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On May 09 2011 22:05 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 21:55 57 Corvette wrote:
And don't even get me started on IdrA. What is there for you to start on? He's easily one of the best players in the world and no matter how much of a dick he can be, he's a great player.
He has one play style, and if people don't let him get 3 expands up they're cheesers in his eyes
Edit: still one of the best zerg players in the world, just don't like his view on the game
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On May 09 2011 22:05 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 21:55 57 Corvette wrote:
And don't even get me started on IdrA. What is there for you to start on? He's easily one of the best players in the world and no matter how much of a dick he can be, he's a great player.
No, its not that he is not a good player (which he is, not really the best, but good), but it is not his skill holding him back, its his attitude towards ZvP. He constantly criticizes the matchup and blames it for some of his loses, where it is just his mind playing games on him.
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On May 09 2011 21:49 womanman wrote:
i dont understand why all the hype about huk and junro started anyway. plz correct me if im wrong but both of them only have one big tournament win under their belts ( both mlgs so no koreans were there to compete) and ever since most map imbalance was removed jinros tvz has been in a slump. i havent seen his tvt in quiet some time the last i saw was him being manhandled by marinkeing. saying he was the best foreigenr is i think wrong with idra having more tournament wins against korean and foreigenr competitio. (mlg, kotb against tester who was at teh time probs the ebst in the world, and ipl)
He WAS the best foreigner a few months ago. He made it into the R4 of two consecutive GSL's and was consistently beating IdrA. Losing to MKP isn't something to be embarrassed about as he is widely considered to be one of the top 3 terrans in the world and back then, most of the terran players were still figuring out how to deal with MKP's infantry heavy TvT style.
KOTB was all the way back in beta, wasn't it? How does IdrA winning an 8-player invitational in July, 2010 discredit people in calling Jinro the best foreigner around October-February?
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Sad day for TL.
Hopefully Jinro stays in Korea and trains super hard. We need foreigners fighting!!
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Maybe Jinro been feeling homesick and the back up plan been to move in with TLO and them in Stockholm. /end wishful baseless speculation.
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Jinro gotta get his act back together again!
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Sad but expected considering the recent slump for Jinro and Huk. Gl, hf, gg!
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On May 09 2011 22:16 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 21:49 womanman wrote:
i dont understand why all the hype about huk and junro started anyway. plz correct me if im wrong but both of them only have one big tournament win under their belts ( both mlgs so no koreans were there to compete) and ever since most map imbalance was removed jinros tvz has been in a slump. i havent seen his tvt in quiet some time the last i saw was him being manhandled by marinkeing. saying he was the best foreigenr is i think wrong with idra having more tournament wins against korean and foreigenr competitio. (mlg, kotb against tester who was at teh time probs the ebst in the world, and ipl) He WAS the best foreigner a few months ago. He made it into the R4 of two consecutive GSL's and was consistently beating IdrA. Losing to MKP isn't something to be embarrassed about as he is widely considered to be one of the top 3 terrans in the world and back then, most of the terran players were still figuring out how to deal with MKP's infantry heavy TvT style. KOTB was all the way back in beta, wasn't it? How does IdrA winning an 8-player invitational in July, 2010 discredit people in calling Jinro the best foreigner around October-February?
idra won a MLG as well
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wow never saw this one coming.. i'm really sad for Jinro!
He is still one my favs tho but his play seems really lacking but he will figure it out imo!
GSL is tought not just because of the skill level but you try and prepare for your games the best you can and if all fails you just continue practice until next month.. that's got to be really tought for your mind.
GL Jinro i hope you return even better!!
