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Sami`
Profile Joined March 2011
89 Posts
June 06 2011 04:33 GMT
#421
On June 06 2011 13:29 Marcus420 wrote:
You're being irrational . PU is one of many casters for IPL


Should be easy to get rid of him then and maintain some integrity within the sc2 professional scene.

PU should be made an example of to discourage this kind of behaviour in the future, the sc2 community should be standing up and letting everyone know acting in this way is unacceptable and we won't tolerate it.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 06 2011 04:33 GMT
#422
On June 06 2011 13:31 ven wrote:
Not to take the blame away from PainUser but I think the NASL could have done a better job of getting ahead of problems like this. Sure, PainUser could have given notice of not participating in it anymore but it's not that hard getting confirmation from the players either. Does NASL not communicate with the players other than when the matches are happening?


They tried to get ahold of him, as Incontrol said in his speech, by phone/e-mail and even calling up people close to him to try and hunt him down. The blame is 100% on painuser
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
June 06 2011 04:34 GMT
#423
On June 06 2011 13:28 VenerableSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:23 Chainfire99 wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote:
I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.


People shouldn't boycott the IPL2 because of a jerk caster.


Im boycotting IPL2 if they dont remove PU as a caster, infact i think a petition is in order to get him to resign. there are plenty of casters who are more dedicated and accountable then PU and deserve to get a shot over him at IPL2.

He didnt just fuck with boxer, he fucked with the integrity of the NASL and messed with the viewers times. That is just not cool.

You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:36:36
June 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#424
My biggest problem with this is that it disadvantages the players that had to play him - They won fairly, some might have dropped a map and lost a point (Socke and ClouD beat him 2-1). The others are getting a free 2 points, while PU might have taken a game or even a map vs one of those players that got walkovers.
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:37:10
June 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#425
On June 06 2011 13:31 ven wrote:
Not to take the blame away from PainUser but I think the NASL could have done a better job of getting ahead of problems like this. Sure, PainUser could have given notice of not participating in it anymore but it's not that hard getting confirmation from the players either. Does NASL not communicate with the players other than when the matches are happening?


Incontrol actually addressed this in depth. His mentioned phone calls, emails, trying to get to him through other people, and other personal channels all as ways they had tried to contact him. Believe me, it's not NASL's fault whatsoever.

Edit: Necro beat me.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#426
On June 06 2011 13:34 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:28 VenerableSpace wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:23 Chainfire99 wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote:
I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.


People shouldn't boycott the IPL2 because of a jerk caster.


Im boycotting IPL2 if they dont remove PU as a caster, infact i think a petition is in order to get him to resign. there are plenty of casters who are more dedicated and accountable then PU and deserve to get a shot over him at IPL2.

He didnt just fuck with boxer, he fucked with the integrity of the NASL and messed with the viewers times. That is just not cool.

You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott.


Herp Derp I have more post lol I must be right... /facepalm
Seriously word your argument better...

on a side note I agree the boycott won't do shit, though more people should boycott him they won't and it will fail....
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
SlayerSBriefS
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States37 Posts
June 06 2011 04:36 GMT
#427
nasl being sabotaged by its players

i knew this was going to happen (painuser, goody, brat-ok)
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 06 2011 04:37 GMT
#428
Well taking a look at the standings/points... this is the situation now:

Boxer wins (2-0 or 2-1) and Sen wins (2-0 or 2-1) and they will both advance.
Boxer loses (1-2 or 0-2) and Sen wins (2-0 or 2-1), Sen and Zenio will advance.
Boxer wins (2-0 or 2-1) and Sen loses (1-2 or 0-2), Boxer and Zenio will advance.
Boxer loses (0-2 or 1-2) and Sen loses (1-2 or 0-2), IdrA and Zenio will advance.

Basically, Boxer and Sen have everything in their hands right now. Whichever one of them wins will advance. If either of them loses, it opens up a spot for Zenio or IdrA (Zenio will take the first spot since he will finish ahead of IdrA regardless). Pretty crucial loss for Sen today.


