HDH Invitational #1 - Page 146

On April 29 2010 10:14 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I love Zergings ^^

On April 29 2010 10:03 domobo wrote:
This thread has caused me to register. This tourney is so awesome. Thanks so much for all the work you guys have done for the game.



Please understand that I am totally aware that I am new here and that anything I say will be taken with a grain of salt (as it should be). If I'm honest this post makes me a little angry. It comes off to me as arrogant. Yes you may know a lot more about the game then many others, including myself, but that is irrelevant.

The sponsors don't care how much knowledge of the game the casters have, they only care about how many people hear about there company. The players don't care about the ability of the casters to pronounce specific units in the game they mostly care about the prize pool. The vast majority of people who watch the games don't care in the slightest if the casters "have a good understanding of the game" they only care that they are entertained by the tourney.

In fact I can't think of many people who care about the things you are complaining about.

Your example asked how many people would care if Madden started calling a football a foosball. I don't think many people would care. Madden was loved for his personality more then for his knowledge of the game. What about Al Michaels, who never played or coached, but was still very popular. Should he not of picked up a mike?

I don't really understand why your commenting at all. If the casts annoy you so much why are you watching? Why do you care enough to make several posts in this thread? I can't believe that you are trying to give constructive criticism, because there is nothing constructive about what you are saying, it is all negative.

This game is brand new. Actually less then brand new; it's still in beta. There is no precedent for how a caster should behave. Your statements are simply based on nothing. You have no authority to say what kind of casting is good or bad. If anything HD and Husky have more authority then you do as they sometimes get over 100,000 views on there videos and as far as I know you do not cast at all. Being a good player does not make you a good caster (Just look at all the crap people on espn who are only there because they played in the NFL).

Maybe this is getting off topic and if it is I am sorry, but the arrogance of your statements really did set me off. These guys are bringing starcraft to the west. The number of viewers they get is unparalleled for any esport in the west. And you are complaining because Husky didn't say zergling the way you want. Stop trying to inflate your ego by putting others who are succeeding down.

On April 29 2010 03:21 -orb- wrote:


Actually I watched the replay and he didn't even start the second queen until he spotted the proxy. Thus I would have arrived at his base with 2 void rays versus one queen and no other means of anti-air with well over a minute before any hydralisks would come out.

On April 29 2010 10:32 Tankoz wrote:


I think you're missing the point. Yes, there is a difference between putting something down and constructive criticism. Pointing out problems with casting without being malicious should be welcomed, because without it, there is no way they can improve. I also reject the idea that the "vast majority" of people who watch games don't care. You might not care, someone else could, you can't really back that statement up.

How a caster should behave is not related to the facts\predictions they make. If it is obvious that they are not picking up on a certain strategy or pointing out something factually incorrect, it is the duty of those who know to educate them on these things. That way, they can incorporate these ideas into their next casts, and just like the game they are playing, improve. I personally enjoy their commentry, but I would also like at least one other person there who knows the game inside out, so I can understand exactly what is going on because knowing that information increases my enjoyment of it even more.

On April 29 2010 10:46 IdrA wrote:

that was the third queen starting, i already had 2 out.

On April 29 2010 10:03 domobo wrote:
This thread has caused me to register. This tourney is so awesome. Thanks so much for all the work you guys have done for the game.



Please understand that I am totally aware that I am new here and that anything I say will be taken with a grain of salt (as it should be). If I'm honest this post makes me a little angry. It comes off to me as arrogant. Yes you may know a lot more about the game then many others, including myself, but that is irrelevant.

The sponsors don't care how much knowledge of the game the casters have, they only care about how many people hear about there company. The players don't care about the ability of the casters to pronounce specific units in the game they mostly care about the prize pool. The vast majority of people who watch the games don't care in the slightest if the casters "have a good understanding of the game" they only care that they are entertained by the tourney.

In fact I can't think of many people who care about the things you are complaining about.

Your example asked how many people would care if Madden started calling a football a foosball. I don't think many people would care. Madden was loved for his personality more then for his knowledge of the game. What about Al Michaels, who never played or coached, but was still very popular. Should he not of picked up a mike?

I don't really understand why your commenting at all. If the casts annoy you so much why are you watching? Why do you care enough to make several posts in this thread? I can't believe that you are trying to give constructive criticism, because there is nothing constructive about what you are saying, it is all negative.

This game is brand new. Actually less then brand new; it's still in beta. There is no precedent for how a caster should behave. Your statements are simply based on nothing. You have no authority to say what kind of casting is good or bad. If anything HD and Husky have more authority then you do as they sometimes get over 100,000 views on there videos and as far as I know you do not cast at all. Being a good player does not make you a good caster (Just look at all the crap people on espn who are only there because they played in the NFL).

Maybe this is getting off topic and if it is I am sorry, but the arrogance of your statements really did set me off. These guys are bringing starcraft to the west. The number of viewers they get is unparalleled for any esport in the west. And you are complaining because Husky didn't say zergling the way you want. Stop trying to inflate your ego by putting others who are succeeding down.

On April 29 2010 11:13 Wargizmo wrote:
Well said.

Sometimes a funny accent or way of pronouncing something can actually become a trademark of a particular commentator. In Australia our most famous cricket commentator Richie Benaud can't pronounce the word "two" properly but it's become one of his most endearing characteristics.

I'd rather my commentators be actual human beings that have quirks like the rest of us than robots who know 10000 build orders but have the personality of a toilet seat.

On April 29 2010 10:03 domobo wrote:
This thread has caused me to register. This tourney is so awesome. Thanks so much for all the work you guys have done for the game.



Please understand that I am totally aware that I am new here and that anything I say will be taken with a grain of salt (as it should be). If I'm honest this post makes me a little angry. It comes off to me as arrogant. Yes you may know a lot more about the game then many others, including myself, but that is irrelevant.

The sponsors don't care how much knowledge of the game the casters have, they only care about how many people hear about there company. The players don't care about the ability of the casters to pronounce specific units in the game they mostly care about the prize pool. The vast majority of people who watch the games don't care in the slightest if the casters "have a good understanding of the game" they only care that they are entertained by the tourney.

In fact I can't think of many people who care about the things you are complaining about.

Your example asked how many people would care if Madden started calling a football a foosball. I don't think many people would care. Madden was loved for his personality more then for his knowledge of the game. What about Al Michaels, who never played or coached, but was still very popular. Should he not of picked up a mike?

I don't really understand why your commenting at all. If the casts annoy you so much why are you watching? Why do you care enough to make several posts in this thread? I can't believe that you are trying to give constructive criticism, because there is nothing constructive about what you are saying, it is all negative.

This game is brand new. Actually less then brand new; it's still in beta. There is no precedent for how a caster should behave. Your statements are simply based on nothing. You have no authority to say what kind of casting is good or bad. If anything HD and Husky have more authority then you do as they sometimes get over 100,000 views on there videos and as far as I know you do not cast at all. Being a good player does not make you a good caster (Just look at all the crap people on espn who are only there because they played in the NFL).

Maybe this is getting off topic and if it is I am sorry, but the arrogance of your statements really did set me off. These guys are bringing starcraft to the west. The number of viewers they get is unparalleled for any esport in the west. And you are complaining because Husky didn't say zergling the way you want. Stop trying to inflate your ego by putting others who are succeeding down.

On April 29 2010 12:51 deth2munkies wrote:
My predictions:

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