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Illuminati101
Profile Joined September 2010
Peru21 Posts
June 24 2014 21:33 GMT
#6801
HI Jakatak Just came here to congratulate you for the great work u are doing for the sc2 community. Do u have an approx idea of when is the core 2.0 coming out? thanks
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 24 2014 22:01 GMT
#6802
hey hey. I have sooooooo many projects I'm working on, unfortunately TheCore is one of the least time sensitive ones. I'm doing my best to delegate the workload so that it can get done by the rest of the team, so it'll be up to all of us when it finishes.
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Ottoman042
Profile Joined November 2012
United States35 Posts
June 26 2014 16:25 GMT
#6803
Ok, I use TRS. The core comes with rapid-fire settings for muling. Which is the correct way to rapidly call down mules. Select CG, hold shift then K, and click minerals till no energy? I've been trying to practice this with mixed results just want to clarify please, Thanks.
Beedebdoo
Profile Joined June 2013
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 13:27:26
June 28 2014 07:36 GMT
#6804
Random 2.0 right now seems to use the thumb key for heal on Medivac, although L/K, which has the same keyscore is free. Moving it to L/K would enable alt+key to disable auto-cast less awkwardly, as well as create a consistency with repair on the SCV (both spells are by default auto-cast and heal units with a specific armor type).

RRM 2.0 for Nordic and R. Ability Map on TheCore Master Spreadsheet used as reference.

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Mossmyr
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden35 Posts
June 28 2014 15:58 GMT
#6805
Hey Jak, after playing my first StarBow game, the attack command [J] for all my units dissapeared.
Had to download the hotkey-file again.

I used TheCore PRM, somewhat recent version.
JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
June 28 2014 20:42 GMT
#6806
@otto
rapid fire mule is pretty bad, its mostly in there for the lulz. Ideally you are selecting the correct patches and dropping each mule down on each patch individually.

@beede
make it happen, sounds good.

@moss
StarBow is not all set for 2.0. Are you using 2.0 or 1.0?
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Beedebdoo
Profile Joined June 2013
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 13:25:31
June 29 2014 20:15 GMT
#6807
Speed upgrade consistency, Random 2.0
Centrifugal Hooks on RRM 2.0 doesn't seem to follow the coherence between speed upgrades. It's on S/;, while the speed-upgrade for Hydralisks, Roaches and Zerglings are on W/P.

I remember we talked about putting all speed upgrades on S/;, because W/P is taken up by Select Larvae, which means Pneumatized Glands for Overlords can't follow the pattern. The issue with this, however, is that S/; on the Hydralisk Den is bound Grooved Spines, which is also the key for Hydralisks.
IMO, we're best off keeping the hydra connection, while keeping Overlord speed out (i.e. speed on W/P). It is more efficient because speed upgrades get moved to the homerow, and it also ensures no accidental Overlord speed, while spamming hydras with no larvae.

Robotics Facility unit priority
The priority for both Zerg and Random as of 2.0 is currently
Observer(homerow), Warp Prism(homerow), Immortal, Colossus

I'd argue that Warp Prism is overrated. A Warp Prism's incremental value is quite low. It's a pure support unit like the Viper. It has no direct combat value, only indirect (no damage dealt). When have you needed 1 Warp Prisms? 2? 3? 4? 8?
If you're going to keep a very limited number of Warp Prisms at any time, then I'd say that at least Immortals should be prioritized over them in a world without meta-gaming.
Meta-gaming in mind, they seem in general always to have been built less than Colossus, not too sure about Immortals though.

Edit
Question: Why does the homerow have a keyscore at all, if there's no attribute (Reach, Knuckle separation, etc.) it gets its score from?
On the topic of keyscore, a question I asked in this post haven't seen a response :p
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/341878-thecore-advanced-keyboard-layout?page=339#6767
CrazyFabiO
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany28 Posts
June 30 2014 16:49 GMT
#6808
Hey,

is there any of the keysets (blue, red, orange etc.) for T becoming appearent to be the one released in 2.0?

(I'm back after a long break and want to learn the most optimised hotkey layout straight away. :-) )


And one meta-question:

Is there a wiki about TheCore on the way?
Beedebdoo
Profile Joined June 2013
130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-24 12:12:10
June 30 2014 17:07 GMT
#6809
@CrazyFabiO
For T 2.0, Red, Orange and Purple are all strong contenders, and it will likely be one of them (95% sure). Personally, my guess is that red will be picked. But that decision still awaits a long nice discussion.

No wiki is on the way, as far as I know.
brook8128
Profile Joined August 2013
Korea (South)66 Posts
July 03 2014 07:46 GMT
#6810
When deos it update?
OvO
varsovie
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada326 Posts
July 05 2014 10:16 GMT
#6811
On June 25 2014 07:01 JaKaTaK wrote:
hey hey. I have sooooooo many projects I'm working on, unfortunately TheCore is one of the least time sensitive ones. I'm doing my best to delegate the workload so that it can get done by the rest of the team, so it'll be up to all of us when it finishes.


