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Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 08 2018 14:22 GMT
#1721
On February 08 2018 13:07 dHsn wrote:
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Have to say, thanks for the wealth of information Pursuit_. I've been using that TvP Innovation Mech build you posted awhile back and it's been working pretty well for me.

Thank you again for your insight.


Please, share the build.


On December 21 2017 04:47 Pursuit_ wrote:
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On December 21 2017 04:38 MockHamill wrote:
Has anyone found a safe opening for mech in TvP?


I've been using this build and TvP has been arguably my best matchup recently.


It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 10 2018 21:22 GMT
#1722
What's the best response to Swarm Hosts as a meching player?

I've been blindsided by them a couple of times and I was thinking about appropriate response, but I was curious as to what you guys suggest before I draw conclusions of my own.

Thanks in advance!
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
February 10 2018 22:04 GMT
#1723
Anyone who needs help...

I think terran is tough. But tvz you have to be aggro as shit. Don't let me mine son.
Zerg for Life
ihatevideogames
Profile Joined August 2015
570 Posts
February 10 2018 22:43 GMT
#1724
On February 11 2018 06:22 Frudgey wrote:
What's the best response to Swarm Hosts as a meching player?

I've been blindsided by them a couple of times and I was thinking about appropriate response, but I was curious as to what you guys suggest before I draw conclusions of my own.

Thanks in advance!

I insta-leave the game when I see them. I play the game for fun and SHs just suck all the fun out of it.
Same with TvP, it's not fun at all atm so I just insta-leave every tvp.
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
February 11 2018 06:33 GMT
#1725
Where is the best place to find build orders and replays and all of that? Haven't played in 5 years but I'm having a lot of trouble getting up to speed due to lack of content.

Spawning pool is the only place I could find
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
February 11 2018 07:34 GMT
#1726
On February 11 2018 06:22 Frudgey wrote:
What's the best response to Swarm Hosts as a meching player?

I've been blindsided by them a couple of times and I was thinking about appropriate response, but I was curious as to what you guys suggest before I draw conclusions of my own.

Thanks in advance!


Personally I go for lots of hellions / hellbats with a few medivacs to heal and a couple thors to add some extra damage.
In Somnis Veritas
WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
February 11 2018 11:09 GMT
#1727
On February 11 2018 06:22 Frudgey wrote:
What's the best response to Swarm Hosts as a meching player?

I've been blindsided by them a couple of times and I was thinking about appropriate response, but I was curious as to what you guys suggest before I draw conclusions of my own.

Thanks in advance!


Keep hellbats in your army to delete broodlings once they land, keep some thors to delete broodlings before they land. Once you've cleared out the broodlings you're free to push up because a significant amount of his army is now busy recharging and cannot attack. The worst thing you can do is just sit there, and if his army sans the swarm host is large enough to defeat yours then you would've been done for anyway if he chose to spend his resources and pop on anything else than swarmhost really...
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
February 11 2018 11:26 GMT
#1728
On February 11 2018 20:09 WaesumNinja wrote:
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On February 11 2018 06:22 Frudgey wrote:
What's the best response to Swarm Hosts as a meching player?

I've been blindsided by them a couple of times and I was thinking about appropriate response, but I was curious as to what you guys suggest before I draw conclusions of my own.

Thanks in advance!


Keep hellbats in your army to delete broodlings once they land, keep some thors to delete broodlings before they land. Once you've cleared out the broodlings you're free to push up because a significant amount of his army is now busy recharging and cannot attack. The worst thing you can do is just sit there, and if his army sans the swarm host is large enough to defeat yours then you would've been done for anyway if he chose to spend his resources and pop on anything else than swarmhost really...

I think this is a bad idea. The Zerg player will just wait until the swarmhosts recharge and maybe sacrifice 1-2 bases in the process and then swoop with his army + the locusts in and kill your army. Then the game is over because you can't rebuild your army with locusts swooping in every 30 seconds (or whatever the timer is) and resetting it.
The better approach imo is to go for lots of harass like thor drops and hellion runbys and try to outharass him while aggressively hunting down the swarmhosts with your hellion force. If Swarmhosts have one weakness it's dealing with harass.
Still difficult to win though and it's the reason why I play mostly bio. Just attacking with your army is suicide though.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
February 11 2018 17:05 GMT
#1729
On February 11 2018 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
I think this is a bad idea. The Zerg player will just wait until the swarmhosts recharge and maybe sacrifice 1-2 bases in the process and then swoop with his army + the locusts


If he does that then you would just be right where you started, except he's now 2 bases down. Why wouldn't you survive this swarmhost wave if you survived the last one? Surely you shouldn't move out if you took large losses.

