[G] TheCore - Advanced Keyboard Layout - Page 337

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Ninjury_J

Canada408 Posts

May 30 2014 20:11 GMT

#6721

Here is the Camera Harass Defense Drill by none-other than our wonderful OP.

malaqi

Germany2 Posts

May 31 2014 05:42 GMT

#6722

can someone tell me how I can inject in ZRM 0?
the P and SHIFT+P control groups are gone,
where should I put my queens and hatches now, and on which camera should hatchery 1 2 and 3 be?

how is the injecting then supposed to work?

queens are on U? so press U then shift U + I + O?
doesnt this inject method seem slower than the old one,?

malaqi

Germany2 Posts

May 31 2014 05:44 GMT

#6723

did the homekeys change?

dadolins

Canada4 Posts

May 31 2014 15:24 GMT

#6724

A quick question, do you need to download python 3 to get the core 2.0?? Or is there a simpler way to get the hotkeys. Thank you very much for your help on this.

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

May 31 2014 16:25 GMT

#6725

@malaqi: The ZRM 2.0 layout is optimized for rapid fire injects. Those are performed by binding the queens to U and then press - and = simultaniously to start the rapidfire inject. If you are not using rapidfire inject, I would suggest binding inject to [ and use this for your injects.
the homekeys are the same, but they are used for different things now.

@dadolins: No, you do not need python. It is only needed to translate the hotkeyfiles for other keyboard layouts. But JaK (or some other mystical hero) is doing this for us, so you just need to download the hotkey file.

dadolins

Canada4 Posts

May 31 2014 21:15 GMT

#6726

@YoTca, where is the hotkey file?? I went to Github but could not download the files. It only opens them in a text format. Can you please explain, as it seems that I am a noob on this :D

Thanks :D

R05

Canada47 Posts

June 01 2014 00:40 GMT

#6727

copy all the text and paste it in a text file, then "save as..." (anythingyouwant).SC2Hotkeys

dont forget to have "save as type:" to "all files" and then put it into documents/StarCraft II/Accounts/(random numbers)/Hotkeys

Then you can load it up from the game hotkey settings. Thats how i did it but maybe theres another way that i dont know.

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

June 01 2014 08:51 GMT

#6728

On May 31 2014 03:32 somesuchnonsense wrote:
Or just right click on "Raw" (in the upper right corner) and select "Save link as"

JaKaTaKSc2

United States2787 Posts

June 01 2014 16:10 GMT

#6729

put these instructions in the OP. I know GitHub can be frustrating sometimes. The RaZe project has calmed down now that the deadline is past so I can do one day per week for TheCore. Should see more progress now that I can help again

dadolins

Canada4 Posts

June 02 2014 02:00 GMT

#6730

Hey Jakatak,

Starting to use the core2 for Zerg. Found that the spreadsheet for the camera says to create camera is Alt+"number or letter", where the downloaded program is Alt+CTRL+"".

A quick question, I was wondering how you are going to do the larva injects and the creep spread for this version. Let me know or have a video when you are able. Really looking forward to ladder in a few weeks with this edition :D

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

June 02 2014 10:34 GMT

#6731

FAQ:

8. Why is x hotkey set to Ctrl+Alt? It is so hard to press.

Many Keyboards have an Alt Gr key on the right side and an Alt key on the left side. In Starcraft 2, Alt Gr is represented by Ctrl+Alt. If you do not have a keyboard with an Alt Gr key, you have likely downloaded the wrong keyboard type.

Slashiepie

107 Posts

June 02 2014 16:36 GMT

#6732

On May 30 2014 17:31 YoTcA wrote:
@Ninjury: Ok, that could solve the problem. So you remember the correct numbers?

@Equiva1ence: Thanks for the info. Changed it

@Slashiepie:
The download link in the first post:
+ Show Spoiler +

The file you need, if you want to test random 2.0 on a US qwerty keyboard with the right handed medium layout:
+ Show Spoiler +

How this file looks in my game:
+ Show Spoiler +

The keybindings (everything but the command card), copied from the hotkey file on github:
+ Show Spoiler +

