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QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
April 29 2010 04:54 GMT
#2921
If people are concerned about spoiling the results of the tourny thus far they really should just avoid the thread that exists for discussing the tournament...
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 29 2010 04:55 GMT
#2922
On April 29 2010 10:46 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 03:21 -orb- wrote:
On April 29 2010 03:02 condoriano wrote:
On April 29 2010 02:58 purpose wrote:
maphack ftw!

Those two zergling scouts was the decider tbh.


Not at all, he was going to hold off 1st void ray with 2 queens and he had his hydra den morphing already. Lair wasn't late or anything.


Actually I watched the replay and he didn't even start the second queen until he spotted the proxy. Thus I would have arrived at his base with 2 void rays versus one queen and no other means of anti-air with well over a minute before any hydralisks would come out.

that was the third queen starting, i already had 2 out.


You were obviously very dominant in Games 1 and 3.

But what happened in Game 2?
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
April 29 2010 04:56 GMT
#2923
On April 29 2010 11:13 Wargizmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 10:03 domobo wrote:
This thread has caused me to register. This tourney is so awesome. Thanks so much for all the work you guys have done for the game.

On April 29 2010 07:08 Kennigit wrote:
On April 29 2010 07:02 ELA wrote:
*EDIT* Failed at the quotes, cleaning them out.

Yes, the reply was a response to this:

On April 29 2010 04:38 Kennigit wrote:
This is why its important for commentators to have a good understanding of the game.


On April 29 2010 04:34 Kennigit wrote:
Someone please tell husky that they are called Zerglings. Is he ignoring the L for a reason?


I agree I could have gotten it wrong, as I was reading that post, it just seemed overly negative in my opinnion and I didn't actually read his later post, where he's basicly saying the same things that I am about the different targets of audiences and the balance between commentating skill versus high level of game knowledge.

It was a legitimate question and statement. What would happen if John Madden started calling a football a foosball. "Sorry guys i just do that"...do you think viewers would react? Do you think no one should point it out because he's doing a good thing commentating?


I just keep seeing these small hints from established casters/participants in the TL community (Not exclusive TL representatives) that HD and Husky are 'stealing their thunder' somehow, and I felt I had to comment on that.

Stealing who's thunder? TL's or casters?
If we thought that, why would the event be added to the calendar and have a 140 page thread dedicated to it. dont. talk. shit.



No doubt that TL has done loads for the community and for E-sports, I think therefor I will stop hijacking this thread before it becomes completely OT.

Yeah, let's drop it


Please understand that I am totally aware that I am new here and that anything I say will be taken with a grain of salt (as it should be). If I'm honest this post makes me a little angry. It comes off to me as arrogant. Yes you may know a lot more about the game then many others, including myself, but that is irrelevant.

The sponsors don't care how much knowledge of the game the casters have, they only care about how many people hear about there company. The players don't care about the ability of the casters to pronounce specific units in the game they mostly care about the prize pool. The vast majority of people who watch the games don't care in the slightest if the casters "have a good understanding of the game" they only care that they are entertained by the tourney.

In fact I can't think of many people who care about the things you are complaining about.

Your example asked how many people would care if Madden started calling a football a foosball. I don't think many people would care. Madden was loved for his personality more then for his knowledge of the game. What about Al Michaels, who never played or coached, but was still very popular. Should he not of picked up a mike?

I don't really understand why your commenting at all. If the casts annoy you so much why are you watching? Why do you care enough to make several posts in this thread? I can't believe that you are trying to give constructive criticism, because there is nothing constructive about what you are saying, it is all negative.

This game is brand new. Actually less then brand new; it's still in beta. There is no precedent for how a caster should behave. Your statements are simply based on nothing. You have no authority to say what kind of casting is good or bad. If anything HD and Husky have more authority then you do as they sometimes get over 100,000 views on there videos and as far as I know you do not cast at all. Being a good player does not make you a good caster (Just look at all the crap people on espn who are only there because they played in the NFL).

