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iNCuBuS_
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States905 Posts
June 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#381
I am not so much bummed that I didn't get to see PainUser, but I am pretty bummed I didn't get to see Boxer
I think what Incontrol said was fine - I don't believe it was too harsh. If you sign up for something like the NASL, you should finish it, regardless of how well you do.
Besides that, good job and thank you NASL for continuing to put on a good show
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:24:57
June 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#382
On June 06 2011 13:13 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:11 Thrax wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:08 Azarkon wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:06 Mailing wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
Basically, Zenio, Sen, and IdrA are fighting it out for second spot at the moment (not sure about Boxer but he'll likely go 7-1 in the match vs. PainUser). Both Zenio and IdrA have lost to Sen and/or have worse points so Sen will advance unless he loses next week. If he loses next week, however, and IdrA and Zenio both win their coming matches, then Zenio will advance.


Sen has 9 points

idra has 7

if idra 2-0 boxer and sen 0-2, sen passes because he beat idra right?


Yes.

Actually, how many points does Zenio have? Can he still make the finals or is Sen auto-advancing now?

If IdrA 2-0s boxer, he has 11 points. If Sen loses 0-2, he would have 7 points. IdrA would advance.


I hope PU got fined.


IdrA has 5 points

He has 7 after today

If he 2-0 boxer, he has 9, which is the most he can get.

Zenio will take the walk-over vs Painuser and have 10

Sen at the worst will have 9 with idra, but win because of head to head

idra is rank 3 at best


Sen at the worst will have 7, if he loses 0-2 to Socke. He got -1 pt today, bringing him down to 9.

Boxer can get 11 at most, 7 at worst. If he gets 7 and Sen gets 7 he will advance because of HtH.

Zenio will get 10.

IdrA can get 9 at most, 5 at worst.

IdrA advancing will require Sen to lose to Socke 0-2 and him to win vs. Boxer 2-0.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#383
On June 06 2011 13:19 hiphoppopotomus wrote:
why is everyone freaking out so much about PU no-showing? Sure it's lame and everything but you're acting like he committed a crime when in fact he's just being relatively weird. I think this is around on par with idra telling everyone to fuck off and calling cruncher a waste of life. I don't know it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.


Boxer has to get up super early in the mornings and waited hours apparently.
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Flytothesky
Profile Joined April 2004
United States591 Posts
June 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#384
On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote:
I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.


This. Never fuck with Emperor.
Cri du Chat
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany606 Posts
June 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#385
On June 06 2011 13:18 Scrubington wrote:
I hope PainUser's okay.


Well he was at MLG
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229906
So Inc was propably able to speak with him there.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#386
Cloud has the integrity to play his games and win.

Painuser disappears and doesn't tell anyone. He's lucky to have his 9-5 job because he's never going to be sponsored by a legitimate team ever again.

I would never hire anyone that behaved in such a way, particularly in such a small scene where everyone knows everyone.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
June 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#387
On June 06 2011 13:19 hiphoppopotomus wrote:
why is everyone freaking out so much about PU no-showing? Sure it's lame and everything but you're acting like he committed a crime when in fact he's just being relatively weird. I think this is around on par with idra telling everyone to fuck off and calling cruncher a waste of life. I don't know it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

He stood up The Emperor. That's a big deal. I believe in Saudi Arabia they still stone people to death for that crime.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6657 Posts
June 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#388
On June 06 2011 13:18 bennyaus wrote:
How does this affect PU's casting career? Get over it. He is an excellent caster. Sure this was not the best way to deal with NASL, but plenty of players have made mistakes like this in the past. Shit happens.

Not the best way? lol make mistakes? he ignored them for 3 god damn weeks? and it does affect his casting career, who wants to hire a disrespectful unprofessional no show to cast for them?
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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#389
On June 06 2011 13:20 iNCuBuS_ wrote:
I am not so much bummed that I didn't get to see PainUser, but I am pretty bummed I didn't get to see Boxer
I think what Incontrol said was fine - I don't believe it was too harsh. If you sign up for something like the NASL, you should finish it, regardless of how well you do.
Besides that, good job and thank you NASL for continuing to put on a good show


At minimum, you actually get off your ass, stop being a pussy, and tell people you're not going to show up.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#390
On June 06 2011 13:17 Clicker wrote:
PU BM'd?
I missed it so I'm curious.


InC basically said, Painuser hasn't shown up again, this is the 3rd week in a row, we're extremely disappointed we haven't been able to get in contact with him.

