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Gont
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany239 Posts
August 19 2010 13:42 GMT
#441
thx for posting the interview with idra...nice to hear what he thinks about his opponents =)

cheering for dimaga now...hopefully he still makes it
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 13:42:44
August 19 2010 13:42 GMT
#442
On August 19 2010 22:34 JWD wrote:
In case anyone missed it, here's an interview with IdrA before his games today:
classic ("he didn't do anything to win the game")

anyone else eager to see IdrA get on stage and be asked about ZvT??



Absolutely. But madfrog didn't really do anything to win the third set though.


"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 13:44:06
August 19 2010 13:42 GMT
#443
lol, hasuobs played pretty weirdly.
You go +1 forge and THEN don't take any more upgrades?
2 templar can feedback 4-8 corruptors, (he only got 4 before dimaga copped on) yet he got 6 and didn't storm just went and morphed then into archons. Coulda had more colossus.
DT distraction I do myself in PvZ, oldest trick in the book.
Massing minerals doing a 4 warpgate dimaga should have died there.

Sure, dimaga probably should have gotten hive and maybe faster 4th because roaches and hydars are both really bad at 200/200 vs any kind of aoe attack as you see, but I see nothing that hasuobs did that your average 800-900 point diamond player couldn't have done, in fact most probably could have won with the +1 4 warpgate against a hydra build like that. And then finishing with pure stalker colossus using the stalkers to kill corruptors and just have like 3-4 more colossus instead of massing gas on templar and no upgrades at all.

Was impressed killing the first nydus, but hasuobs said it was a fluke, the rest was just watching the minimap and pulling probes into an easy win.
Philosophy
Profile Joined May 2010
186 Posts
August 19 2010 13:42 GMT
#444
IdrA 2-1 Nani
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
August 19 2010 13:43 GMT
#445
Hm demuslim really performed under his normal play. Hope will make it through somehow.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 13:43:24
August 19 2010 13:43 GMT
#446
On August 19 2010 22:42 Gont wrote:
thx for posting the interview with idra...nice to hear what he thinks about his opponents =)

cheering for dimaga now...hopefully he still makes it

Actually I just noticed the interview is linked in the OP. Got to watch those others linked there too!
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balosan
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland232 Posts
August 19 2010 13:43 GMT
#447
On August 19 2010 22:41 NonFactor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 22:31 balosan wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:30 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:28 RandomBS wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:26 Phayze wrote:
Kinda BS to be honest. despite not going hive Dimaga had that game. he's probably going to be switching to terran very soon. Such BS IMO. Zerg needs help.


IMO you have no idea what you are talking about. He played worse, simple as that. Quit rationalizing your bad with "lol imba".

hasuobs had 900 minerals durign 4 gate and 1-0-0 after 30 minutes.
Hasuobs played bad, dimaga played brilliantly.
I dont understand how he managed to defend like that. That defense was the best defense i ever saw.
Dimaga is just one level above everyone else but, perhaps, koreans.





Dimaga refused to adapt. He just thought that hydra roach in good count will defeat any tier 3 army toss can throw and umm he was wrong.


That's not true. Dimaga simply didn't have the resources to ''go tier 3'' You do realize that the two tier 3 units that Zerg has are Ultralisks / Broodlords, both which are amazingly expensive? 3-4 Ultras wouldn't have mattered at all during that last fight. He had immortals. If there is a death ball against Zerg, that is it. Storm, Immortals and mass Stalker. Only Broodlords abusing cliff in heavy numbers can deal with that efficiently. And he couldn't go for tier 3 earlier. He could barely afford upgrades it seemed.

Dimaga needed to use all of his resources to simply stay alive. Hasuobs totally failed to micro his Colossus on his attack too, allowed them to be picked off, yet it was a very very close fight, despite Dimaga spending all of his cash and Hasu skyrocketing each time.

Also since Hasu was so smart when it came to sniping creep, Dimaga couldn't really advance. Roaches melt against Storm and Stalkers. And without creep, Hydras are completely useless against Storm. So he had no real other choice then just sit and defend mainly because Hasuobs army > Dimagas army, especially without creep. Only thing Dimaga had was that narrow area, and hopes that he could destroy Hasu's army with positional advantage.


Yes, u could be right, he may feel that there is still oportunity for hasu to push and the only way to protect is to throw cheap roach/hydra. But still im not sure how would game ended if he went for mass muta/tier3.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 19 2010 13:43 GMT
#448
On August 19 2010 22:42 Brad wrote:
People looking for results, look at the OP.


