EPTWow. It feels just like it did two years ago, stumbling around the keyboard. But just as it was going from the standard layout to The Core's alpha, you can tell that it's a world of better -- let's see how long it takes to get back up to master league.
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poeticEnnui
United States78 Posts
Wow. It feels just like it did two years ago, stumbling around the keyboard. But just as it was going from the standard layout to The Core's alpha, you can tell that it's a world of better -- let's see how long it takes to get back up to master league. | ||
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gbdude
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R05
Canada47 Posts
and it goes here: /Documents/Starcraft II/Accounts/(random number)/Hotkeys | ||
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zergling4
Belgium6 Posts
When I click my first hatch, hold alt+camera 1 then click on the minimap to set my natural base cam and press alt+camera 2 it centers back on my first hatch, because Alt is set to center on current selection and the hatch is still selected? my feedback on 2.0 the creep method is nice, but it isnt worth losing all the unit build keys and control groups of the older for me in my opinion the control groups and the inject method/camera keys of the old version were a lot more comfortable i also prefer the old attack move and the combination with the control group | ||
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JDub
United States976 Posts
On July 17 2014 21:54 zergling4 wrote: When I click my first hatch, hold alt+camera 1 then click on the minimap to set my natural base cam and press alt+camera 2 it centers back on my first hatch, because Alt is set to center on current selection and the hatch is still selected? Don't release alt. I believe the procedure is covered in more detail either in some of the videos or in the FAQ as well. | ||
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gbdude
3 Posts
On July 17 2014 07:30 R05 wrote: The file has to be saved as "(filename).SC2Hotkeys" and it goes here: /Documents/Starcraft II/Accounts/(random number)/Hotkeys Oh, ok! Thx, forgot to do that!! XD | ||
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MoonFan
Vietnam55 Posts
cant wait :D | ||
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3achy
Australia12 Posts
and thanks for the great work jak and others. eedit: nvm its on the previous page i think | ||
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VIKINGZOMBIE
Australia31 Posts
http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u127998/keyboard_steel.jpg keyboard, for reference edit: I also just realized that the \ key (which is supposed to be above the enter key) has been moved to left of the shift, for an extended size enter key. How would I work around this? And I ALSO dont have side mouse buttons to make use of control group cycling. This is not looking good so far. edit2: just raged out and bought a deathadder. There are really no viable alternatives to the side mouse buttons. | ||
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Beedebdoo
130 Posts
On July 15 2014 21:32 nuke01 wrote: In 1.0 all layouts have abilities on ring and pinky (some exceptions) and CGs on middle and index. In 2.0 it differs from layout to layout. Here's how it currently looks:whats fresh in 2.0? is there a reason to switch? what is it all about? Zerg: CGs: Ring and middle. Abilities: Pinky and index Protoss: CGs: Ring and index. Abilities: Pinky and middle Random: CGs: Pinky and middle. Abilities: Ring and index Terran: Undecided @VIKINGZOMBIE On July 19 2014 13:19 VIKINGZOMBIE wrote: You'd have to remap every key bound to / to \ instead.edit: I also just realized that the \ key (which is supposed to be above the enter key) has been moved to left of the shift, for an extended size enter key. How would I work around this? On July 19 2014 13:19 VIKINGZOMBIE wrote: Assuming that you're using the medium layout, you could have placed next and previous subgroup to ] and backspace. Of course you might find the mouse buttons on your new mouse more comfortable and convenient.And I ALSO dont have side mouse buttons to make use of control group cycling. This is not looking good so far. EDIT: If you're having trouble with the shift key, you could use a 3rd party program like AutoHotkey or SharpKeys to remap your \ button to shift, and use that whenever you're not pressing Shift+Ctrl. | ||
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Plantarbre
France45 Posts
-TRM hotkeys | MK-85 mx cherry brown (latest drivers) | french AZERTY- My TheCore hotkeys were working pretty well for months...but recently, I found out that my CTRL + SHIFT + à doesn't work at all (I decided to use this group with my mouse wheel button). And now, it is even worse ! My CTRL + P / M / ) / ^ / $ / = don't work ! Sometimes, when I reboot my PC, it work again, but it doesn't work anymore, I tried to repair SC2, to reboot my PC, to change my keyboard driver, to disconnect my keyboard, to play without my keyboard driver, to verify if the hotkeys was correct....It don't work. And...Well.. It totally works when I use CTRL + SHIFT + P / M /... I don't really want to go back on the standard hotkeys, so..I would be really grateful if someone find out how to resolve this. -> I can only play with my 2,4,5,6 hotkey now, it's not playable. | ||
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VIKINGZOMBIE
Australia31 Posts