On February 11 2018 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
The better approach imo is to go for lots of harass like thor drops and hellion runbys and try to outharass him while aggressively hunting down the swarmhosts with your hellion force. If Swarmhosts have one weakness it's dealing with harass.


I agree this is what you should be doing until he tried to push you.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
February 11 2018 18:27 GMT
#1730
On February 12 2018 02:05 WaesumNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
I think this is a bad idea. The Zerg player will just wait until the swarmhosts recharge and maybe sacrifice 1-2 bases in the process and then swoop with his army + the locusts


If he does that then you would just be right where you started, except he's now 2 bases down. Why wouldn't you survive this swarmhost wave if you survived the last one? Surely you shouldn't move out if you took large losses.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 20:26 Charoisaur wrote:
The better approach imo is to go for lots of harass like thor drops and hellion runbys and try to outharass him while aggressively hunting down the swarmhosts with your hellion force. If Swarmhosts have one weakness it's dealing with harass.


I agree this is what you should be doing until he tried to push you.

Becausewhen you attack on creep the Zerg can flank from multiple angles making the trade MUCH more favorable for him.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 18 2018 06:17 GMT
#1731
Does anyone know of any good Terran cheeses?

I got challenged to a 2v1 at work and I was wondering if there were some cheeses I could implement to spice things up. I typically like to go for Macro games which is why I'm asking.

Thanks in advance!
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
February 19 2018 17:50 GMT
#1732
Frudgey why not going for a lot of cyclone early
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MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 13:42:14
February 20 2018 07:43 GMT
#1733
NT.
pastorn___
Profile Joined February 2018
1 Post
February 20 2018 18:42 GMT
#1734
So how do I win against toss, im low masters, and ive literally tried everything thats possible, i was even 190/200 against 140/200 and he just steamrolled me, i feel like toss can mess up so much but still not get behind as bad as terran does, u do one fcking mistake and its gg from min 2, so tell me please )))))))))
Rowrin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States280 Posts
February 21 2018 00:07 GMT
#1735
On February 18 2018 15:17 Frudgey wrote:
Does anyone know of any good Terran cheeses?

I got challenged to a 2v1 at work and I was wondering if there were some cheeses I could implement to spice things up. I typically like to go for Macro games which is why I'm asking.

Thanks in advance!


If you are on the 2 player side, have both players secretly agree to worker rush xD. Nothing you can do 26 workers vs 13-14 xD
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
February 21 2018 01:05 GMT
#1736
No sadly I'm the one versus the two! But that's exactly what they did to me last time - they worker rushed me!

@Mun_Su - I was thinking early Cyclone shenanigans, so I might settle on proxy Cyclones.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
April 01 2018 23:19 GMT
#1737
What's the solution to TvP?
Got a huge economic advantage, upgrade advantage (2-2 vs 0-0) but still can't beat protoss once they teched to disruptors, keep getting outtraded in the end
WriterMaru
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
April 02 2018 00:48 GMT
#1738
On April 02 2018 08:19 Poopi wrote:
What's the solution to TvP?
Got a huge economic advantage, upgrade advantage (2-2 vs 0-0) but still can't beat protoss once they teched to disruptors, keep getting outtraded in the end


against disruptors u need to be really patient with your engagements, you can't just stim your entire army in even if you're 80 supply up. Based to maru's streams, against disruptor compositions, he seiges with range libs or leapfrogs tanks towards protoss base. Always stim a few units in front to tank nova shots. From there its just taking efficient trades until you win.
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
April 02 2018 15:41 GMT
#1739
Could anyone share Maru's basic build/opening from the most recent GSL Finals VS. Stats? Does he always go Reactor Barracks to Factory with 1 Cyclone?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Tzela
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada48 Posts
April 06 2018 17:47 GMT
#1740
On April 03 2018 00:41 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Could anyone share Maru's basic build/opening from the most recent GSL Finals VS. Stats? Does he always go Reactor Barracks to Factory with 1 Cyclone?


why dont ya just watch it no two games were the same. i dont think its a good series to draw any conclusions on a solid macro tvp build order though. these guys were playing a well thought out series at the top level anti meta gaming each others anti meta game.
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