On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote: I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.
People shouldn't boycott the IPL2 because of a jerk caster.
Im boycotting IPL2 if they dont remove PU as a caster, infact i think a petition is in order to get him to resign. there are plenty of casters who are more dedicated and accountable then PU and deserve to get a shot over him at IPL2.
He didnt just fuck with boxer, he fucked with the integrity of the NASL and messed with the viewers times. That is just not cool.
You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott.
I'll only watch the IPL matches with IdrA...why laugh at the idea of viewing things you approve of and not giving ad revenue to show your distaste of a caster? I'm sure his twitter is already getting bombarded, and people probably will send messages to the IPL in regards to PU and his actions.
End story: Don't make boxer wake up at unreasonable hours to not play a game against you. That is the quickest way to get major hate from the Starcraft II community.
On June 06 2011 13:42 Pudge_172 wrote: I know on Inside the Game that PU said he was done as a player.
Shouldn't have been a surprise he was going to no-show unless this was supposed to be played BEFORE the last Inside the Game.
Okay, but just because you say it on a show doesn't make it formal. It makes it formal when you answer your phone and tell the LEAGUE you are participating in, "I'm done being a player, thanks for the opportunity but I have to much other shit going on in my life"...instead, he no shows SlayerS Boxer....a fucking legend.
On June 06 2011 13:19 hiphoppopotomus wrote: why is everyone freaking out so much about PU no-showing? Sure it's lame and everything but you're acting like he committed a crime when in fact he's just being relatively weird. I think this is around on par with idra telling everyone to fuck off and calling cruncher a waste of life. I don't know it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
You and everyone defending PainUser... seriously I would stop that, because that speaks volumes about your character and the way you approach your profissional life.
I wonder if it has to do with the age of most people posting in this forum (teenagers, university students) and I understand that most of you have never had a job or something like that, but this kind of behavior is totally, completely, 100% unacceptable in any business. A fine would be more than suitable in this case.
1000% sign. To me PainUser is simply a dead piece of meat. I would rather watch some grannies chroching than Painuser casting or reading him...
On June 06 2011 13:41 Scrandom wrote: Painuser is on that show with djwheat and incontrol and he can't even have the decency to let someone like incontrol know he quits? What's wrong with him
Incontrol is on a show with Painuser and he doesn't even have half of a brain cell to ask casually whether Painuser is going to forfeit his 3rd game in a row?
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote: What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".
NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.
What reasons do we have to doubt them? It's not like every other time they've claimed this the other player has come out and said "that's not true"
On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote: I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.
People shouldn't boycott the IPL2 because of a jerk caster.
Im boycotting IPL2 if they dont remove PU as a caster, infact i think a petition is in order to get him to resign. there are plenty of casters who are more dedicated and accountable then PU and deserve to get a shot over him at IPL2.
He didnt just fuck with boxer, he fucked with the integrity of the NASL and messed with the viewers times. That is just not cool.
You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott.
Awesome, we need to be above 100 posts to act "all high and mighty. Do I think Painuser should have his casting career ruined over this? No, the guy apparently is talented, but he's a pretty big douchebag (you seem like one too) for doing this. Will I miss tournaments because he is commenting? No, but will I skip out on going to his youtube channel or the interviews he's posting from MLG at the moment, yes.
The guy just should have responded with an email saying "I can't play anymore", that's it, anything really. He instead decides to completely ignore NASL, irritates the fans and other professional gamers that have garnered far more respect within the community than he has. This has to be horrible for NASL because not only did they choose to let him have one of their very highly sought after spots for the season, but each week he misses they lose games they could have broadcast-ed to please fans (just to watch Boxer play) and for additional advertisement time. Not only does Boxer have to get up at some atrocious time in the morning, but the casters have to wait, the tech team, and then the fans get slapped in the face on game day.
The biggest problem is that it isn't difficult AT ALL for him to fix this problem, a text, an email or any multitude of ways to contact NASL and save us all some time. How lazy or stupid can you be?
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote: What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".
NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.
It shouldn't really be NASL's responsibility to get a hold of him in either case... he signed a contract and even if he didn't have the decency to get a hold of them or answer your phone/ e-mail once in 3 weeks? Even if they didn't try as hard as they say they did to get a hold of him, its easy to assume they called/e-mailed him once every week, thats 2 weeks to check your e-mail or phone history to call them back, which he didn't do.
There is no excuse for not showing up/ getting a hold of them for 3 weeks in a row. I'm probably more angry then I should, which is most likely due to the fact that he has now stood up and wasted Boxers time, but still complete dick move totally unprofessional/inexcusable
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote: What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".
NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.