Maybe this is getting off topic and if it is I am sorry, but the arrogance of your statements really did set me off. These guys are bringing starcraft to the west. The number of viewers they get is unparalleled for any esport in the west. And you are complaining because Husky didn't say zergling the way you want. Stop trying to inflate your ego by putting others who are succeeding down.



Well said.

Sometimes a funny accent or way of pronouncing something can actually become a trademark of a particular commentator. In Australia our most famous cricket commentator Richie Benaud can't pronounce the word "two" properly but it's become one of his most endearing characteristics.

I'd rather my commentators be actual human beings that have quirks like the rest of us than robots who know 10000 build orders but have the personality of a toilet seat.



couldnt have said so myself better
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 29 2010 05:16 GMT
#2924
when can we expect vods for the newest games?
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 29 2010 05:16 GMT
#2925
On April 29 2010 13:55 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 10:46 IdrA wrote:
On April 29 2010 03:21 -orb- wrote:
On April 29 2010 03:02 condoriano wrote:
On April 29 2010 02:58 purpose wrote:
maphack ftw!

Those two zergling scouts was the decider tbh.


Not at all, he was going to hold off 1st void ray with 2 queens and he had his hydra den morphing already. Lair wasn't late or anything.


Actually I watched the replay and he didn't even start the second queen until he spotted the proxy. Thus I would have arrived at his base with 2 void rays versus one queen and no other means of anti-air with well over a minute before any hydralisks would come out.

that was the third queen starting, i already had 2 out.


You were obviously very dominant in Games 1 and 3.

But what happened in Game 2?

when i play on us server i get roughly bnet1 high latency, and it doesnt affect my opponent's latency as far as i know. that makes stopping rushes about a billion times harder than usual, and its the reason my hatch died instead of being cancelled the 2nd time.
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Tenrou
Profile Joined March 2010
United States38 Posts
April 29 2010 05:27 GMT
#2926
Will the replays be made available to the public after each round or after the tournament is over?
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
April 29 2010 05:27 GMT
#2927
I think it's pretty ridiculous to actually be upset over the mispronunciation of "Zergling." It hardly makes an impact whatsoever.

On the other hand, it is a fair to critique them for (at times) grossly generalizing statements. And I think they do need to balance the amount of time they spend casting with actual time played. They need to familiarize themselves with the meta-game, especially a beta that is constantly evolving. Though at the same time, it's important to understand that they probably have a lot to worry about at the moment.

Either way, if you're not finding their casts enjoyable, just mute them and talk to yourself.

Keep up the work guys! There are plenty of people like me who appreciate this and anticipate the rest of the games. Hooray for wasting time during finals week! :D
Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Whyx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States73 Posts
April 29 2010 05:46 GMT
#2928
Loved the round of 16, and as always excellent casting from HD and Husky. Plenty of drama, exciting moves, and crazy strats you'd never see at lower levels.

Lookin forward to seeing who'll take home first place in the tournament =]
The Golden Sun will rise again...
Euphoric
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada49 Posts
April 29 2010 05:56 GMT
#2929
To quote shakespeare...

Haters gonna hate.
The grass is always greener where the dogs are shitting
purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
April 29 2010 06:12 GMT
#2930
How can people expect others to not talk about the games in the game topic? We cant put in spoilertaggs in every singel post, what a mess to read the topic it would be then.

If you did not watch the games, and are waiting for the vods, just read the first page, or look at the youtube channel and dont read the topic.
Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
April 29 2010 07:03 GMT
#2931
Was checking youtube didn't see the new games on it when can we expect them? Hurry please!
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Moonquake
Profile Joined April 2010
United States36 Posts
April 29 2010 07:30 GMT
#2932
On April 29 2010 14:27 Klamity wrote:
Keep up the work guys! There are plenty of people like me who appreciate this and anticipate the rest of the games. Hooray for wasting time during finals week! :D


Glad to see somebody else is putting off finals too. Anybody else running the tourney stream in the background while studying?
Doomswitch
Profile Joined April 2010
United States14 Posts
April 29 2010 07:35 GMT
#2933
On April 29 2010 16:03 Squallcloud wrote:
Was checking youtube didn't see the new games on it when can we expect them? Hurry please!


