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Madest
Ukraine179 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:13 Morale wrote: Jinro has an account called Checkraise, which is in GM. Actually Dimaga played on this account for couple of weeks while he was in Korea, that was right after ladder reset. Edit: not like this is related to the thread, but whatever. | ||
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Bodzilla
Australia472 Posts
He's been playing like a terran from the first seasons of GSL, and thats just not what you want to be doing this far down the track. Zerg has faced bunker rush harrassment 400 000 times since the initial GSL and well... we're just better at holding it off now. in Game 2 he looked MUCH more stable going into the midgame, and was closer to his original extremely safe, macro oriented face stomping style... he just started to let it slip when his resources kept climbing and he didnt tech into something more robust. i dunno about you guys but a zerg getting his 4th base and getting hive is an insanely difficult thing to deal with... especially if he goes for nydus harrassment AND Ultras/ broodlords AND your only on marine tank. personally when he took his third i would of LOVED to have seen a tech switch into Tank/ banshee/ maruder into BC's. not a huge thing but a gradual transition into a tech thats closer to the level of zenio's. but i think sometimes you just gotta loose like that before you start to do something different and play better :/ | ||
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skcusornij
Bulgaria4 Posts
i mean he openend bunker like everygame and won 1 | ||
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OOAK
Israel53 Posts
I n my opinion Jinro needs to just rest for a while clear his mind, go back home join TLO`s gamers house and from there return strong. Looks like his level of playing is stock while other players just keeps getting better and better. | ||
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skcusornij
Bulgaria4 Posts
i also thought tyler was as good as TL made him out to look. no disrespect im sure he was amazing in bw but his sc2 isnt all that great either | ||
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Bodzilla
Australia472 Posts
what he did to San in Code S with the banshee was brilliant, can you imagine something like that with maruders siege tanks. just think about it. with your maruders and seige tanks you'd only have to hold positions because of how much more robust it is. and if your a little more careful with a sky army you could do poke/yamoto harrassment. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
However, I think that while zerg requires perhaps most multi-tasking over the course of the game, for a terran player it's a lot more difficult to multi-task while also microing. Zerg micro is easier in comparison. Aggressive drop-ship play is always going to be problematic if you don't have the speed/efficiency to save your medivacs while defending against counter-attacks. | ||
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Arimaki
22 Posts
Jinro probably puts a lot of pride into his unique builds, but unfortunately I believe that way of playing right now just gets crushed by superior standard macro play 9/10 times. I think he would be better off training to play a standard game, working on his mechanics. Had he just trained 2rax all this time I believe he would've stood a much better chance today. Perhaps Jinro feels like he has to do something spectacular to win due to the fact that his performance of late has been pretty bad. I really hope he gets his confidence back and starts playing like he used to. Jinro hwaiting!! | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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quiet noise
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skcusornij
Bulgaria4 Posts
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zasda
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:26 skcusornij wrote: oh and one more thing: i think us being frequent readers were all sortof biased towards thinking jinros skill lvl rly was top 4 after finishing there twice but rly it clearly is not. i also thought tyler was as good as TL made him out to look. no disrespect im sure he was amazing in bw but his sc2 isnt all that great either I definitely think he was, that was right after he won an MLG convincingly and his terran back then was all but cheesy/all-inny, it was just solid terran with good macro/execution. Obviously the game has changed since then and I guess he hasn't kept up, but keep in mind Jinro came out of nowhere being considered pretty mediocre and turned out to be the best foreigner for quite some time. I don't see why that couldn't happen again if he sticks to his practice and hard work.. | ||
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quiet noise
599 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:30 skcusornij wrote: oh and also his arrogance rly gets me going. trying to ridicule his opponent with those sunglasses a few weeks back and then getting owned. -.-.-.- i mean let mc or neastea do the ridiculing they got teh skill sto back it up Seriously, this attitude has to go. Im sick and tired of clueless Foreigners who think they know everything about the korean starcraft 2 scene because they watch the GSL. Maybe Keen has roflstomped MC and Nestea on the ladder several times? you dont know anything about whats going on behind the scenes in korea, just because he hasnt won a GSL championship title yet doesnt mean he dont have the right to feel confident. Just because Nestea won GSL 2 doesnt mean he is levitating 10 inches above the ground. There are probably thousands of koreans out there who could beat nestea and MC in a Bo5, they are not superhumans who never lose games, they both probably lose around 40% of their games on the ladder against players of their skill (even flash and jaedong does this) | ||
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Arimaki
22 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:30 skcusornij wrote: oh and also his arrogance rly gets me going. trying to ridicule his opponent with those sunglasses a few weeks back and then getting owned. -.-.-.- i mean let mc or neastea do the ridiculing they got teh skill sto back it up Jinro arrogant? He's probably the 2nd most humble guy in the sc2 scene, the most humble being white-ra of course. I don't think those sunglasses were a way to ridicule his opponent. Frankly I don't know what they were, but perhaps he just liked them? | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1114 Posts
On May 09 2011 21:19 LegendaryZ wrote: The problem is that if they remove themselves from the scene, then they never will and it will only create another BW-like division in skill between the Korean scene and the international scene. Foreigners need to stay in Korea and fight rather than pack it up and leave the moment it feels like they're losing ground. I can understand leaving if it's purely a financial issue (it's expensive to live in a foreign country) or emotional issue where they might have lost their passion for the game, but so long as they're aiming to be the best, they need to be competing against the best. True, but with SC2 kinda exploding in the US and the EU and more and more Koreans getting to grips with planes, I see no reason why instead all this will do is spread out the super high level Koreans world wide, which in turn will make the GSL more open... that my hope anyways | ||
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
I'd actually like to know Nazgul's opinion. At the start of SC2 most of us expected Korea to be the country of Starcraft as it used to be in SC1. However, things changed and ESPORTS in the rest of world developed lot more than we expected, whereas in Korea it developed far less. Of course, GSL is the hottest league in the world with agruably best players in the world, but that's about it. What you gonna do when you're once out of the league... | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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elementz
United States281 Posts
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