On July 19 2014 17:17 Beedebdoo wrote: @nuke01 In 1.0 all layouts have abilities on ring and pinky (some exceptions) and CGs on middle and index. In 2.0 it differs from layout to layout. Here's how it currently looks: Zerg: CGs: Ring and middle. Abilities: Pinky and index Protoss: CGs: Ring and index. Abilities: Pinky and middle Random: CGs: Pinky and middle. Abilities: Ring and index Terran: Undecided @VIKINGZOMBIE You'd have to remap every key bound to / to \ instead. Assuming that you're using the medium layout, you could have placed next and previous subgroup to ] and backspace. Of course you might find the mouse buttons on your new mouse more comfortable and convenient. + Show Spoiler [OP video about TheCore Customization] + EDIT: If you're having trouble with the shift key, you could use a 3rd party program like AutoHotkey or SharpKeys to remap your \ button to shift, and use that whenever you're not pressing Shift+Ctrl.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_o3SCLmT6g Thanks I'm waiting on the mouse to arrive so I've just been doing hotkey trainer atm to get used to it, and it actually seems to be fine. I've decided the side mouse buttons are too important for efficiency as you can use your left and right hands almost instantly together to cycle tabbed production. But yeah again I appreciate the help and it might end up with just rage buying a new keyboard too, although I did disable my windows menu key and windows key so with that done I can easily just fat finger across them to hit my shift. having \ bound to 'rotate camera' in that position actually seems to be a good thing because I have super easy access to it, for targeting terran workers building etc, and also if I do fat finger it it doesnt matter as it wont impact the game if I just tap it. So it seems to be okay, but cheers for your help | ||
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Alcibiades1991
24 Posts
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MoonFan
Vietnam55 Posts
just my opinion, I never used DarkGrid before so I cant really tell. | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
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kamimaiku
22 Posts
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ZedraC
South Africa109 Posts
Jak, I think you already explained that somewhere in this thread, but I couldn't find it. Why do you think left side of keyboard is inefficient? I'm testing TheCore and Fleet Keys now (trying to find the best layout to switch from awful Standard profile), and like the latter more. But even in theory, I don't see why would right side be way better than left. Hi. Disclaimer: In no way am I saying TheCore is "bad". In fact I still believe it is very well thought out and a brilliant hotkey setup. My reasons for not using it is explained below. I am purely answering kamimaiku on my personal experience using TheCore and FK. I still love Jak's work here. Back to your question: Is that not explained in the first video introducing TheCore? Or am I missing your question a bit? Anyway: I used TheCore for maybe about a year (now on FK). The main thing I liked about it was the fact that your Shift and Ctrl is by you thumb. I love this the most about TheCore. The reason I moved away from it was because I wanted to play random more often, and since you cannot change Hotkey setups quickly ingame, the most logical choice was going back to a grid type layout, alas the reason I started using the Fleet Keys (My main reason being learning a grid type layout is quickeer that TheCore random). I really missed the option of having my Shift and Ctrl by my thumb - actually still miss it. Now what I did (which no one I know off recommends since (as I understand) there is no way of guaranteeing that this is "tournament friendly") is to alt bind my shift and ctrl keys to some of my unused mouse keys. Putting these two on my mouse convinced me to use FK. (I will never play a tournament anyway) The other draw back for me on TheCore was tilting the keyboard. Before and after every game tilting it back and forth was becoming a pain. Typing in game was also made very difficult while you had the keyboard tilted, so I ended up not even "GL HF" anymore cause it was a pain in the butt. That's my reasoning between the two custom setups. Both have got there advantages and dis-advantages. Edit: Forgot to mention the most important part: I am actually considering combining TheCore with FK without tilting the Keyboard, thus having a grid like setup on the right hand side. Thus to maximize both advantages I like onto one (QWE would be OP[ in other words... and then the shift and ctrl is where my thumb is. The problem then is, how do i get to alt comfortably?? | ||
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kamimaiku
22 Posts
Back to your question: Is that not explained in the first video introducing TheCore? Or am I missing your question a bit? Actually, I watched every video from OP except this one ^_^ expecting to see some kind of advertisement version of features list and nothing more. Anyway, the only argument I saw was about thumb. While it's one of the main features of TheCore, I still wouldn't say one side of keyboard is better than another because of it. Also, I agree that easy access to shift and control by thumb is great idea. ZedraC, thank you for advice on additional mouse keys usage. I was wondering what to place there to address the problem with CGs, and this seems to be correct direction for trying. | ||
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JDub
United States976 Posts
On July 21 2014 21:08 kamimaiku wrote: Actually, I watched every video from OP except this one ^_^ expecting to see some kind of advertisement version of features list and nothing more. Anyway, the only argument I saw was about thumb. While it's one of the main features of TheCore, I still wouldn't say one side of keyboard is better than another because of it.. One side of the keyboard uses 4 fingers and wastes the thumb, and the other takes full advantage of all 5 fingers. Is that not enough to say one side is more efficient than the other? That's a 25% increase in fingers! | ||
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ZedraC
South Africa109 Posts
One side of the keyboard uses 4 fingers and wastes the thumb, and the other takes full advantage of all 5 fingers. Is that not enough to say one side is more efficient than the other? That's a 25% increase in fingers! Incorrect: With Fleet Keys you use your thumb a lot. The new setup has got many many key bindings on the spacebar (including many rapid fire options for all three races). Your answer is however valid for grid or standard hotkeys. | ||
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