When we try to get in touch with people, we email them, as their time comes up, we call, call their friends, call anyone who might be able to get in touch with them, so if there's a serious scheduling issue, we can address it (in case of emergencies etc). We have been completely unable to contact painuser with any attempt.

then he went on to compare it to a middleschool breakup where you don't know you're broken up with until all of a sudden the girl doesn't call you back anymore and you just come to the realization yourself.

He said he's extremely disappointed and emphasized that it was extremely unprofessional to not even let everyone know that he bailed on us.

he also said that BoxeR was upset because he had to wait for a while, and wasn't allowed to go, even though painuser has a history of being a flake.

That's pretty much it. Anyone feel free to let me know if i missed something.
moose...indian
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#391
Updated my playoff scenarios for division 5 if you guys were interested in who is likely to advance. Hint: pretty much not Idra.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=230567
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
VenerableSpace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States463 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#392
On June 06 2011 13:16 Marcus420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:11 Fubi wrote:
Man, wish NASL posted something (or edited a message into the start of their vod) about Painuser not showing up. I stayed up after a long day of MLG just to see boxer, and now to find out no games. FFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffff

Youre full of shit. A PU bs boxer game? Gj painuser now your casting career is fucked also



agreed, and rightfully so. This should be a black mark on PU's esports career. No sense of accountability or professionalism. He should at least told NASL he wasnt gonna show so they know it beforehand, not just stand them up.

I hope he gets shitlisted from casting for this because he not only made NASL look bad while wasting Boxer's time, but also wasted all the viewers time who were excited to see boxer play albeit against PU who hadnt won a game thusfar.
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#393
On June 06 2011 13:20 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:13 Mailing wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:11 Thrax wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:08 Azarkon wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:06 Mailing wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
Basically, Zenio, Sen, and IdrA are fighting it out for second spot at the moment (not sure about Boxer but he'll likely go 7-1 in the match vs. PainUser). Both Zenio and IdrA have lost to Sen and/or have worse points so Sen will advance unless he loses next week. If he loses next week, however, and IdrA and Zenio both win their coming matches, then Zenio will advance.


Sen has 9 points

idra has 7

if idra 2-0 boxer and sen 0-2, sen passes because he beat idra right?


Yes.

Actually, how many points does Zenio have? Can he still make the finals or is Sen auto-advancing now?

If IdrA 2-0s boxer, he has 11 points. If Sen loses 0-2, he would have 7 points. IdrA would advance.


I hope PU got fined.


IdrA has 5 points

He has 7 after today

If he 2-0 boxer, he has 9, which is the most he can get.

Zenio will take the walk-over vs Painuser and have 10

Sen at the worst will have 9 with idra, but win because of head to head

idra is rank 3 at best


Sen at the worst will have 7, if he loses 0-2 to Socke. He got -1 pt today, bringing him down to 9.

Boxer can get 11 at most, 7 at worst. If he gets 7 and Sen gets 7 he will advance because of HtH.

Zenio will get 10.

IdrA can get 7 at most, 3 at worst.

Right now the person whose advancement they're fighting it out for is Sen. If IdrA falls 0-2 to Boxer there is no way Sen can advance because he will have 11 points at most, versus Boxer's 11, meaning HtH will give Boxer the advancement.

IdrA's score against Boxer and Sen's score against Socke will determine whether Sen advances. His fate is half in IdrA's hands.

IdrA has 7. He can get 9 at most, 5 at worst.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#394
On June 06 2011 13:20 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:19 hiphoppopotomus wrote:
why is everyone freaking out so much about PU no-showing? Sure it's lame and everything but you're acting like he committed a crime when in fact he's just being relatively weird. I think this is around on par with idra telling everyone to fuck off and calling cruncher a waste of life. I don't know it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.


Boxer has to get up super early in the mornings and waited hours apparently.

And this is supposed to be a professional league...

This isn't some clanwar between a bunch of C- newbies...
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Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#395
On June 06 2011 13:19 hiphoppopotomus wrote:
why is everyone freaking out so much about PU no-showing? Sure it's lame and everything but you're acting like he committed a crime when in fact he's just being relatively weird. I think this is around on par with idra telling everyone to fuck off and calling cruncher a waste of life. I don't know it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

It's not literally a crime in a legal sense. But in an ethical sense, not showing up for a match that you signed up for, especially against the most respected figure in the industry, is as bad as committing a crime.
Chainfire99
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada474 Posts
June 06 2011 04:23 GMT
#396
On June 06 2011 13:18 Sami` wrote:
I'm boycotting anything Painuser is involved in, you don't fuck with the emperor and get away with it.