Btw, about Painuser, him not showing up is only half the problem (IMO, you agree to a league like this and you're obligated to at least show up). What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw". Wouldn't be wasting everyones damn time and making the koreans get up at 3 am for no reason (which Zenio will also have to do next week if Painuser doesn't show up). It is just so ridiculously unprofessional.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 04:38 GMT
#429
Irony considering all the other players who have missed their matches (and some others who have missed multiple). Nobody is advocating what Painuser did, simply just saying to calm down. PU might've mentioned offhand that he wasn't playing anymore and maybe assumed that NASL would take that as every following game would be a walkover. We simply don't know all the details and frankly we're being a little unfair on PU atm.

I also agree with another poster saying that some of the fault has to come from NASL for picking PU in the first place, and then not talking to him about this issue before this week (I mean come on, Incontrol is in contact with him on a weekly basis at minimum, you'd have to know this was going to become an issue as of last week or the week before)
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:41:31
June 06 2011 04:38 GMT
#430
Painuser was an ok caster and i might of watched him before this but i am never going to watch anything he casts after this. Him giving up speaks volumes for his character and shows how little he cares for e-sports. It does not matter if he was going to retire, you still finish your obligations to your sport out of respect to the other players and most of all to your fans. And that it was boxer is just salt on the wound. A legend like that and you are going to stand him up, hope this guy fades out of the SC2 scene after this.
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Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 06 2011 04:38 GMT
#431
The worst bit of this is that he took a tournament spot that could have gone to a good player who would have tried and stuck out till the end. Really this just shows his true character, in my opinion.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
June 06 2011 04:38 GMT
#432
I really can't stand it when people waste others' time. It's as simple as that.

Boxer, a player many feel honoured to play against, win or lose, got up early in the morning to play vs. PainUser. Personally, I'd drop everything to play against him. If I had to play Boxer at 3AM with an important exam at 9AM, I'd still play vs. him, and I would sit and be overjoyed as he destroyed me.

Hell, it would take some sort of medical/family emergency to stop me playing. And even then I'd try to get in touch and tell people what was going on, because I try to avoid wasting time for people.

If you make commitments, you should damn well keep to them or give people good reasons where you can.

This is ignoring that PainUser has done this before, which is equally bad. It's just not right.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
June 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#433
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote:
What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw".


NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#434
Its not impossible to notify ahead of time that you will be unable to play. Artosis has no-showed 2 weeks in a row but gave notice that his internet is not up so he would be unable to play his games. Simple notification is all it takes and its the difference between being professional and unproffessional. They will probably have to up the deposit to $500 just so there players actually follow thru on a commitment.
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:40:58
June 06 2011 04:39 GMT
#435
_double post_

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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
June 06 2011 04:40 GMT
#436
On June 06 2011 13:36 Thrax wrote:
My biggest problem with this is that it disadvantages the players that had to play him - They won fairly, some might have dropped a map and lost a point (Socke and ClouD beat him 2-1). The others are getting a free 2 points, while PU might have taken a game or even a map vs one of those players that got walkovers.

It seems like NASL is doing something about that. If you look at Painusers profile on the NASL website, it just shows a Loss and 0-0 in all his matchups. Maybe they are awarding everyone a 2-0 win against him?

Obviously thats the fairest way to resolve this situation. Looks like Socke and ClouD (and whoever else... if anyone lost points again him) will get their 2 points they deserve.
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
June 06 2011 04:40 GMT
#437
Well I mean its kind of expected when you have a tournament that runs weekly but if your below a certain cut off line your basically eliminated. The reason why GSL can do it is because its literally the only tournament in korea, so your fighting to stay in it. Painuser has stated that hes sort of backing off the whole pro gaming thing, but still he couldn't play one bo3 against boxer?
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
June 06 2011 04:41 GMT
#438
Painuser is on that show with djwheat and incontrol and he can't even have the decency to let someone like incontrol know he quits? What's wrong with him
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
June 06 2011 04:41 GMT
#439
On June 06 2011 13:40 MrDudeMan wrote:
Well I mean its kind of expected when you have a tournament that runs weekly but if your below a certain cut off line your basically eliminated. The reason why GSL can do it is because its literally the only tournament in korea, so your fighting to stay in it. Painuser has stated that hes sort of backing off the whole pro gaming thing, but still he couldn't play one bo3 against boxer?


Or just let everyone know that he wasn't interested in playing a bo3 against BoxeR...
moose...indian
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
June 06 2011 04:42 GMT
#440
I know on Inside the Game that PU said he was done as a player.

Shouldn't have been a surprise he was going to no-show unless this was supposed to be played BEFORE the last Inside the Game.
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