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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:

The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7801
Hope to see you win, ret! Good luck!
SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7802
NaDa makes me weak in the knees
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7803
retje versus NaDa game 1 starting on red
justsayinbro
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
307 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7804
On August 27 2011 11:38 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 11:35 justsayinbro wrote:
hey i just tuned in, any win signs so far? lol. go dutch go is not clever at all


Hey!You missed a awesome nuke game.Here,ill summarize for you

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oh my, thanks for that.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7805
woah Ret's english is amazing
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7806
Isn't Coca Code S?
MasterVelVet
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium132 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7807
gl dutchie
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7808
Did they just call CoCa a B-teamer?

What the fuck.
FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7809
fuck yah milkis
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 02:40:42
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7810
On August 27 2011 11:37 Cyrak wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:35 hitpoint wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:28 humbre wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:22 Maghetti wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:12 hitpoint wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:09 Quotidian wrote:
I'm sorry to say this, but the current korean dominance is killing the enjoyment of western tournaments for me. There's just no one to root for, because no one seems to have a chance.


I won't stop watching. But I basically agree that tournaments are far less enjoyable with Koreans always winning. Sorry, it's the truth.

Not a problem for me because I root for most of the koreans over most of the foreigners :D


me too, they are superior players and produce way better games. Boggles mu mind that somebody would prefer to watch naniwa vs idra over MC vs Nestea in the finals of MLZG only because they are foreigners


Yea when my school sports team plays another school, I root for the other team because they are superior players and produce better games. Wait that's actually not true at all.

It's not hard to understand. People want their "home town" teams etc. to do well. In this case foreigners are seen as that. It's not because of racism or some other retarded oversimplification. This kind of logic is rampant in this thread, and it's beyond ridiculous.


Swedes are not "home town" players for Americans (neither are Huk, Kiwikaki, or Select for that matter). This line of reasoning just doesn't apply to this discussion.


Actually you're completely wrong. For the SC community they are hometown players, or at least representatives of the foreign scene as a whole. It's foreigners vs Koreans, it's always been. If you don't feel that way then you're in the minority. I'm sure Americans were cheering just as hard for the Swedes in GSL.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
August 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#7811
crowd not going wild for nada? sad
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7812
Damnit, I love both Nada and Ret and both are already down 0-1. Don't know who to root for
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7813
Nada show us your body!!!
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 02:40:27
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7814
On August 27 2011 11:37 SuperFanBoy wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:32 DizzyDrone wrote:
I root for players because I like them, and it's just a lot easier to like players that show what they are like so that you can identify with them. I root for Tyler because he's an awesome guy who's part of one of my favorite SC2 shows. I don't root for DRG because although he's an awesome player, one interview just isn't enough to make me care.

Obviously I'm going to like foreigners more.

Hope that clears it up for the people who just don't understand why people would root for foreigners.


Well you should start rooting for players who actually good, otherwise tournaments like this won't be enjoyable for you.. its the same with people who root for destiny in which they always end up crying, the reason is because hes not top tier not because the competition is too good.

The high level is there, the standard has been set.. Its up to the rest of the players to play at that level.. everybody wants to see the best play against the best.


By this logic football fans should only ever root for Arsenal, Chelsea, Man U and Liverpool and teams like West Ham shouldn't have any fans at all. We would end up with a premier league of only four teams.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7815
On August 27 2011 11:32 Sleight wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:27 Sleight wrote:
So far in pool play here is how the non Koreigns are doing by team:

Dignitas 10-6
EG 4-10
Liquid 2-8 (excluding Sheth2:0Ret because that is just 2-2)
Root 3-4
FXO 0-4
RGN 2:0

This is everything on MLG's website. Seems Dig is top. EG is 2-0 over Liquid in matches, with only Sheth having won any games for them (2-0 vs moonan). Root, FXO, and RGN, only have one player reporting for them each, but I included them for fairness sake.



Update with Bomber > Machine

EG now 5-12, rest is the same.



Whhhoops. Watching Destiny makes me forget Root is gone.

Col is 3-4 (Slush. I am keeping him separate from DRG).
One Love
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7816
Nada so mannered.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7817
Coca IS code S oO

" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7818
On August 27 2011 11:28 havox_ wrote:
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On August 27 2011 11:24 benjammin wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:19 TheRPGAddict wrote:
On August 27 2011 11:16 Heavenly wrote:
I always lol at people who say it's such a disappointment when koreans beat foreigners. Why? Because their skin is white? Why do people from the US somehow lump themselves together with people from the Ukraine and Sweden? With Chinese players and Latin American players? Just makes no sense. "Korean" esports are now becoming esports throughout the world with their participation in foreign tournaments and foreign participation in their tournaments, this isn't Brood War. Tons of Koreans are joining foreigner teams and there are tons of mergers going on.

So silly, I really can't think of anything other than skin color that makes Korea different. People love it when good Swedes dominate but if it's Koreans, oh no this tournament is so boring I wish foreigners would win.
I agree, I root for players specifically not nationalities. I think rooting for foreigners or being a fan of foreigners for the sake of them being a foreigner is just nonsensical. I don't think I will ever understand it. Whenever someone posts the "foreigners fighting" slogan for GSL events I grow a brain tumor.


i'm assuming you weren't around for BW scene..

Or hes actually somebody who really just likes to watch amazing matches and wants the best player to win?^^
I followed it very little as compared to now, however, I knew of the divide and the circumstances of why the foreigners could not realistically compete with Koreans, still my favorite players from that scene are still Korean (Nada, Jaedong, Eff0rt) but I do not like them because they are Korean, I like them because of their play. It is a moot point anyways, because that divide does not exist as it once did. GSL has been more than accommodating to foreigners wishing to compete in their league whether it be through the league exchange program giving spots to Code A or filling in spots for foreigners in Code B who wish to enter the Code A prelims. It is what it is. I like alot of foreigners too, but I like them because of how they play and who they are, not because they are the underdog going up against Koreans. Simply put, if there is a player I root for during a match, I root for them because of their personality/play/story. If there is a player who so happens to be a foreigner playing someone who so happens to be a Korean and I like the player who so happens to be a foreigner more, I will root for the foreigner and vice versa. In this match, I will root for Nada, because it is fucking NADA!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7819
On August 27 2011 11:39 babylon wrote:
Did they just call CoCa a B-teamer?

What the fuck.

Seriously, he's code S and undoubtedly SlayerS best zerg now lol
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
August 27 2011 02:40 GMT
#7820
Is that the NHS logo on Nada's shirt? Upper right corner.
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