[Settings]
AllowSetConflicts=1

[Hotkeys]
Music=F4
Sound=F12
PTT=Control+Tab
ChatAll=Shift+Enter
ChatAllies=Control+Grave
ChatCancel=Escape
ChatDefault=Enter
ChatIndividual=Control+Shift+Enter
ChatRecipient=Control+Enter
DialogDismiss=Escape,RightMouseButton
MenuAchievements=F3
MenuGame=F5,Escape
MenuMessages=F11
MenuHelp=F2
MenuSocial=F1
LeaderNone=B
LeaderResources=Y
LeaderIncome=N
LeaderSpending=U
LeaderUnits=I
LeaderStructures=M
LeaderUnitsLost=Slash
LeaderProduction=J
LeaderUpgrades=8
LeaderArmy=H
LeaderAPM=Comma
LeaderCPM=G
ObserveAllPlayers=Control+O
ObserveAutoCamera=Shift+Minus
ObserveClearSelection=Escape
ObserveCommentator=
ObservePlayer0=Control+Minus
ObservePlayer1=Control+BracketOpen
ObservePlayer2=Control+H
ObservePlayer3=Control+Apostrophe
ObservePlayer4=Control+8
ObservePlayer5=Control+M
ObservePlayer6=Control+U
ObservePlayer7=Control+Shift+SemiColon
ObservePlayer8=Control+Shift+L
ObservePlayer9=Control+Shift+9
ObservePlayer10=Control+Shift+0
ObservePlayer11=Control+Shift+K
ObservePlayer12=Control+Shift+Minus
ObservePlayer13=Control+Shift+BracketOpen
ObservePlayer14=Control+Shift+H
ObservePlayer15=Control+Shift+Apostrophe
ObservePreview=Control+P
ObserveSelected=Shift+K
ObserveStatusBars=Control+K
ObserveZoomCameraLevel1=Control+BackMouseButton
ObserveZoomCameraLevel2=Control+Shift+BackMouseButton
NamePanel=Shift+8
StatPanelResources=Control+SemiColon
StatPanelArmySupply=Control+Shift+O
StatPanelUnitsLost=Control+Shift+P
StatPanelAPM=Control+L
StatPanelCPM=Control+9
ToggleVersusModeSides=Shift+Apostrophe
ToggleWorldPanel=Control+0
CinematicSkip=Escape,8
AlertRecall=Control+Shift+Alt+F10
ArmySelect=Control+Shift+Alt+F7
CameraCenter=Alt
CameraFollow=Control+Shift+Alt+F5
CameraTurnLeft=Backspace
CameraTurnRight=BackSlash
CameraPush=MiddleMouseButton
ControlGroupAppend0=Control+Period
ControlGroupAppend1=Control+J
ControlGroupAppend2=Control+O
ControlGroupAppend3=Control+L
ControlGroupAppend4=Control+9
ControlGroupAppend5=Control+0,Alt+P
ControlGroupAppend6=Control+H
ControlGroupAppend7=Control+M
ControlGroupAppend8=Control+N
ControlGroupAppend9=Control+Y
ControlGroupAssign0=Control+Shift+Period
ControlGroupAssign1=Control+Shift+J
ControlGroupAssign2=Control+Shift+O
ControlGroupAssign3=Control+Shift+L
ControlGroupAssign4=Control+Shift+9
ControlGroupAssign5=Control+Shift+0
ControlGroupAssign6=Control+Shift+H
ControlGroupAssign7=Control+Shift+M
ControlGroupAssign8=Control+Shift+N
ControlGroupAssign9=Control+Shift+Y
ControlGroupRecall0=Period
ControlGroupRecall1=J
ControlGroupRecall2=O
ControlGroupRecall3=L
ControlGroupRecall4=9
ControlGroupRecall5=0
ControlGroupRecall6=H
ControlGroupRecall7=M
ControlGroupRecall8=N
ControlGroupRecall9=Y
GameTooltipsOn=Control+Shift+Alt+D
IdleWorker=F9
MinimapColors=Control+Shift+SemiColon
MinimapPing=Control+Shift+Alt+F9
MinimapTerrain=Alt+4
PauseGame=Pause,F8
QuickPing=Control+Shift+RightMouseButton
QuickSave=Control+Slash
ReplayPlayPause=K
ReplayRestart=Shift+M
ReplaySkipBack=Shift+BracketOpen
ReplaySkipNext=Shift+H
ReplaySpeedDec=Shift+I
ReplaySpeedInc=Shift+J
ReplayStop=Control+Shift+8
ReplayHide=Shift+U
SelectionCancelDrag=Escape
StatusAll=Control+Shift+Alt+F8
StatusOwner=Control+Alt+F9
StatusAlly=Control+Alt+F7
StatusEnemy=Control+Alt+F8
SubgroupNext=ForwardMouseButton
SubgroupPrev=BackMouseButton
TargetChoose=LeftMouseButton,P,K,Minus,BracketOpen,Apostrophe,7
TeamResources=Control+SemiColon
TownCamera=Equals
WarpIn=Control+Shift+Alt+F12
CameraSave0=Alt+0
CameraSave1=Alt+J
CameraSave2=Alt+L
CameraSave3=Alt+H
CameraSave4=Alt+9
CameraSave5=Alt+O,Control+Shift+P
CameraSave6=Alt+M,Control+U
CameraSave7=Alt+N,Control+8
CameraView0=Shift+0
CameraView1=Shift+J
CameraView2=Shift+L
CameraView3=Shift+H
CameraView4=Shift+9
CameraView5=Shift+O,Control+P
CameraView6=Shift+M,Control+I
CameraView7=Shift+N,Control+K

