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FoxShine
United States156 Posts
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metzninja
New Zealand626 Posts
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Zeus5TV
Netherlands11 Posts
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Sturehof
Sweden14 Posts
It will probably be patched in 6 months - 1 year or so (not sure because probably GSL terrans can deal with it, and then it will be considered as fine lol). But since I can not get patched to 500 apm vs mass zealots my normal Terran play has probably taken to many hits and found something else to do by then. Great guide though, you deleted atleast me from ladder, I surrender. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On August 20 2013 15:41 Sturehof wrote: I am seeing this all the time on ladder now as Terran. All the Tosses playing it has like 70% win chance. It will probably be patched in 6 months - 1 year or so (not sure because probably GSL terrans can deal with it, and then it will be considered as fine lol). But since I can not get patched to 500 apm vs mass zealots my normal Terran play has probably taken to many hits and found something else to do by then. Great guide though, you deleted atleast me from ladder, I surrender. I can assure you that if you're horribad, ladder will make you meet other horribad players (perhaps me!?). And then, just build marauders and research stim. But by your reasoning, marine marauder medivac will probably be nerfed by next year, so don't worry. | ||
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Sturehof
Sweden14 Posts
On August 20 2013 16:08 neptunusfisk wrote: I can assure you that if you're horribad, ladder will make you meet other horribad players (perhaps me!?). And then, just build marauders and research stim. But by your reasoning, marine marauder medivac will probably be nerfed by next year, so don't worry. If MMM get's nerfed instead, then I will die even harder? I guess I should worry then? Hahaha? I am 7 times master so I am not awful I guess? Or ? One mans missery, another one's joy! | ||
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Zeus5TV
Netherlands11 Posts
On August 20 2013 16:20 Sturehof wrote: If MMM get's nerfed instead, then I will die even harder? I guess I should worry then? Hahaha? I am 7 times master so I am not awful I guess? Or ? One mans missery, another one's joy! Is 7 times master not enough to make ghosts earlier in the game? Since it pretty much hardcounters this build. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
2) Please stop with the shitposting. 3) Balance doesn't affect master level players. People in master, including myself, suck too horribly at the game for that to be relevant. | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On August 20 2013 17:55 Teoita wrote: 3) Balance doesn't affect master level players. People in master, including myself, suck too horribly at the game for that to be relevant. This is what I keep reading, but does it only seem a problem to me, that balancing the game on the korean gm ladder (or even higher) has led to a game, where non-korean terrans cannot really compete with korean players, while we see some non korean zerg (Scarlett, Stephano...) or protoss (Nani, Grubby) having some success against them? I mean yeah we've all seen a foreigner terran to win against a korean guy, but how far did he make it? Or is it just me and it only FEELS like foreigner terrans are struggling harder than foreigner toss/zerg. And considering ladder: As a player who went from bronze up to masters, first with terran, now the same again with random, i have seen many things: Of course the game has to be balanced on the highest skill-level, but I would wish that this also affects lower skill levels the same ammount. It just doesn't FEEL fair/balanced, that on lower leagues, some races are imba in terms of they have strats much easier to pull of for a win then others or to put it in other words: doesn't feel to satisfying getting defeated by a overall clearly worse player ("noob") just because he succeeds with his 30-50 APM allin build (of course the losing player must have made one big mistake so he loses, I'd rather prefer losing in sc2 is because of a sum of minor mistakes -> it is in GSL & Co (well not even there all the time) but in brood war this seemed more the case, why can't that transfer to SC2  | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
Anyway, this thread isn't the place for those discussions, so again, stop with the bad posting please. | ||
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Eladen
Slovakia54 Posts
I have just one question, will you not add some of your own replays? It was very helpful at WoL version of this guide. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
We almost never include personal replays in TL strat articles because the level of play is not even remotely comparable to that in the Vods. I looked for good pro level replays while doing this but i didn't find anything | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On August 20 2013 19:34 Teoita wrote: You are not aware of how dt's (for example) fucntion in bw are you? Anyway, this thread isn't the place for those discussions, so again, stop with the bad posting please. well I did play BW a lot, so I don't know what you're refering to. AFAIR in BW you couldn't warp a DT into the face of the oponent, and that is, if a lower league player doesn't scout perfectly and/or sees the warpin it hits harder in sc2, not saying toss is imba, just there are tricks that were cheesy before and now they got even simpler ;-) But yeah, I don't want to discuss this, just pointed something out. As said thx for the guide, but that's no reason to talk from a high hourse, I mean saying others posts are bad just because it isn't your opinion... | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
Oh and FEEDBACKS. | ||
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Eladen
Slovakia54 Posts
On August 20 2013 19:52 Teoita wrote: I posted some in the protoss help me thread a while ago, with some digging you should find them. We almost never include personal replays in TL strat articles because the level of play is not even remotely comparable to that in the Vods. I looked for good pro level replays while doing this but i didn't find anything Finally found them among your many posts in the help me thread, you really post a lot there  Thanks a lot | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
On August 20 2013 15:41 Sturehof wrote: I am seeing this all the time on ladder now as Terran. All the Tosses playing it has like 70% win chance. It will probably be patched in 6 months - 1 year or so (not sure because probably GSL terrans can deal with it, and then it will be considered as fine lol). But since I can not get patched to 500 apm vs mass zealots my normal Terran play has probably taken to many hits and found something else to do by then. Great guide though, you deleted atleast me from ladder, I surrender. Blue Flame Hellbat/Marauder/Medivac, EMP, and kite at the front. At the same time, drop a few blue flame Hellbats in the main mineral line. | ||
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Jazzman88
Canada2228 Posts
On August 20 2013 19:52 Teoita wrote: I posted some in the protoss help me thread a while ago, with some digging you should find them. We almost never include personal replays in TL strat articles because the level of play is not even remotely comparable to that in the Vods. I looked for good pro level replays while doing this but i didn't find anything I know, right? It's so hard to find accessible replays of the absolute highest-level execution for any strategy. I know players like to keep their patterns and style as inaccessible to opponents as possible, but I'd love to follow and rewind through Flash's POV instead of just listening to Artosis try to explain what's going on. Nonetheless, a great list of stuff to watch here. I'm sure some Diamond or lower players could even find something useful in your replays, Teoita.  | ||
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Krugessin
Sweden54 Posts
While still an interesting read, this was not the terran guide I expected. Oh the horror. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
That's my old post, before the hellbat nerf. Only real men went templar back then :D | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
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