EPTMLG Raleigh Day 1 RED Live Report Thread - Page 389
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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads: The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans: 1. Whining about stream 2. Bashing other games 3. Flaming other users 4. Bashing players 5. Complaining about imbalance. It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully. That being said, enjoy today's games! Time stamp: page 38, 6:23. | ||
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starbreaker10
United States62 Posts
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Kh0nsu
United Kingdom183 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:30 TT1 wrote: dont understand why theyd give a casting break to both tastosis + dayhusk at the same time, no one can watch 2 games at the same time.. now would be the perfect time to have 1 team casting 1 match while the other takes a break There is more then just that. Also they need both players to know not to start the game before the observers can join. The schedule is too unpredictable so they can't know if a series they cut to will ruin the schedule they already planned which is No1 priority. I'd be pissed if they cut to a TvT that lasted 50 minutes and I missed a match I stayed up all night to watch. The players need to be in seats that can't see the main screen and they need to triple check they can't hear the casters. It sucks but it is kind of unavoidable. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:34 TheKefka wrote: There are just never enough chairs are there  It wouldn't be MLG if there were enough chairs. Having a shortage of chairs is an integral part of the experience. | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:26 Mauldo wrote: Uhhh...are people legit saying it's bad to cheer for players from your country? Isn't it equivalent to cheering on the soccer team from your city (like Leeds people cheering for the Leeds soccer team) or people from Green Bay cheering on the Green Bay Packers in the NFL? The Detroit Lions lost 0-13 this last season in the NFL, and no one looked at the stadium full of fans from Detroit and said "Hey you xenophobic jackasses, cheer for the New England Patriots! They're the better team, they deserve your cheers!" I would say that yeah ;o. I am against cheering for your local team just because it is a local team. It is illogical. Two team players could trade spots and suddenly the same players would be cheered against? Thats stupid. The only reasonable method of deciding who to cheer for is on an individual level. With the koreans, they have the better games because they are harder workers, and have the better skills. I am fine with cheering for Huk for example because he is a foreigner AND a code S level player when playing his best. Cheering for haypro over someone like bomber just makes my brain explode however. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote: It wouldn't be MLG if there were enough chairs. Having a shortage of chairs is an integral part of the experience. Eventually the day will come when they actually need bigger venues. That's a feat in itself. | ||
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jtbem
Canada1404 Posts
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GreatestThreat
United States631 Posts
The exception to the game-racial bias would be players that I feel drawn to as a person, the really charismatic individuals that you can't help but root for - i.e. for me personally: White Ra, BoxeR, MC, TLO etc. Note that there are BOTH KOREANS AND NON-KOREANS IN THAT LIST. Stop being racist and get your priorities straight. Good games > pitiful notions of such an idea as 'nationality'. Are invisible lines that were drawn on a globe generations before you were born by people you never knew actually important to you? Am I supposed to support people from NA because I happened to be born here by circumstance beyond my control, rather than the players that I enjoy watching because they play better and have exciting styles? I have no idea how people can possibly say korean domination makes the tournament boring when the koreans play so awesome (which is obviously WHY they're dominating) and are therefore more enjoyable to watch. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:30 TT1 wrote: dont understand why theyd give a casting break to both tastosis + dayhusk at the same time, no one can watch 2 games at the same time.. now would be the perfect time to have 1 team casting 1 match while the other takes a break Its not for breaks, its to keep to the streaming schedule (as much as possible), if they just went to games willy nilly then it'd be much much worse. | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:32 Pajegetc wrote: One of the Casters does the observing as well for the games as well. They can't broadcast matches without commentary? Sure they can. Not everything has to be super, professional quality (and its understandable while the casters are taking a break) | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:35 starbreaker10 wrote: Hey, are both the streams streaming the same games at this point?? By stream you mean a crowd watching something? Yes at least for me. | ||
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cENTRYZ
Norway832 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:34 icarly wrote: you enjoy 30+ minutes of downtime in between games when they could easily just hop into anybody's game in the open bracket/ championship play? no, i dont enjoy it, but i'm not dissapointed either. the world isnt perfect you know | ||
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fone
193 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:31 Grettin wrote: TLO has played 3 games if i remember right(atleast 2 tho). But apparently he isn't out. I'm not familiar with the pool system. You are right. MLGSC2Scores: SLush450 wins 2-0 over LiquidTLO in Pool :/ | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:30 SuperFanBoy wrote: To say its going to be a korean final means you are counting out top foreigners like huk/idra/naniwa.. The truth is most people want to watch the best games with the best strategies used and koreans are good because they practice a lot, if you have a problem with this then donate to your favourite foreign team so they can setup a proper team house with good coaching, the fact is koreans are more entertaining to watch.. Without koreans the competition is much lower level and less exciting, why would anyone watch MLG knowing that korean code A players are better than the players participating in MLG? Koreans are essential for the people watching who are interested in high level play.. I guess some people like you don't mind watching mediocre games with average players as long as a foreigner wins? sad. I'm counting out huk/idra/naniwa because none of them are doing that well in this tournament (at the moment) I actually view Sheth as a much more viable contender than any of those three at this stage. But what I'm basically doubting or not seeing the purpose of is a western pro scene for SC2 when none of the players are close enough in level to consistently take games off koreans, let alone win sets or tournaments. Why should I be spending time on lesser western players and western tournaments when I can just watch the GSL and do something else with my time. I'm thinking that if westerners don't improve drastically - and soon - the western pro scene might simply implode. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:35 Maghetti wrote: I would say that yeah ;o. I am against cheering for your local team just because it is a local team. It is illogical. Two team players could trade spots and suddenly the same players would be cheered against? Thats stupid. The only reasonable method of deciding who to cheer for is on an individual level. With the koreans, they have the better games because they are harder workers, and have the better skills. I am fine with cheering for Huk for example because he is a foreigner AND a code S level player when playing his best. Cheering for haypro over someone like bomber just makes my brain explode however. Your opinion doesnt make any more sense than someone elses. Rooting based on nationality or location is completely valid because you have commonalities with those people. I'd always cheer over a foreigner over a korean in most cases because of that. | ||
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SuperFanBoy
New Zealand1068 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:32 DizzyDrone wrote: I root for players because I like them, and it's just a lot easier to like players that show what they are like so that you can identify with them. I root for Tyler because he's an awesome guy who's part of one of my favorite SC2 shows. I don't root for DRG because although he's an awesome player, one interview just isn't enough to make me care. Obviously I'm going to like foreigners more. Hope that clears it up for the people who just don't understand why people would root for foreigners. Well you should start rooting for players who actually good, otherwise tournaments like this won't be enjoyable for you.. its the same with people who root for destiny in which they always end up crying, the reason is because hes not top tier not because the competition is too good. The high level is there, the standard has been set.. Its up to the rest of the players to play at that level.. everybody wants to see the best play against the best. | ||
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GrimMind
Mexico53 Posts
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Cyrak
Canada536 Posts
On August 27 2011 11:35 hitpoint wrote: Yea when my school sports team plays another school, I root for the other team because they are superior players and produce better games. Wait that's actually not true at all. It's not hard to understand. People want their "home town" teams etc. to do well. In this case foreigners are seen as that. It's not because of racism or some other retarded oversimplification. This kind of logic is rampant in this thread, and it's beyond ridiculous. Swedes are not "home town" players for Americans (neither are Huk, Kiwikaki, or Select for that matter). This line of reasoning just doesn't apply to this discussion. | ||
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