RISING League - Page 15

On September 28 2010 09:23 L1F3 wrote:


I'm not gonna be on for most of the night. But I guess I could get on at Midnight my time (2 am EST), and face you. Also, I'm free pretty much tomorrow, after school of course.

On September 28 2010 11:16 Gabeski wrote:


after school and soccer tommorow i'll be free. Around 6:30 ish EST is when i could mostly likely be getting on, i'd be able to play almost anytime after that though so when do you think is best for you?

On September 28 2010 12:14 DuncanIdaho wrote:
Okay, so I'm like super busy with master's research and stuff... Can someone do me the kindness of letting me know the results of every Bo3, since I've received so few emails, and those that I have I don't have the time to go through? :p Ty guys

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On September 28 2010 07:14 DuncanIdaho wrote:


Alright... See, this is why I left things unstructured, as far as the weekly rounds. It would be one thing if someone doesn't show if this were a tournament being held in a specific night. However, that's not the case, and players are free to arrange a time to meet.
I have a few axioms that were in mind when I did structure things as I did, and where i left things unstructured, i did so on purpose, for the most part.

Most important point: I do not want players to win by technicalities (e.g., opponents forfieted games due to inability to show)

Season games are not scheduled at an exact time and date: I wanted this to be somewhat casual, in order to decrease losses due to nerves. I hoped that everyone can be honorable and make the times which they arrange to play, yet I do realize the possibility of real life issues getting in the way, thus the unstructured nature of playing within the week.

Players should make their best attempt to live up to deals made: Although I understand things such as, "I ran into a boss/colleague/professor and had to chit-chat, in order to maintain professional relations, and giving some excuse like, 'Oh, look at the time, I have to go play a video game, I'll catch you later.' Might be inappropriate," or illness, car accidents, bad internet problems, etc. However, things such as, "Oh crap, I forgot, my bad," or frankly, inexcusable.

Although this is meant to be all in good fun, I don't want players abusing the system of kindness, nor abuse technicalities: I really was averse to setting down concrete rules such as forfieting if not arriving within 30min, etc., since players may feel it wise under such conditions to throw up their hands and say, "Well i tried, I'll just be unavailable for any times he/she attempts to make up for the game, and thus I win." Given this possibility, and in light of the "most important point" above, I intend on handling such issues on a case by case scenario, rather than setting forth anything concrete.

Despite the unstructured nature of weekly matches, the finals will be structured: I will coordinate schedules of those going into the finals/semifinals/etc., and we will agree on a date and time to play, and forfeitures will be possible and likely in case of no-shows. Furthermore, any ties or seatings that may change due to incomplete matches from the season weeks will be calculated if there were a possibility of changing the line-ups, such as say, bob has won 20 games, lost 4, and is waiting to play 2 others due to inability to coordinate schedules, but say the 4 in the finals won 21 games, thus making it possible for bobto have entered, then that may be an issue in need of resolution before the finals commence, but we can cross that bridge when/if we get there. However, say bob hasnt played 2 matches, but would need 4 match wins in order to get in, then who cares?

Final Words: Just let me know of any issues, attempt to make up matches later on in the season if you haven't finished/started them, and be honorable, and don't no-show without a good reason and a good apology.

On September 28 2010 19:48 Fluffy1 wrote:
I just wanted to say, I thought that was a great first week I got to play some fun games but more importantly watch a lot of good games and added a lot of people onto my friends list :D

On September 29 2010 03:52 Stoids wrote:
The games should be Bo1 so I can actually get time to cast them. Bo3 is too hard to make time for to cast.

End of the season there's an 8 man playoff, Bo3 up till finals which is Bo5.

Profit??

On September 29 2010 04:18 Fluffy1 wrote:
Yeah I see that casting all three games could be a task, but playing a Bo1 against your opponent would be lame, one cheese and you win for that week or lose. With a Bo3 I can see how the other guy plays and change my play style in the next game.

On September 29 2010 04:39 Stoids wrote:

I would be pretty shocked if you guys cheesed in a GSB league....

Just a suggestions, pretty much having Bo3 makes it impossible to cast because I can't set aside that many hours a week for casting, and I have other obligations right now (UT tourneys, etc).

It would be no different than sports in RL. You play 1 game and that's it. Playoffs are where that changes.

The "change play style" argument is a little overrated. In all the games I casted, for the most part at least, the same strategies were employed by the same player. I actually encourage GSB players to learn 1 strategy for each race and perfect it.

Example, 3 Rax vs. Protoss. If you can perfect that build and have a nice timing push you can win literally 80% of games in GSB v. Protoss. I know P's who 4 gated their way to the top of diamond. Far too often players attempt to replicate the cutesy stuff they see their favorite players doing. At this point having solid macro and 1aing into your opponents base is totally viable. Once you are comfortable with macro and micro components and your APM is a little higher, the amount of builds and strategies open up. Better to be able to execute 3 builds to perfection than it is to know 100 great strategies that you can half ass.

On September 29 2010 07:59 L1F3 wrote:


I feel that we could keep the way its going, but maybe you only have to cast one game? BTW, me vs Gabeski very soon.

On September 29 2010 08:07 Karliath wrote:


signing on now, hope I'm not missing it lol.

On September 29 2010 04:39 Stoids wrote:

I would be pretty shocked if you guys cheesed in a GSB league....

Just a suggestions, pretty much having Bo3 makes it impossible to cast because I can't set aside that many hours a week for casting, and I have other obligations right now (UT tourneys, etc).

It would be no different than sports in RL. You play 1 game and that's it. Playoffs are where that changes.

The "change play style" argument is a little overrated. In all the games I casted, for the most part at least, the same strategies were employed by the same player. I actually encourage GSB players to learn 1 strategy for each race and perfect it.

Example, 3 Rax vs. Protoss. If you can perfect that build and have a nice timing push you can win literally 80% of games in GSB v. Protoss. I know P's who 4 gated their way to the top of diamond. Far too often players attempt to replicate the cutesy stuff they see their favorite players doing. At this point having solid macro and 1aing into your opponents base is totally viable. Once you are comfortable with macro and micro components and your APM is a little higher, the amount of builds and strategies open up. Better to be able to execute 3 builds to perfection than it is to know 100 great strategies that you can half ass.