So you spend time advertising for inefficiently used resources instead of making a tool to make my APM more efficient!
You should be ashamed of such a poor time management Jakatak!
May you get hand cramps and get only Protoss opponents from now on!


JaKaTaKSc2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2787 Posts
July 05 2014 18:37 GMT
#6812
Gotta put food on the table
Commentatorhttps://www.youtube.com/JaKaTaKtv
Mossmyr
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden35 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 16:23:59
July 06 2014 16:23 GMT
#6813
@JaK
I'm using 1.0 (actually I can't download 2.0 cause that DropBox folder is empty, I thought it hadn't been released yet?).
Sorry for late reply
pedz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States13 Posts
July 07 2014 00:25 GMT
#6814
I have not read all 341 pages so I hope you will forgive me if this is a duplicate.

I really like the fact that add to control groups is cntl+<key>. (I'm using TLM).

I can rally my different units to one spot. Lets say I have marines, marauders, tanks, and medivacs all in one big clump. I can hold down the control key, click a marine which selects all of the marines, then the key for the control group I want them to be in. Rinse and repeat for the other units. In four clicks and four key strokes I have my control groups set up.

Very nice!

I also like shift+cntr+<key> to create a group since that isn't necessary very often usually only when I've added something to a group by mistake and I need to remove it. The only way I know how to do that is to clean up the group and then "create" the group fresh.

I just started this quest. I was playing a slightly modified standard layout with a right handed mouse. But I'm really left handed. So I switched everything all at once and now playing left handed mouse with the core TLM. I had been at Very Hard against the AI (and gold on the ladder although I was a very weak gold). I lost two games with Very Hard and the game dropped me down to Harder which I won (on my third game using the new system). It says my APM is 24 while my average was 25/26 but it feels like I'm down around 6... everything is very awkward but that doesn't worry me.

Thank you to all... this is going to be an adventure!


TheSherbs
Profile Joined April 2014
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-07 11:56:30
July 07 2014 11:56 GMT
#6815
Hello JaK
I have been using my own shoddily constructed and modified version of the core, as I have not been able to find the folder to save the core hockey document into. I use a mac, the instructions on how to find the file to save it in are different to the actual folders on my computer. When I go under my starcraft folder, there is no "accounts" subfolder. Any help on how to get to the hockey document pages would be much appreciated.
velvex
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany226 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 17:00:33
July 07 2014 13:23 GMT
#6816
On July 07 2014 20:56 TheSherbs wrote:
Hello JaK
I have been using my own shoddily constructed and modified version of the core, as I have not been able to find the folder to save the core hockey document into. I use a mac, the instructions on how to find the file to save it in are different to the actual folders on my computer. When I go under my starcraft folder, there is no "accounts" subfolder. Any help on how to get to the hockey document pages would be much appreciated.

A foolproof way to find the right folder is the following (not saying you're a fool ofc!):

1. Go to the Replays* section in the SC2 client.
2. Click the "Show in Folder" button in the top right. A window should open in your OS.
3. Go up three folders.
4. Open the "Hotkeys" folder and place the file there.
TheSherbs
Profile Joined April 2014
3 Posts
July 08 2014 00:40 GMT
#6817
Never doubt the ingenuity of fools :D
On the hotkey page I cannot find a "show in folder". There might be a difference with my computer though, as I am on a mac.
varsovie
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada326 Posts
July 08 2014 03:49 GMT
#6818
On July 08 2014 09:40 TheSherbs wrote:
Never doubt the ingenuity of fools :D
On the hotkey page I cannot find a "show in folder". There might be a difference with my computer though, as I am on a mac.


Simply search on your whole computer for *.hotkey
YoTcA
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany151 Posts
July 08 2014 07:43 GMT
#6819
On July 07 2014 09:25 pedz wrote:
I also like shift+cntr+<key> to create a group since that isn't necessary very often usually only when I've added something to a group by mistake and I need to remove it. The only way I know how to do that is to clean up the group and then "create" the group fresh.

There is a better way, if you added a unit type to a CG by mistake.
1. Select the CG with the units you want to remove
2. ctrl+shift click the a unit portrait in the unit list of the cg -> all units of that type get deselected.
3. ctrl+shift+# (=key of the CG) to recreate the CG without the deselected units.
hf gl
velvex
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany226 Posts
July 08 2014 17:00 GMT
#6820
On July 08 2014 09:40 TheSherbs wrote:
Never doubt the ingenuity of fools :D
On the hotkey page I cannot find a "show in folder". There might be a difference with my computer though, as I am on a mac.

Whoops, I meant to say "Replay section". Sorry for the confusion.
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