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VeniVidiVpwn
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada19 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7281
I don't understand why you can't land buildings on creep - the creep gives vision so its already a risk to go there. Should zerg being able to passively prevent expansions. Really mattered in that second
Trying to prove that your conclusions should be more drastic
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7282
On October 23 2010 12:48 teamsolid wrote:
These Terran trolls are so annoying, are you gonna complain that PvT is horribly imbalanced too if Boxer loses to his P opponent in Ro32?


they already do
Liquid'Nony: "I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok."
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7283
On October 23 2010 12:43 ComTrav wrote:
I liked Boxer's smile at the end.

"Fruit Dealer, you're pretty good."

"A worthy foe..."
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7284
On October 23 2010 12:46 Lunchtime wrote:
Boxer's micro is so freaking insane, he could probably switch to Protoss and would kick a lot of ass. Imagine trying to snipe one of his Colossi...


IMO terran is the perfect race for him.

That was the greatest set of starcraft 2 matches that I think I've seen. The Emperor of SC1 against the reigning Champion of SC2 in a tvz, not to mention Tasteless, Day9, and Artosis commentating.

How fricken amazing, I had a banana grin on the whole time. Only letdown is that it wasn't 3 games (or 7)!
Gaius Romanus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States48 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7285
I can't believe people are saying they overtweaked zerg. Cool won the last GSL without the buff so why would people think he would have a harder time now that it has come out?
"If a man hasn't discovered something that he will die for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 03:50:00
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7286
MFG i missed teh exibition match just when I went to have dinner god damn!

Please tell me there will be vod
No pain, no gain!
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7287
Guys if any one of the three races fast expands at a gold base, and you don't notice.. your going to lose. Plus, Fruitdealer is the one playing, it's not like me beating Flash.. this imbalanced talk is silly..

anyways I enjoyed the match, can't wait for tomorrows games
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
October 23 2010 03:49 GMT
#7288
Such a great showmatch! Can't wait to see more of Sen tomorrow.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
October 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#7289
On October 23 2010 12:49 VeniVidiVpwn wrote:
I don't understand why you can't land buildings on creep - the creep gives vision so its already a risk to go there. Should zerg being able to passively prevent expansions. Really mattered in that second


That's like asking why terran builds can fly, thus stalling matches.

It's a race mechanic.
adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
October 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#7290
stop theorycrafting in this thread tyia
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lunchtime
Profile Joined August 2010
183 Posts
October 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#7291
Maybe BoxeR could of sent 1 marine to scout every base since he killed fruits natural? Ofc fruit would try to expand again.
Well, he's never going to make that mistake again.
IAttackYou
Profile Joined August 2010
United States330 Posts
October 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#7292
i just had massive nerdgasm from fruitdealer boxer match.
I'm not a nub, I'm gosu of tomorrow
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#7293
As a Z player ZvT was my fav matchup pre-patch - though it felt very punishing to learn as your timings needed to be really crisp and tight, it was overall pretty balanced; I really feel like the supply before barracks change and reaper speed change are whats making the difference now and turning it Z favoured. ZvP feels really nice now but ZvT seems and feels Z favoured; Fruitdealer got away with being so greedy in those games, seems like zerg just has a touch too much room now for the matchup to be fair.

Of course, it could simply be the readjustment as people like Fruitdealer got REALLY good at ZvT prepatch and now it's just downright easier - might be asking too much for Boxer to be able to compete at that level already, though he was definitely really really close. Time will tell if zergs OP or terran strategy development/execution behind I guess. Awesome games all the same.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 23 2010 03:50 GMT
#7294
On October 23 2010 12:49 VeniVidiVpwn wrote:
I don't understand why you can't land buildings on creep - the creep gives vision so its already a risk to go there. Should zerg being able to passively prevent expansions. Really mattered in that second

I kind of agree. You could build on creep previously right? Or at least bunkers? Actually maybe I'm an idiot.
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
October 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#7295
On October 23 2010 12:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 12:49 VeniVidiVpwn wrote:
I don't understand why you can't land buildings on creep - the creep gives vision so its already a risk to go there. Should zerg being able to passively prevent expansions. Really mattered in that second

I kind of agree. You could build on creep previously right? Or at least bunkers? Actually maybe I'm an idiot.


No, you couldn't.
Boundless
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada588 Posts
October 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#7296
On October 23 2010 12:50 IAttackYou wrote:
i just had massive nerdgasm from fruitdealer boxer match.

agree
"Sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace." - Romans 6:14
Zyzxx
Profile Joined September 2010
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-28 07:59:57
October 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#7297
please delete this post
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
October 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#7298
that expo denying with creep is a killer. Boxer never scouted his AMAZING micro just wasn't enough. but it was beautiful.
Somi
Profile Joined August 2010
Pakistan123 Posts
October 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#7299
On October 23 2010 12:48 Gordonbombay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 12:42 Caphe wrote:
Well played by both players. Really show that Korean SC2 is already a big step ahead of foreigners. But its too easy for Zerg to expands now, Terran have nothing to stop them early on, and thats need some fixing.
Terran players need to play a perfect game in order to win while Zerg players just need to play good and can get away with a fews mistake in the process.


If you think comparing boxer and fruitdealer to all koreans is any kind of right, you clearly haven't been watching GSL for the past week. Boxer/fruitdealer games were awesome, fun to watch and clearly between two very very skilled professional players, not something I can say about 75% of the games in ro64 GSL, which is composed of nearly all Koreans.


This.

The game was really on another level.
For the Swarm!
vaelrock
Profile Joined October 2010
France11 Posts
October 23 2010 03:51 GMT
#7300
It misses some 8-10 reapers groups to rape some hatches in 10 in-game seconds.
Didn't see some later game reaper utilization, when it is the most powerfull unit per cost to clearout an undefended expand.
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