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On May 09 2011 22:41 vojnik wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 22:16 Sein wrote:On May 09 2011 21:49 womanman wrote:
i dont understand why all the hype about huk and junro started anyway. plz correct me if im wrong but both of them only have one big tournament win under their belts ( both mlgs so no koreans were there to compete) and ever since most map imbalance was removed jinros tvz has been in a slump. i havent seen his tvt in quiet some time the last i saw was him being manhandled by marinkeing. saying he was the best foreigenr is i think wrong with idra having more tournament wins against korean and foreigenr competitio. (mlg, kotb against tester who was at teh time probs the ebst in the world, and ipl) He WAS the best foreigner a few months ago. He made it into the R4 of two consecutive GSL's and was consistently beating IdrA. Losing to MKP isn't something to be embarrassed about as he is widely considered to be one of the top 3 terrans in the world and back then, most of the terran players were still figuring out how to deal with MKP's infantry heavy TvT style. KOTB was all the way back in beta, wasn't it? How does IdrA winning an 8-player invitational in July, 2010 discredit people in calling Jinro the best foreigner around October-February? idra won a MLG as well
I'm aware of that. My point was that Jinro actually was the best foreigner from the end of last year to beginning of this year (I will have to change "October" to "November" in my earlier post as for some reason I thought MLG DC was in September. Do you disagree? If so, why?
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Nature has its ways. The weaker ones has to go and the strongest remain. I think both Jinro and HuK will fall down from code-A and leave Korea together with Haypro. Honestly, I don`t see any player with enough dedication and methodical approach to the game to keep up with the koreans, except IdrA.
I think it is definitely time to realize that the koreans are one step ahead, and will always be.
I just want the better players to stay, and that is what happened today. Jinro played like a beast a month or so ago though, oh well.
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On May 09 2011 22:11 57 Corvette wrote:
No, its not that he is not a good player (which he is, not really the best, but good), but it is not his skill holding him back, its his attitude towards ZvP. He constantly criticizes the matchup and blames it for some of his loses, where it is just his mind playing games on him.
Without turning it into a balance debate, I don't see any Zergs out there consistently beating top level Protoss.
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ohh and btw:
oGsMC
IMMvP
also went to code A so it's no shame to loose
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On May 09 2011 22:57 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 22:11 57 Corvette wrote:
No, its not that he is not a good player (which he is, not really the best, but good), but it is not his skill holding him back, its his attitude towards ZvP. He constantly criticizes the matchup and blames it for some of his loses, where it is just his mind playing games on him. Without turning it into a balance debate, I don't see any Zergs out there consistently beating top level Protoss.
Nestea?
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Are foreigners even practicing 12 hours a day like the koreans are? because if they aren't then its probably the difference why korea always dominate gsl. Common guys Koreans work really hard "Rock Lee" style. According to one of Idra's interview he changed teams because he couldn't handle the pressure of high workload.
Even so I wouldn't be studying medicine if it wasn't for the fact that I studied 14 hours a day beforehand for a few years... hard work pays off .... no need to be a genius to be good at the game...
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Sigh, Liquid was 1-0 before I ordered the May season, and are 1-8 since  It's all my fault.
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On May 09 2011 22:56 eoLithic wrote:
Nature has its ways. The weaker ones has to go and the strongest remain. I think both Jinro and HuK will fall down from code-A and leave Korea together with Haypro. Honestly, I don`t see any player with enough dedication and methodical approach to the game to keep up with the koreans, except IdrA.
I think it is definitely time to realize that the koreans are one step ahead, and will always be.
I just want the better players to stay, and that is what happened today. Jinro played like a beast a month or so ago though, oh well.
West don't have best players there. NaNi, Thor, Hasu, Dimaga, Strelok, kas and many others I think would be S class.
idra too of course. He was getting higher every season and is playing better than ever now.
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On May 09 2011 23:05 Quesa wrote:Sigh, Liquid was 1-0 before I ordered the May season, and are 1-8 since It's all my fault.
quick! get a refund before huk's match!
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On May 09 2011 22:58 shell wrote:
ohh and btw:
oGsMC
IMMvP
also went to code A so it's no shame to loose
MC's never been in A
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EPT