Seconded.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
April 29 2010 07:58 GMT
#2934
IdrA Korea (South). April 29 2010 14:16. Posts 10348 PM Profile Blog Quote #

when i play on us server i get roughly bnet1 high latency, and it doesnt affect my opponent's latency as far as i know. that makes stopping rushes about a billion times harder than usual, and its the reason my hatch died instead of being cancelled the 2nd time.



How does this work exactly? I thought there was something in place to make the latency on both sides the same, to keep it fair. I read R1CH's thread about SC2 networking, but the vast majority of it(like most of what R1CH says) went over my head.

If it is different for the two sides, that is definitely a huge fairness issue. Playing with really high latency is so much harder and would be a big disadvantage I imagine.
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voiDude
Profile Joined April 2010
South Africa18 Posts
April 29 2010 08:19 GMT
#2935
I live in South Africa and play on European Bnet servers, I use a proxy app to connect with SC2 that lowers my latency to playable levels (generally about 200ms).

Perhaps the tournament organisers should look into something similair for future transatlantic matchups, to level the playing field? I can't imagine what it's like for a high level SC2 player to be crippled by high latencies. Must be infuriating as hell.

(From SA to American Westcoast\Eastcoast servers I get about double my ping to Euro servers though.)
"It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are." Teh_Masterer
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
April 29 2010 08:26 GMT
#2936
First of all i would like to thank Husky and HD for the time and effort they put in to this.


Its allways great to see people working and trying to make stuff happen not because they just want to make money but because they love it.

I allso loved yesterdays matches.


That being said, there is allways room for improvement.

- The on the spot interviews are a good idea but, you need to make that smoother. You guys know when the replay is about to finish. Let one of you allready start contacting the guy you want to interview so that you can start right after the replay.
- As stated in the Live stream, the sponsor cares more about the youtube channel then the live, perhaps during downtime between 2 matches, u could make some sort of promo for the sponser so that the live would get more intresting for him.
- You are ofc trying really hard to make stuff work as smooth as possible. During that process you must understand that you are not alone. Somebody allready had all the problems you are having, they fixed it or found a way to work around it, ask them for help, they to have a passion and they will be more then willing to share.
- I understand that your inet has limitations so you coudnt improve the quality. As i see it, not all the money from the sponsor HAS to be prize money. If you are going to pursue this and make it as best as possible, i see no reason why not a % can be invested in better quatilty stream.



Overall, very good job and a big big thanks looking forward to next matches.


Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 08:30:53
April 29 2010 08:30 GMT
#2937
I am going to be uploading one game tonight as I cant stand to be awake any more.

I'm rendering the next 5 games and will hopefully have those up tomorrow. Depending on when I wake up I may be able to get the last 3 games handed off to HD for his upload, but they will all be up within 2 days max.

If you're f5ing our pages, I would recommend waiting a day or so
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 29 2010 08:32 GMT
#2938
On April 29 2010 17:30 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I am going to be uploading one game tonight as I cant stand to be awake any more.

I'm rendering the next 5 games and will hopefully have those up tomorrow. Depending on when I wake up I may be able to get the last 3 games handed off to HD for his upload, but they will all be up within 2 days max.

If you're f5ing our pages, I would recommend waiting a day or so


Thanks!
One can only avoid spoilers for so long
KTY
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 08:37:36
April 29 2010 08:37 GMT
#2939
Husky is weaksauce! Sleep lol
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
April 29 2010 08:38 GMT
#2940
BTW i just wanted to say that the results page is now up and running
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
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