On April 18 2011 23:24 Nyx wrote: It doesn't matter, just look at any other inter-university competition, you have one team per university, that's the standard so we have to match it.
Yea, the admins have to match it because its not like they decide what the rules are.
Once all the teams are registered then we can talk balance but first can we just get attendance up.
On April 19 2011 00:28 Tohrazer wrote: nobody seems too stressed open uni has so many potential players, prolly cos we dont have two grand masters i guess :D
OU basically has people everywhere. There's so many potential players it's unreal.
Just thought I'd add, I'm getting on the hype train and I think it might might derail and crash into hype rainbows if I'm not careful.
On April 18 2011 23:24 Nyx wrote: It doesn't matter, just look at any other inter-university competition, you have one team per university, that's the standard so we have to match it.
Yea, the admins have to match it because its not like they decide what the rules are.
You don't force the USA to have multiple olympic teams because it's so big that probability gives it an advantage, so why should we do it to UCL?
On April 18 2011 23:24 Nyx wrote: It doesn't matter, just look at any other inter-university competition, you have one team per university, that's the standard so we have to match it.
Yea, the admins have to match it because its not like they decide what the rules are.
You don't force the USA to have multiple olympic teams because it's so big that probability gives it an advantage, so why should we do it to UCL?
The USA isn't the biggest country in terms of size or even population maybe?
Not really, it was just logged as 'dqed for maphacking', it was pretty obvious though once someone pointed it out and you looked at the replays against him from his camera view that he was making decisions based on information he didnt have.
On April 19 2011 01:44 Vequeth wrote: Not really, it was just logged as 'dqed for maphacking', it was pretty obvious though once someone pointed it out and you looked at the replays against him from his camera view that he was making decisions based on information he didnt have.
yeh im pretty sure it was in one of the 1st maphack threads on this very forum. He didnt just 4 gate as he said he 4 gated and hacked too!! probably proxied on 4p maps too...
On April 18 2011 23:24 Nyx wrote: It doesn't matter, just look at any other inter-university competition, you have one team per university, that's the standard so we have to match it.
Yea, the admins have to match it because its not like they decide what the rules are.
You don't force the USA to have multiple olympic teams because it's so big that probability gives it an advantage, so why should we do it to UCL?
We are talking about this "University of London", not UCL.
On April 19 2011 00:28 Tohrazer wrote: nobody seems too stressed open uni has so many potential players, prolly cos we dont have two grand masters i guess :D
On April 19 2011 01:44 Vequeth wrote: Not really, it was just logged as 'dqed for maphacking', it was pretty obvious though once someone pointed it out and you looked at the replays against him from his camera view that he was making decisions based on information he didnt have.
yeh im pretty sure it was in one of the 1st maphack threads on this very forum. He didnt just 4 gate as he said he 4 gated and hacked too!! probably proxied on 4p maps too...
On April 19 2011 01:44 Vequeth wrote: Not really, it was just logged as 'dqed for maphacking', it was pretty obvious though once someone pointed it out and you looked at the replays against him from his camera view that he was making decisions based on information he didnt have.
yeh im pretty sure it was in one of the 1st maphack threads on this very forum. He didnt just 4 gate as he said he 4 gated and hacked too!! probably proxied on 4p maps too...
I'm from the US, so I don't understand this, but why do you have separate teams for separate colleges within Oxford? In America we have different schools within the University, but for CSL the whole university competes as one.
On April 19 2011 02:10 kakaman wrote: I'm from the US, so I don't understand this, but why do you have separate teams for separate colleges within Oxford? In America we have different schools within the University, but for CSL the whole university competes as one.
Because Oxford is a city that has multiple schools, as is Briston, as is Brighton, as is London.
It's based upon school, not city.
I have been away over the weekend which is why the OP hasn't been updated, I am about to update it with everything I have missed over the weekend.
To everybody asking about the UoL Team, I will allow them to have 7 players, however, once they hit 8 I will have to speak to Gomas about the teams size and player oppitunities (I have done the same with Aberdeen, they decided to split into an A and B team so all the players are able to play).
On April 19 2011 02:10 kakaman wrote: I'm from the US, so I don't understand this, but why do you have separate teams for separate colleges within Oxford? In America we have different schools within the University, but for CSL the whole university competes as one.
Because Oxford is a city that has multiple schools, as is Briston, as is Brighton, as is London.
It's based upon school, not city.
I have been away over the weekend which is why the OP hasn't been updated, I am about to update it with everything I have missed over the weekend.
To everybody asking about the UoL Team, I will allow them to have 7 players, however, once they hit 8 I will have to speak to Gomas about the teams size and player oppitunities (I have done the same with Aberdeen, they decided to split into an A and B team so all the players are able to play).
I want to start by saying what a fantastic job you are doing with this, looking forward to it very much
It shouldn't be about the strength of the side UoL is putting out, it's about being consistent to make it fair.
Oxford do have separate colleges - but they each contain a maximum of 500 undergraduates. So the pool of people to draw from is much smaller than the separate London universities. Therefore we compete as a unified Oxford against other universities.
If each university should have its own team then London universities should have to separate because they are in no way a single university - they offer different degrees to each other from different institutions and separately compete in other university tournaments within different names. Their pool of players is enormous - it is effectively a conglomerate of 19 universities (some admittedly smaller than others) totalling over 120,000 students (according to their website anyway).
The logical reason that universities should be competing together is so that they can field a team - as far as I can work out you only need 3 players for a team and this combined team already have 7 players and would appear to have more in the waiting list. Clearly this isn't the same as Manchester and Man Met where they have 3 people between them.
The UoL team should be split into it's component universities, look for other players like the rest of us within their unis (not London) and then if necessary form teams between two unis - so UCL and Imperial for example if required. But surely the emphasis should be on everyone getting a go at participating and that I'm sure you'll agree that requiring a team of 7 against a minimum of 3 is nonsense.
On April 19 2011 04:12 Joeeigel wrote: I have updated the registered teams aswell as players searching for teams, if I have missed your team please do not hesitate to send me a PM.
After a lengthy discussion between myself and other admins we are abandoning our GSTL allkill style, in favour of a proleague style 1v1.
On April 19 2011 04:12 Joeeigel wrote: I have updated the registered teams aswell as players searching for teams, if I have missed your team please do not hesitate to send me a PM.
After a lengthy discussion between myself and other admins we are abandoning our GSTL allkill style, in favour of a proleague style 1v1.
what, why? But GSTL is so much fun
Its either thay or Gomas and Lau all kill everybody every game.
On April 19 2011 04:12 Joeeigel wrote: I have updated the registered teams aswell as players searching for teams, if I have missed your team please do not hesitate to send me a PM.
After a lengthy discussion between myself and other admins we are abandoning our GSTL allkill style, in favour of a proleague style 1v1.
what, why? But GSTL is so much fun
Its either thay or Gomas and Lau all kill everybody every game.
so now Gomas and Lau play 2 of the 3 games and the team still wins every game, what's the difference?
I'm fairly sure OuL wouldn't be silly enough to put their GMs out first, their other members would want a game too.
The better solution would be to put them in separate teams if they're not from the same uni anyway. I would rather have a lot of GSTL style games, one of which is an all kill, than none at all.
EPT