Why thank you, kind sir.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 19 2010 13:43 GMT
#449
On August 19 2010 22:41 balosan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 22:38 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:36 balosan wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:33 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:31 balosan wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:30 Sfydjklm wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:28 RandomBS wrote:
On August 19 2010 22:26 Phayze wrote:
Kinda BS to be honest. despite not going hive Dimaga had that game. he's probably going to be switching to terran very soon. Such BS IMO. Zerg needs help.


IMO you have no idea what you are talking about. He played worse, simple as that. Quit rationalizing your bad with "lol imba".

hasuobs had 900 minerals durign 4 gate and 1-0-0 after 30 minutes.
Hasuobs played bad, dimaga played brilliantly.
I dont understand how he managed to defend like that. That defense was the best defense i ever saw.
Dimaga is just one level above everyone else but, perhaps, koreans.





Dimaga refused to adapt. He just thought that hydra roach in good count will defeat any tier 3 army toss can throw and umm he was wrong.

dimaga lost at that 4 gate push. He fell behind a ton and he missed his counter attack window.
He just delayed losing by playing insanely well.


Terrible Hasu macro made him not falling too far behind, in my opinion he lost due to wrong tech choices (read roach/hydra vs colosus templar). How can u say he "dealyed losing" if he was ahead in food count for majority of mid-late game.

Zerg being ahead in supply oftentimes means zerg has a weaker army because of all the 2 supply units and their effectiveness.


Yeah, thats true but he was 200/200 way earlier and im not trying to say that he was ahead because of that, but that if he made slighlty diferent decisions he would be in much better position since he wasnt playing from behind.

he was way behind i do not understand how dimaga managed to stay in for this long.
and i am only slightly bad at this game.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50643 Posts
August 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#450
sc2.tv is streaming in HQ again.
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Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
August 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#451
On August 19 2010 22:34 JWD wrote:
In case anyone missed it, here's an interview with IdrA before his games today:



classic ("he didn't do anything to win the game")

anyone else eager to see IdrA get on stage and be asked about ZvT??

Is it me or does the interviewer remind me of Bruno?
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#452
On August 19 2010 22:43 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2010 22:42 Brad wrote:
People looking for results, look at the OP.


Why thank you, kind sir.

lol it really shouldn't take a post to say "look at OP"

especially when the OP has a huge section titled "RESULTS"!
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RmpL
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany263 Posts
August 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#453
Dimaga v. Lucifron starting now on esl stream.
Killver
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria88 Posts
August 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#454
lucifrons shoes and trousers look so fcking bad :D
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51563 Posts
August 19 2010 13:44 GMT
#455
love lucifron's sandals
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
August 19 2010 13:45 GMT
#456
That interviewer is carmac btw lol. Also its wierd to see Dimaga and Lucifron both lose in the first round.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 13:45:59
August 19 2010 13:45 GMT
#457
I love Dimaga and Whitera: they look like bouncers who'd door a strip club. Seriously, so much love to Ukraine.

Haha, the interviewer likes Dimaga. <3
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
August 19 2010 13:45 GMT
#458
On August 19 2010 22:42 Slayer91 wrote:
lol, hasuobs played pretty weirdly.
You go +1 forge and THEN don't take any more upgrades?
2 templar can feedback 4-8 corruptors, (he only got 4 before dimaga copped on) yet he got 6 and didn't storm just went and morphed then into archons. Coulda had more colossus.
DT distraction I do myself in PvZ, oldest trick in the book.
Massing minerals doing a 4 warpgate dimaga should have died there.

Sure, dimaga probably should have gotten hive and maybe faster 4th because roaches and hydars are both really bad at 200/200 vs any kind of aoe attack as you see, but I see nothing that hasuobs did that your average 800-900 point diamond player couldn't have done, in fact most probably could have won with the +1 4 warpgate against a hydra build like that. And then finishing with pure stalker colossus using the stalkers to kill corruptors and just have like 3-4 more colossus instead of massing gas on templar and no upgrades at all.

Was impressed killing the first nydus, but hasuobs said it was a fluke, the rest was just watching the minimap and pulling probes into an easy win.

absolute truth.
Was Hasuobs macroing well he woulda won with that 4 gate.
Granted it's not as much racial imbalance as a much it is a testament to how horrible of a map blistering sands is.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Nuage
Profile Joined August 2010
France61 Posts
August 19 2010 13:45 GMT
#459
On August 19 2010 22:42 Philosophy wrote:
IdrA 2-1 Nani
Go Idra go !
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
August 19 2010 13:45 GMT
#460
On August 19 2010 22:42 Philosophy wrote:
IdrA 2-1 Nani

thanks

go idra!
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