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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
August 20 2013 21:20 GMT
#141
I have been playing against this build lately (Terran here) and I can tell you I hate it... but if I see this opening coming... I can get a 4th base pretty quickly and get enough ghosts to take out the HT late game.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
August 20 2013 22:03 GMT
#142
Wow, so PROFESSIONAL.
t to the redogz, tredogz
Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
August 20 2013 23:27 GMT
#143
On August 19 2013 13:08 rice_devOurer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 13:03 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
So you build 7 warp prism like in picture :D

I see 8 warp prisms :D

I counted 9 prisms in the bigger picture :o

I wish more people noticed this. It's hilarious.

Great guide though, even from a Terran perspective.
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 19:03:04
August 21 2013 19:02 GMT
#144
On August 20 2013 15:41 Sturehof wrote:
I am seeing this all the time on ladder now as Terran. All the Tosses playing it has like 70% win chance.
It will probably be patched in 6 months - 1 year or so (not sure because probably GSL terrans can deal with it, and then it will be considered as fine lol). But since I can not get patched to 500 apm vs mass zealots my normal Terran play has probably taken to many hits and found something else to do by then. Great guide though, you deleted atleast me from ladder, I surrender.




TL going downhill with allowing balance whines in any kind of thread. the balance whining by terran especially makes me want to fucking puke just quit it already. Have some shame




Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 21 2013 19:05 GMT
#145
Yeah he actually edited his post to make it even worse. Don't worry, the hammer is swinging
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1939 Posts
August 22 2013 11:56 GMT
#146
Teo guides so imba, blizzard should patch. Noobs just read the guides and have easy wins.
geiko.813 (EU)
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
August 23 2013 22:57 GMT
#147
I love how TL releases a top-notch quality guide on how to play absolutely textbook standard TvZ with 4M style that requires skill, APM, and micro and then days later, the best that can be done to help the state of PvT revolves around a 2 base allin build thats amove friendly as long as you can press 'T'.



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JapaneseSC2
Profile Joined April 2012
60 Posts
August 24 2013 05:05 GMT
#148
damn this is good!
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
August 24 2013 05:28 GMT
#149
it looks like naniwa pull a vary similar build vs innovation on newkirk precint today but he went up to 8 gates(i think). Anybody know the reason why u add 7-8 gates instead of expanding to 3rd with 6 gates or so? 7-8 gates seem a bit all-inish.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 24 2013 06:28 GMT
#150
On August 24 2013 07:57 Nightsz wrote:
I love how TL releases a top-notch quality guide on how to play absolutely textbook standard TvZ with 4M style that requires skill, APM, and micro and then days later, the best that can be done to help the state of PvT revolves around a 2 base allin build thats amove friendly as long as you can press 'T'.



User was temp banned for this post.


That post may be the funniest in this entire thread.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Lock0n
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom184 Posts
August 24 2013 08:48 GMT
#151
On August 24 2013 07:57 Nightsz wrote:
I love how TL releases a top-notch quality guide on how to play absolutely textbook standard TvZ with 4M style that requires skill, APM, and micro and then days later, the best that can be done to help the state of PvT revolves around a 2 base allin build thats amove friendly as long as you can press 'T'.



User was temp banned for this post.


I concur except for 1 thing, this build is not just a 2 base all in, once storm is done then Protoss already have the game won in any type of long macro game.

User was temp banned for this post.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 24 2013 09:10 GMT
#152
On August 24 2013 14:28 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
it looks like naniwa pull a vary similar build vs innovation on newkirk precint today but he went up to 8 gates(i think). Anybody know the reason why u add 7-8 gates instead of expanding to 3rd with 6 gates or so? 7-8 gates seem a bit all-inish.


Colossus builds tend to stay on 6gates because they also have a robo pumping colossi; if you are only making cheaper zealot/templar and upgrading off a single forge, you can easily afford to have 7/8 gates and still make probes, upgrade and take a third. Every build in the OP gets 7 gates before taking a third too.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13973 Posts
August 25 2013 20:48 GMT
#153
dumb question but any good PvP timings or builds? thats my biggest weakness, PvT my greatest strength (i never make collosi)
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
August 25 2013 20:50 GMT
#154
This isn't the thead for it Check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402753
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
August 25 2013 22:57 GMT
#155
This build is disgusting. Played against a 2 base zealot archon variant. Protoss punched through the five bunkers between my natural and third with ease. Most infuriating game in a long time because i knew it was coming and was still powerless to stop it.
Speaking of which, what is the best way to fight this build as Terran?
Inno pls...
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13973 Posts
August 27 2013 01:41 GMT
#156
On August 26 2013 05:50 Teoita wrote:
This isn't the thead for it Check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402753

ah thanks so much
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
August 27 2013 15:27 GMT
#157
Excellent Guide but I cant find when I should make 3rd and 4th gas?
Guide says 1st gas at 16 and 2nd gas at 25.

How much supply you should have at 10min if nothing happened?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
August 27 2013 16:00 GMT
#158
Would anyone be willing to share some replays of this in action? IMO, replays of good players are more helpful illustrations than VODs of professionals.
FLUFFYPenguin
Profile Joined March 2013
Finland25 Posts
September 01 2013 15:37 GMT
#159
Great guide as always, but I would really like to be able to open the images in a higher resolution (even in another tab, if nothing else is possible). Having a picture description of "The big blue dot on the minimap is a bunch of SCVs." is kind of silly when the picture is resized to 600x337.

Everything else in this guide was absolutely phenomenal. Really good job and thanks for another awesome guide TL!
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
September 03 2013 10:08 GMT
#160
super guide, thank you!
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