What reasons do we have to doubt them? It's not like every other time they've claimed this the other player has come out and said "that's not true"
My reason is that I am in disbelief that so many players would be so rude. Maybe this is the world we live in though. I would never let a situation like this occur, personally, so I can really think it is as simple as being stated.
what really sucks, is Painuser played 5 of his 9 games... even going 4-5 (if he played those 4 he missed/ going to miss) he would of stayed in NASL for next season.
But he quit, and this effects the top 4 players A LOT, since he had to play vs them and gave them free points... something that effects who gets to be top 2 and who is in play offs.
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote: What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".
NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.
I doubt it. You really think they are stupid enough to lie about it? If they did, obviously the players would call them out on it. If painuser flat out told them he wasn't coming, do you think he's going to sit here and let NASL slander his name? You really think his friend (incontrol) would do that to him to begin with? Geoff seemed genuinely pissed off.
And yea it is believable that it happened with all the other players. It's not like they are trying to contact the player for days. I assume they have a scheduled time for the matches (which the player must know) and when someone doesn't show they try getting a hold of them at that time. But they probably give up after an hour or something like that. It is perfectly reasonable that a player is unreachable for an hour or two.
On June 06 2011 13:43 BackHo wrote: Meh, truth be told I understand players not respecting NASL - it's been a badly run tournament right from the beginning.
There have been some problems but I disagree on this. I think NASL has improved a lot and is bringing great games, casting, players to everyone on a daily basis and a very small price. As a player I have to say the organization has been extremely nice, only thing I didn't like was the very tight and rigid schedule but apart from this I have always been happy with the management of NASL and the way they always try to fix things in the best possible way.
On June 06 2011 13:43 BackHo wrote: Meh, truth be told I understand players not respecting NASL - it's been a badly run tournament right from the beginning.
Ignoring the fact that disrespecting the tournament by no-showing probably isn't the best way of voicing your opinions about how said tournament is run...
it's not just NASL they're disrespecting, they're disrespecting their opponents, and that's actually worse IMO.
If PainUser has beef with NASL, I'm not going to hold it against him (although I have no reason to believe he does), but I do have a problem with fucking other players about.
EDIT: The above said, I do disagree with you, and agree with Cloud above. The guy knows his shit.
On June 06 2011 13:42 don_kyuhote wrote: Does anyone have a link to Painuser's NASL application video? Boy I sure wanna go back and listen to what he said.
NASL should have just forfeited him out of the league last week. If someone doesn't show up for their match, and doesn't explain themselves later, kick them out. It's stupid to make his opponents stand by for 2-4 hours to get the win.
On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote: I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.
People shouldn't boycott the IPL2 because of a jerk caster.
Im boycotting IPL2 if they dont remove PU as a caster, infact i think a petition is in order to get him to resign. there are plenty of casters who are more dedicated and accountable then PU and deserve to get a shot over him at IPL2.
He didnt just fuck with boxer, he fucked with the integrity of the NASL and messed with the viewers times. That is just not cool.
You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott.
I'll only watch the IPL matches with IdrA...why laugh at the idea of viewing things you approve of and not giving ad revenue to show your distaste of a caster? I'm sure his twitter is already getting bombarded, and people probably will send messages to the IPL in regards to PU and his actions.
End story: Don't make boxer wake up at unreasonable hours to not play a game against you. That is the quickest way to get major hate from the Starcraft II community.
But blaming IPl for pu's actions, is just silly. IPL is a great league . Let them take care of him, and I'll keep watching for the amazing games and such.
On June 06 2011 13:41 Scrandom wrote: Painuser is on that show with djwheat and incontrol and he can't even have the decency to let someone like incontrol know he quits? What's wrong with him
Incontrol is on a show with Painuser and he doesn't even have half of a brain cell to ask casually whether Painuser is going to forfeit his 3rd game in a row?
Each story has two sides.
Its not up to Incontrol to do that, PU signed up to be in the league and is expected to be there unless he says otherwise. The fault is 100% on PU
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote: What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".
NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.
It shouldn't really be NASL's responsibility to get a hold of him in either case... he signed a contract and even if he didn't have the decency to get a hold of them or answer your phone/ e-mail once in 3 weeks? Even if they didn't try as hard as they say they did to get a hold of him, its easy to assume they called/e-mailed him once every week, thats 2 weeks to check your e-mail or phone history to call them back, which he didn't do.
There is no excuse for not showing up/ getting a hold of them for 3 weeks in a row. I'm probably more angry then I should, which is most likely due to the fact that he has now stood up and wasted Boxers time, but still complete dick move totally unprofessional/inexcusable
No, NASL should bear some responsibility to at least make contact prior to that matchups and confirm everything, especially with all the WO's happening lately. While it may be his responsibility as the player to show up and respect the contracts, it looks bad for NASL if he doesn't show up (which he didn't)
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