People shouldn't boycott the IPL2 because of a jerk caster.
Vincere Vel Mori
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:26:09
June 06 2011 04:24 GMT
#397
On June 06 2011 13:18 bennyaus wrote:
How does this affect PU's casting career? Get over it. He is an excellent caster. Sure this was not the best way to deal with NASL, but plenty of players have made mistakes like this in the past. Shit happens.

At the very least it shows that he is unprofessional (not playing his matches 3 weeks in a row), and at the very worst it shows his lack of respect for eSports (not telling NASL of his intention to quit the league, standing up BOXER, the father of SC esports, of all people).
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 06 2011 04:25 GMT
#398
On June 06 2011 13:22 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:20 Azarkon wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:13 Mailing wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:11 Thrax wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:08 Azarkon wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:06 Mailing wrote:
On June 06 2011 13:04 Azarkon wrote:
Basically, Zenio, Sen, and IdrA are fighting it out for second spot at the moment (not sure about Boxer but he'll likely go 7-1 in the match vs. PainUser). Both Zenio and IdrA have lost to Sen and/or have worse points so Sen will advance unless he loses next week. If he loses next week, however, and IdrA and Zenio both win their coming matches, then Zenio will advance.


Sen has 9 points

idra has 7

if idra 2-0 boxer and sen 0-2, sen passes because he beat idra right?


Yes.

Actually, how many points does Zenio have? Can he still make the finals or is Sen auto-advancing now?

If IdrA 2-0s boxer, he has 11 points. If Sen loses 0-2, he would have 7 points. IdrA would advance.


I hope PU got fined.


IdrA has 5 points

He has 7 after today

If he 2-0 boxer, he has 9, which is the most he can get.

Zenio will take the walk-over vs Painuser and have 10

Sen at the worst will have 9 with idra, but win because of head to head

idra is rank 3 at best


Sen at the worst will have 7, if he loses 0-2 to Socke. He got -1 pt today, bringing him down to 9.

Boxer can get 11 at most, 7 at worst. If he gets 7 and Sen gets 7 he will advance because of HtH.

Zenio will get 10.

IdrA can get 7 at most, 3 at worst.

Right now the person whose advancement they're fighting it out for is Sen. If IdrA falls 0-2 to Boxer there is no way Sen can advance because he will have 11 points at most, versus Boxer's 11, meaning HtH will give Boxer the advancement.

IdrA's score against Boxer and Sen's score against Socke will determine whether Sen advances. His fate is half in IdrA's hands.

IdrA has 7. He can get 9 at most, 5 at worst.


Yeah, forgot to take into account his wins today. Fixed.
Hamp
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway100 Posts
June 06 2011 04:25 GMT
#399
On June 06 2011 13:19 hiphoppopotomus wrote:
why is everyone freaking out so much about PU no-showing? Sure it's lame and everything but you're acting like he committed a crime when in fact he's just being relatively weird. I think this is around on par with idra telling everyone to fuck off and calling cruncher a waste of life. I don't know it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal.


It wastes the time of everyone involved with the NASL, is incredibly rude to the players who were not selected to participate in the NASL, disrespects Boxer, and it has been going on for quite a bit of time now. At the moment it's more than him "being weird".

And I'm more than just slightly upset because I got up way early in order to catch a Boxer match. He's acting like a real douchebag by doing this, and it is perfectly understandable why people get upset. I'm glad iNcontrol called him out on it.
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 04:26:09
June 06 2011 04:25 GMT
#400
On June 06 2011 13:22 reneg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 13:17 Clicker wrote:
PU BM'd?
I missed it so I'm curious.


InC basically said, Painuser hasn't shown up again, this is the 3rd week in a row, we're extremely disappointed we haven't been able to get in contact with him.

When we try to get in touch with people, we email them, as their time comes up, we call, call their friends, call anyone who might be able to get in touch with them, so if there's a serious scheduling issue, we can address it (in case of emergencies etc). We have been completely unable to contact painuser with any attempt.

then he went on to compare it to a middleschool breakup where you don't know you're broken up with until all of a sudden the girl doesn't call you back anymore and you just come to the realization yourself.

He said he's extremely disappointed and emphasized that it was extremely unprofessional to not even let everyone know that he bailed on us.

he also said that BoxeR was upset because he had to wait for a while, and wasn't allowed to go, even though painuser has a history of being a flake.

That's pretty much it. Anyone feel free to let me know if i missed something.


I would be too. It completely fucks up your day having to wake up that early and your sleeping schedule. I'd be pissed that the guy couldn't inform them and that I had to stay up even longer, which will either leave me to stay up all day as to not fuck up my sleeping schedule or sleep and then wake up with half my day gone.
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