Maybe somebody else has a solution, if this is not working for you.

Seriously, you are the man, thanks for the thorough help.
For me it came down to deleting all the hotkeys and starting the game without any custom hotkeys.
The file you provided however did also work perfectly without shennanigans.

As for the Core itself it feels smooth and of course weird because the brain gets confused as hell.
I really feel like an hybrid would work the best. Ö and Ü are gine as Control groups and those two were my big boys :'(.

Snarfie

2 Posts

June 03 2014 09:40 GMT

#6733

What is the significance of "(sloppy)" in TheCore2.0 on GitHub? What is the difference between TheCore1.0 and 2.0?

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

June 03 2014 21:28 GMT

#6734

"sloppy" means, that it is only an early beta version, without full compatibility. So far only the HotS multiplayer hotkeys were adjusted (AFAIK). So there can be problems, when you try to play the single player campaign or WoL multiplayer. Also custom maps like Starbow are not supported yet.
The main difference is the hotkey distribution. With TheCore 2.0 there are 2 seperate fingers for abilities and 2 fingers for control groups. This leads to more freedom in the control group usage. Also other improvements were made, like 2 build basic keys to avoid finger repetion when building structures. Due to those changes most of the hotkeys were adjusted.

Snarfie

2 Posts

June 04 2014 00:41 GMT

#6735

Ah, I see. I'm a casual Plat Z player who has been using custom grid for a year with abo. 130 apm, would TheCore1.0 or 2.0 be best for me? Strictly casual play albeit i want more of a challenge

JaKaTaKSc2

United States2787 Posts

June 04 2014 14:19 GMT

#6736

for casual play, TheCore will make the game a bit more comfortable long term. Short term it will be a challenge

YoTcA

Germany151 Posts

June 05 2014 10:47 GMT

#6737

@Snarfie: If you really want a new challange, I would strongly advice you to give TheCore a try. It is really hard in the beginning, but for me it also was really rewarding, because you can see your progress and feel how you get used to the new hotkeys. And eventually you do not want to go back. It will take some time, but I feel like SC2 is allways about improving all the time by perfectiong oneselfs play. So I think you are already used to incorporate new things into your play, and know how hard it is in the beginning.

About the version: I think TheCore 1.0 is a great hotkey setup and if you are only playing 1 or 2 games a day, it might be your way to go. That is, because TheCore 2.0 is still under development and it is likely that hotkeys are changing during this process. So you might have to relearn some of them. And with only a few games a day, you might not want to spend them on relearning hotkeys all the time.
Maybe you can switch to 2.0 after the development is done, because I felt like switching from standard hotkeys to 1.0 was a lot harder than switching from 1.0 to 2.0 .

v_lm

France202 Posts

June 05 2014 18:45 GMT

#6738

Hello I have a question.. its not The Core - related but definitely Hotkeys - related.

Does Blizzard allow multiple alternative hotkeys.
Right now I have TargetChoose on Leftmousebutton and E and I want to add B to it, am I a gangster if I do that ?

Cheers =)

JaKaTaKSc2

United States2787 Posts

June 05 2014 19:12 GMT

#6739

yes. This is how you do it:

MilExo

South Africa139 Posts

June 05 2014 19:23 GMT

#6740

v_Im, it is not against the ToS, so you won't get banned for editing a text file on your computer. This may or may not be tournament legal (will depend on the tournament), though this is generally of little concern to everyone except a very small percentage of people.

It isn't something that is available via the front-end, so not intended functionality and runs the risk of being patched out somewhere in the future. However, this has been around for quite some time, so obviously this hasn't caused too much of a balance problem for Blizzard to patch it so far, but just like the original Hybridic settings (JaKaTaK and Existor now have a new version out), there is no guarantee that Blizzard will not patch it out somewhere in the future.

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