem and tries to make sure never to get a spot in their tournaments again aswell?!?!? WTF
drop271
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand286 Posts
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#606
On January 19 2012 22:48 Madest wrote:
If ESL forced players to play with lag: why haven't Strelok, Titan and White-ra complain about it?


Because they didn't just get off a 20 hour flight to get there
marmuc
Profile Joined August 2011
110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:51:41
January 19 2012 13:50 GMT
#607
this guy will never change... he ruins every tournament he attends to.

ok I hope I'm wrong and he's gonna finish the tournament...

User was warned for this post
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#608
It is partly IEM fault.But you guys fail to see the big picture,IF we have LAN none of these shit would be happening.
If you want to blame someone, blame Blizzard for not implementing LAN into SC2.People wanted LAN since forever but Blizzard have not intention doing so.
Play your best
Mantraz
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 13:52:04
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#609
On January 19 2012 22:43 MavivaM wrote:

Is there a tournament he hasn't dissed somehow?

Well there is this, which is the mildest of the incidents i suppose.

The "joke tournament" at mlg.

And the Probe Rush in GSL.

It isn't so much that this is a big deal, i wouldn't want to play with lag either, but he knows what position he's in given his past stunts, why bring more fuel for the fire?<

Edit: Was he on quantic during blizzard cup? If not, this is also his first tournament for his new team ...
enliveeee
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#610
Nani is back in the tournament area, checking another PC. He is not officially out of the event.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#611
All the sporting analogies fail, this isn't a safety issue. It's just an annoyance that makes them play a bit worse. Pro's put up with it and do their best. Everyone's under the same conditions and they'll still be a winner. The issues will be worked out before the end of the tourney, nani should've just hung in there but got pissy cause he fucked up vs strelok.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#612
IntelEM IntelExtremeMasters
Nani is back in the tournament area, checking another PC. He is not officially out of the event.
1 minute ago

relax everyone

Hopefully this gets sorted.
Liquipedia
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#613
Naniwa please never play SC2 again. You're a disgrace.
Madest
Profile Joined June 2010
Ukraine179 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#614
On January 19 2012 22:49 andis35 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:48 Madest wrote:
If ESL forced players to play with lag: why haven't Strelok, Titan and White-ra complain about it?



Because they did not have balls to do it?


Right...
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#615
On January 19 2012 22:49 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:47 drop271 wrote:
How are people seriously blaming Naniwa? IEM has let him, and the fans down. If its not up to standard, why should he sabotage his play due to their failure?

Because nobody can control Bnet 0.2. It's not IEM's fault that Blizzard won't implement LAN

It is, if the tournaments told Blizz to add it THEY WOULD!
The curse is real
funkyfritter
Profile Joined May 2010
353 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#616
People are making too big of a deal out of this. If Naniwa feels the conditions are unplayable he has the right to forfiet. The only ones who should be upset over this are the sponsors that pay for Naniwa to give them exposure, but that's between them and him.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#617
On January 19 2012 22:50 marmuc wrote:
this guy will never change... he ruins every tournament he attends to.


That's taking it waaaay too far.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#618
On January 19 2012 22:49 Noam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 22:48 TheBB wrote:
So does Strelok get 2-0 now that White-Ra and TITAN also do?

Personally I think that SHOULD be what happens in these situations, but I have never seen a tournament actually do this when a team/player stopped participating in the middle of a group stage.

I guess we'll wait and see. I agree with you.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
laggikoN
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden213 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#619
Wow, okay i've stood by Naniwa in all the drama but this is just bad manner! Everybody there is probably experiencing the same problems and he just quits? Great way to say fuck you to all the fans (me included, im a huge nani fan). You don't do that! You just don't do that!!! I want to see naniwa play, how the hell am i supposed to be a fan of a player who just gives up when things doesn't go his way? We want to support you when things are hard, but you obv don't want to support your fans. -.-
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
January 19 2012 13:51 GMT
#620
the consequence of everyone yelling that football player have to play on wet fields as well could only be that STARCRAFT players would have to train with lag. are you serious?
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