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Sami`
89 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:29 Marcus420 wrote: You're being irrational . PU is one of many casters for IPL Should be easy to get rid of him then and maintain some integrity within the sc2 professional scene. PU should be made an example of to discourage this kind of behaviour in the future, the sc2 community should be standing up and letting everyone know acting in this way is unacceptable and we won't tolerate it. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:31 ven wrote: Not to take the blame away from PainUser but I think the NASL could have done a better job of getting ahead of problems like this. Sure, PainUser could have given notice of not participating in it anymore but it's not that hard getting confirmation from the players either. Does NASL not communicate with the players other than when the matches are happening? They tried to get ahold of him, as Incontrol said in his speech, by phone/e-mail and even calling up people close to him to try and hunt him down. The blame is 100% on painuser | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:28 VenerableSpace wrote: Im boycotting IPL2 if they dont remove PU as a caster, infact i think a petition is in order to get him to resign. there are plenty of casters who are more dedicated and accountable then PU and deserve to get a shot over him at IPL2. He didnt just fuck with boxer, he fucked with the integrity of the NASL and messed with the viewers times. That is just not cool. You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott. | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
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DuB phool
United States1003 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:31 ven wrote: Not to take the blame away from PainUser but I think the NASL could have done a better job of getting ahead of problems like this. Sure, PainUser could have given notice of not participating in it anymore but it's not that hard getting confirmation from the players either. Does NASL not communicate with the players other than when the matches are happening? Incontrol actually addressed this in depth. His mentioned phone calls, emails, trying to get to him through other people, and other personal channels all as ways they had tried to contact him. Believe me, it's not NASL's fault whatsoever. Edit: Necro beat me.  | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:34 Marcus420 wrote: You and like 2 others, glhf. What's with all these sub 100 post people acting all high and mighty. Just get over it. Lol at the idea of a boycott. Herp Derp I have more post lol I must be right... /facepalm Seriously word your argument better... on a side note I agree the boycott won't do shit, though more people should boycott him they won't and it will fail.... | ||
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SlayerSBriefS
United States37 Posts
i knew this was going to happen (painuser, goody, brat-ok) | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
Boxer wins (2-0 or 2-1) and Sen wins (2-0 or 2-1) and they will both advance. Boxer loses (1-2 or 0-2) and Sen wins (2-0 or 2-1), Sen and Zenio will advance. Boxer wins (2-0 or 2-1) and Sen loses (1-2 or 0-2), Boxer and Zenio will advance. Boxer loses (0-2 or 1-2) and Sen loses (1-2 or 0-2), IdrA and Zenio will advance. Basically, Boxer and Sen have everything in their hands right now. Whichever one of them wins will advance. If either of them loses, it opens up a spot for Zenio or IdrA (Zenio will take the first spot since he will finish ahead of IdrA regardless). Pretty crucial loss for Sen today. Btw, about Painuser, him not showing up is only half the problem (IMO, you agree to a league like this and you're obligated to at least show up). What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw". Wouldn't be wasting everyones damn time and making the koreans get up at 3 am for no reason (which Zenio will also have to do next week if Painuser doesn't show up). It is just so ridiculously unprofessional. | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
I also agree with another poster saying that some of the fault has to come from NASL for picking PU in the first place, and then not talking to him about this issue before this week (I mean come on, Incontrol is in contact with him on a weekly basis at minimum, you'd have to know this was going to become an issue as of last week or the week before) | ||
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
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Stress
United States980 Posts
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
Boxer, a player many feel honoured to play against, win or lose, got up early in the morning to play vs. PainUser. Personally, I'd drop everything to play against him. If I had to play Boxer at 3AM with an important exam at 9AM, I'd still play vs. him, and I would sit and be overjoyed as he destroyed me. Hell, it would take some sort of medical/family emergency to stop me playing. And even then I'd try to get in touch and tell people what was going on, because I try to avoid wasting time for people. If you make commitments, you should damn well keep to them or give people good reasons where you can. This is ignoring that PainUser has done this before, which is equally bad. It's just not right. | ||
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:37 DoomsVille wrote: What is very very important is the fact that he has ignored all attempts by NASL to contact him. This is ludicrous. How hard is it to respond to an email or make a phone call. It would literally take him 2 minutes if he sent them an e-mail and said "I don't have time for the league so I withdraw". NASL has used this same response when they failed to get hold of Whitera and others who have been walk-over games. Frankly it is so unbelievable that I think there is more than just one side to these stories. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
Mod can you erase | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:36 Thrax wrote: My biggest problem with this is that it disadvantages the players that had to play him - They won fairly, some might have dropped a map and lost a point (Socke and ClouD beat him 2-1). The others are getting a free 2 points, while PU might have taken a game or even a map vs one of those players that got walkovers. It seems like NASL is doing something about that. If you look at Painusers profile on the NASL website, it just shows a Loss and 0-0 in all his matchups. Maybe they are awarding everyone a 2-0 win against him? Obviously thats the fairest way to resolve this situation. Looks like Socke and ClouD (and whoever else... if anyone lost points again him) will get their 2 points they deserve. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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reneg
United States859 Posts
On June 06 2011 13:40 MrDudeMan wrote: Well I mean its kind of expected when you have a tournament that runs weekly but if your below a certain cut off line your basically eliminated. The reason why GSL can do it is because its literally the only tournament in korea, so your fighting to stay in it. Painuser has stated that hes sort of backing off the whole pro gaming thing, but still he couldn't play one bo3 against boxer? Or just let everyone know that he wasn't interested in playing a bo3 against BoxeR... | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
Shouldn't have been a surprise he was going to no-show unless this was supposed to be played BEFORE the last Inside the Game. | ||
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