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On February 22 2011 01:51 Bowdy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 01:47 Carl_Sagan wrote:I'm amazed about the level of discussion for today's cast. I haven't followed SC for long, but one has always heard about how nice and cool the SC community is, followed and made up of just cosy teddy bears that just love each other and all. Today's cast truly showed that that is so much bullshit. The core of 4chan seems like a better description. Quoted for truth! The sheer level of pointless, immature, often sexist, and egotistical banter going on is only going to deter newcomers from wanting to participate in the starcraft community. nothing bothers me more than kellys immunity from criticism due to her race and gender. She was really really bad. Not because of her race, not because she's a girl. She was incredibly hard to understand when she spoke even a little faster than normal, and her "knowledge" that everyone thinks she has literally consists of "immortals counter roaches so protoss should win" or "roaches counter zealots" and "zerglings counter stalkers". I know we're supposed to keep it out of this thread but nobody else is. This is silly. Most of the previous GSL seasons involved Tasteless talking out of his ass and hoping Artosis didn't call him on it, and if you looked at the body language between them it was hilarious. Tasteless would trail off his sentence and then Artosis would say "well... hmmm... yes but..." because he didn't want to contradict him on live TV.
Kelly is just Tasteless' Tasteless.
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I really loved Huk's play, was great.
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You know, there is a large majority which is opposed to kelly's casting for whatever reasons, but you who aren't sure are doing an ace job painting yourself as some mature, moral highground crowd by consistently saying that the only reason people don't like her is sexism and or racism.
A lot of people think her voice is too hard to understand and that her knowledge of the game overall is laughable. The fact that you can't argue against this without saying anything but "you guys MUST be sexist therefore your argument is invalid! Look at how much of a better human being we are for not disliking someone's performance!" paints a far worse picture of you than it does of us.
I found her cast very poor, and I just had to stop listening to it. I ended up listening to in control just so I could pick up on the laughably bad parts that got remarked on, and since the volume was so low on his half outside the skype call, it was as if you were watching the game with different casters/a mute button active, both options say a lot about how poor a decision it was to hire Kelly.
Regardless, it seems those arguing in her favor have nothing to say but "she's a cute girl i want to HIT THAT!!!", or putting down those who don't like her for some sort of moral highground. The day is over, though, tomorrow is code S, and wednesday, the casts will be muted by a lot of people. Whether GOM intervenes we'll see, but we've tasted what the code A stream will be like now, so any more posts about "wait and see what she's like a month from now", please drop it. Her game knowledge won't improve much because it hasn't yet judging by her track record, and neither will her voice.
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Did anyone else think that this break was too long? I mean there was GSTL in the gap but still, excited to stay up all night for starcraft again!
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Thank god HuK took down Curious. CanadaToss fighting ^^.
@Kelly dealio - Honestly, I don't even want to browse through the last 30-50 LR pages in fear that what people say about the whine is true. Personally, I had no objections other THAN her voice was a little high-pitched for me, and It'll take a bit of time to get used to.
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Did iNcontrol re-stream GSL? I saw a video that had him and his commentary with (I think JP).
Im not complaining, but how would JP and iNcontrol like it when people re-stream MLG or NASL???? Whatever.. just wondering..
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Criticizing any caster is fine. Its the tone and personal attacks that are thrown in that is the problem. Also, most of it is not constructive criticism, its just whining. The fact of the matter is, Kelly is a caster for GOM. She has shown the passion for the game and genuine interest to play and learn more and more about it, but she also has a few shortcomings. It would be a better use of energy to help her get better then rehash the same complaints and whining over and over again. Articulate what you suggest could be changed, compliment what she does well, etc. Like you would any caster or public eSports figure.
Thats the problem.
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So Loner is out, it's a shame he got invited into TSL when there are so many better players than him out there.
Just my opinion, though.
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On February 22 2011 02:34 Pinith wrote: My biggest problem with today's matches wasn't Kelly, rather it was Tasteless not being used to having Artosis's role. We didn't get food counts or reports on important tech buildings/upgrades that we usually get. Kelly ended up seeing some important tech structures before Tastelss did (dark shrine, greater spire). She also ended up calling more of the upgrades, even without a dedicated computer.
I wonder if they'd be better off with Kelly on the dedicated computer where she can at least report upgrades/buildings and tasteless can stick to one role
You're kinda right but it's gonna take some getting used to for both of them, not just for Kelly. You could tell from time to time that Tasteless forgot what he said in the introduction, which is Kelly would be the caster and he'd be the analyst.
They'll get better, I have no doubt. And they were already pretty OK as far as I'm concerned.
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On February 22 2011 02:45 terramagra wrote: Did iNcontrol re-stream GSL? I saw a video that had him and his commentary with (I think JP).
Im not complaining, but how would JP and iNcontrol like it when people re-stream MLG or NASL???? Whatever.. just wondering..
no he just did audio commentary, chill out
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Would you have said that about huk if he had lost?
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Obv I am chill considering I said just wondering. I just thought he put the video on the site I was on.
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On February 22 2011 02:42 koslain wrote: Did anyone else think that this break was too long? I mean there was GSTL in the gap but still, excited to stay up all night for starcraft again!
I think the break till the next GSTL is too long...
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I thought Kelly did a great job. I have no problem understanding her; I like her accent. I also think she demonstrated good game knowledge. I thought her and Tasteless played off each other very well and I am looking forward to more.
She is obviously very excited to be there and is having fun and I like how that comes through in her casting.
Kelly fighting~!
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Any way to watch Huk's interview with VOD's?
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Just wanted to interject:
I think Kelly did a really good job. She looked totally cute, which matters a lot to me, she had good analysis, shared the airtime well, I can totally understand her, everything was great.
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On February 22 2011 03:00 Kammalleri wrote: Any way to watch Huk's interview with VOD's?
Go to the GOM cam section on Gom's site that is where i found it
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Kelly did fine and i wanna see her refining her commentating skill a bit more. Good job overall and keep it up
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