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SlayerSBriefS
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States37 Posts
June 06 2011 04:50 GMT
#461



who is your biggest rival?
-incontrol

any last words?
-hopefully i'll see you at the nasl or play some games at the nasl


guess he really meant it when he said only 'some' games

lol.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
June 06 2011 04:50 GMT
#462
On June 06 2011 13:45 MYM.ClouD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:43 BackHo wrote:
Meh, truth be told I understand players not respecting NASL - it's been a badly run tournament right from the beginning.

There have been some problems but I disagree on this. I think NASL has improved a lot and is bringing great games, casting, players to everyone on a daily basis and a very small price. As a player I have to say the organization has been extremely nice, only thing I didn't like was the very tight and rigid schedule but apart from this I have always been happy with the management of NASL and the way they always try to fix things in the best possible way.

I loved your interview with iNcontroL today. Great games against Sen!
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 06 2011 04:51 GMT
#463
On June 06 2011 13:45 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:45 DarkRise wrote:
Looks like the Koreans are taking this more seriously than the foreigners....

link and/or translations? I'm interested

He is probably just speculating considering that the majority of no-shows have come from non-Koreans.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
June 06 2011 04:51 GMT
#464
Some people are putting more blame on NASL? Thats fine for now, technically this is NASL's league and they are ultimately responsible for putting on a show. Ofcourse, I do disagree and I think the majority of fault should be on Painuser.

Whether you blame NASL or PU, the damage on PU's image has been done. I'd be shocked if the IGN approves of this behavior as well which could potentially hurt his new career.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Sami`
Profile Joined March 2011
89 Posts
June 06 2011 04:51 GMT
#465
Tweet @ed_chang from IGN and let him know what you think of PU.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:52:41
June 06 2011 04:51 GMT
#466
On June 06 2011 13:48 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:44 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:39 bennyaus wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote:
What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".


NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.

It shouldn't really be NASL's responsibility to get a hold of him in either case... he signed a contract and even if he didn't have the decency to get a hold of them or answer your phone/ e-mail once in 3 weeks? Even if they didn't try as hard as they say they did to get a hold of him, its easy to assume they called/e-mailed him once every week, thats 2 weeks to check your e-mail or phone history to call them back, which he didn't do.

There is no excuse for not showing up/ getting a hold of them for 3 weeks in a row. I'm probably more angry then I should, which is most likely due to the fact that he has now stood up and wasted Boxers time, but still complete dick move totally unprofessional/inexcusable


No, NASL should bear some responsibility to at least make contact prior to that matchups and confirm everything, especially with all the WO's happening lately. While it may be his responsibility as the player to show up and respect the contracts, it looks bad for NASL if he doesn't show up (which he didn't)


I'm sorry, I have to absolutely disagree.

If you hire a contractor to show up to work, you expect them to show up. The onus is not on the organizer to run around every week to remind them of them responsibilities, make them a sack lunch, wipe their ass etc.

Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
June 06 2011 04:51 GMT
#467
On June 06 2011 13:48 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:44 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:39 bennyaus wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote:
What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".


NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.

It shouldn't really be NASL's responsibility to get a hold of him in either case... he signed a contract and even if he didn't have the decency to get a hold of them or answer your phone/ e-mail once in 3 weeks? Even if they didn't try as hard as they say they did to get a hold of him, its easy to assume they called/e-mailed him once every week, thats 2 weeks to check your e-mail or phone history to call them back, which he didn't do.

There is no excuse for not showing up/ getting a hold of them for 3 weeks in a row. I'm probably more angry then I should, which is most likely due to the fact that he has now stood up and wasted Boxers time, but still complete dick move totally unprofessional/inexcusable


No, NASL should bear some responsibility to at least make contact prior to that matchups and confirm everything, especially with all the WO's happening lately. While it may be his responsibility as the player to show up and respect the contracts, it looks bad for NASL if he doesn't show up (which he didn't)
WTF they did everything they could to contact him. Read before posting
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 04:52 GMT
#468
This was posted in another thread.

Oh about NASL, on djwheat's show taylor said he now has a fulltime job with IGN and that NASL won't let him reschedule his matches to be outside of work hours.


Miscommunication and fault on both parties?
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
425kid
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
June 06 2011 04:52 GMT
#469
NASL should also update their schedules if they know theres a walkover. This was filmed days ago but we didnt know boxer didnt play until after we had watched the rest of the games. I was just waiting for boxer
Kortosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States6 Posts
June 06 2011 04:52 GMT
#470
I used to be a fan of Painuser after seeing HD videos with him in it and watching his casting. His safe way of playing Terran always intrigued me and I was happy with seeing him get 3rd at MLG Dallas 2010. If you ever saw some of the games he played on Desert Oasis, he was pretty fun to watch. I actually felt bad for him that he hadn't won a game in the NASL.

But now I would have to say he has lost a fan. I for one do not respect quitters. Him not giving warning to Boxer to me isn't terribly bad mannered (not as bad as MC being an absolute dick to Idra after the match) but it shows bad on his character not informing the league that he was done. We shall see if these acts make him lose all of his fans
"There is no such thing as stupid questions, just stupid people."
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
June 06 2011 04:53 GMT
#471
On June 06 2011 13:48 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:44 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:39 bennyaus wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote:
What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".


NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.

It shouldn't really be NASL's responsibility to get a hold of him in either case... he signed a contract and even if he didn't have the decency to get a hold of them or answer your phone/ e-mail once in 3 weeks? Even if they didn't try as hard as they say they did to get a hold of him, its easy to assume they called/e-mailed him once every week, thats 2 weeks to check your e-mail or phone history to call them back, which he didn't do.

There is no excuse for not showing up/ getting a hold of them for 3 weeks in a row. I'm probably more angry then I should, which is most likely due to the fact that he has now stood up and wasted Boxers time, but still complete dick move totally unprofessional/inexcusable


No, NASL should bear some responsibility to at least make contact prior to that matchups and confirm everything, especially with all the WO's happening lately. While it may be his responsibility as the player to show up and respect the contracts, it looks bad for NASL if he doesn't show up (which he didn't)

No, they shouldn't... The player signed up to be in the league and is expected to show up unless other wise stated! End of story, does your boss call you every night before work to make sure you're going to show up the next day? No he doesn't because its your damn responsibility to show up or let your boss no you won't be able to show up!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 06 2011 04:53 GMT
#472
On June 06 2011 13:52 bennyaus wrote:
This was posted in another thread.

Show nested quote +
Oh about NASL, on djwheat's show taylor said he now has a fulltime job with IGN and that NASL won't let him reschedule his matches to be outside of work hours.


Miscommunication and fault on both parties?


No. PainUser all the way. His statement only implies there is conflict. It in no way implies that he's decided to give up or not resolve it.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:56:46
June 06 2011 04:54 GMT
#473
On June 06 2011 13:42 thesundowners wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:39 bennyaus wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote:
What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".


NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.


What reasons do we have to doubt them? It's not like every other time they've claimed this the other player has come out and said "that's not true"

Exactly. If NASL lied the players would call them out on it. And it's not like anyone is claiming other players have been screwing around. Sure others have had WOs, but no one has done it 3 weeks in a row. And they have legit reasons (or so I'm assuming, because NASL hasn't exactly said anything contrary to that).

Also, thesundowners... are you from niagara or frequent the area on a regular basis?
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
June 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#474
Lol at all of the "there's another side to the story." No, sorry there's not. All other scenarios it was clear the player just scheduled badly/conflicting events/or something SOMEWHAT reasonable. This case (including last week as well if I recall correctly) it's just clear disrespect to NASL and the player(s).
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
Kamuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:55:58
June 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#475
What I have a huge problem here with, outside of the fact he was a complete flake who disappeared, is hes ruining the spirit of the competition within the league. That entire division he played in is now skewed with results that could have looked differently if the matches were played. In a league where rankings are ultimately determined by +\- wins, PainUser is disrespecting his fellow competitors by not giving 100% and creating a fair division where each match is taken seriously. If someone were to lose a spot in the playoffs because a player gets a 2-0 walkover in week 9, then I would be incredibly pissed at PU.

His actions do not only affect him, but everyone within his division. Thats why this is a big deal, and thats why he should be receiving this amount of negativity. Its terrible for NASL to lose out on final week matches that determine playoff spots, when the league is suppose to be at its most competitive state.
HuK | MC | Naniwa | White-Ra | KiWiKaKi | I love protoss :D
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
June 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#476
On June 06 2011 13:52 bennyaus wrote:
This was posted in another thread.

Show nested quote +
Oh about NASL, on djwheat's show taylor said he now has a fulltime job with IGN and that NASL won't let him reschedule his matches to be outside of work hours.


Miscommunication and fault on both parties?


No, it's not NASL job to go through threads or listen to every broadcast for SC2. They`re all obviously busy themselves and all Painuser had to do was email them with the same information. Is that really difficult? Pick up the phone or send a text?
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:58:21
June 06 2011 04:56 GMT
#477
On June 06 2011 13:55 LeaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:52 bennyaus wrote:
This was posted in another thread.

Oh about NASL, on djwheat's show taylor said he now has a fulltime job with IGN and that NASL won't let him reschedule his matches to be outside of work hours.


Miscommunication and fault on both parties?


No, it's not NASL job to go through threads or listen to every broadcast for SC2. They`re all obviously busy themselves and all Painuser had to do was email them with the same information. Is that really difficult? Pick up the phone or send a text?


The same broadcast that a NASL employee is on? Maybe PU though he made it clear?

I feel as if everyone is just trusting one parties word here. I know that if I told a responsible employee/figurehead of a company that I was not turning up tomorrow or again that I would assume he would not wait for me to confirm it on the day.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
SlayerSBriefS
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States37 Posts
June 06 2011 04:57 GMT
#478
painuser? more like painloser.
Kamuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 06 2011 04:57 GMT
#479
By the way has anyone asked the question, "If PU was 5-2 in the league, would he still pull this disappearing stunt?"

HuK | MC | Naniwa | White-Ra | KiWiKaKi | I love protoss :D
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6644 Posts
June 06 2011 04:58 GMT
#480
On June 06 2011 13:56 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:55 LeaD wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:52 bennyaus wrote:
This was posted in another thread.

Oh about NASL, on djwheat's show taylor said he now has a fulltime job with IGN and that NASL won't let him reschedule his matches to be outside of work hours.


Miscommunication and fault on both parties?


No, it's not NASL job to go through threads or listen to every broadcast for SC2. They`re all obviously busy themselves and all Painuser had to do was email them with the same information. Is that really difficult? Pick up the phone or send a text?


The same broadcast that a NASL employee is on? Maybe PU though he made it clear?

If he thought he made it clear, after the first week or two or them trying to get a hold of him during match time you'd think he speak up and make it really clear? I do not understand why you try and defend him on this? if NASL was to take any blame in this its easily under 10% and thats being generous....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
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