EPTEDIT: Nvm i finally got it to work, there are a lot of replays O.o
[G] 1 base robo PvZ - Page 16
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
EDIT: Nvm i finally got it to work, there are a lot of replays O.o | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On January 10 2012 09:05 Sated wrote: I'd totally forgotten about this build over the holidays, glad I rediscovered it. It just does so much damage to a Zerg who isn't prepared, and any Zerg who over-reacts will find themselves unable to deal with the follow-up push that comes from the Protoss. Absolutely love it! I've found that this is especially good against Zergs who go for an early pool - they gimp themselves quite heavily in exchange for making you expand more slowly, but if you weren't planning on expanding in the first place then this timing completely blows them out of the water! ah, you were talking about the wp harass, my bad :D | ||
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TigerKarl
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KimUffe
Denmark2 Posts
Even if the protoss decides to fake it and not attack, you are still in a really good spot, seeing that you have 2 base vs 1 more workers and a good sized army. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On January 11 2012 07:25 TigerKarl wrote: I had similar ideas about a 1base robo play but i always get a bad feeling when trying to end a game with a one base push. Guess that comes from before i played random, when i was zerg. You should feel bad...this is about as all-in as a build can be, on one base. It feels filthy. But when they leave without GG, you can't help but smile. | ||
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WalkofLife
United States18 Posts
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darkrage14
Canada173 Posts
On January 15 2012 13:00 WalkofLife wrote: Since this is such an all-in, what's the point of the warp prism harass? The OP says that its supposed to force units out of the Zerg, but don't you want him to drone up so your all-in will be met with little resistance? Seems a little counter-productive. Because then a 2 base zerg who has map awareness and sees you're on 1 base will cut drones at 40-45 (which can at around 7:30) and then have a full 2 mins to make spines/roaches before you even MOVE OUT. | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On January 10 2012 17:04 Moosegills wrote: Well the early robo is a giveaway, it's not like there are any other builds that you see 1 base wp harass pvz. Doesn't the zealot/sentry drop in the main while forcefielding the ramp fit this criteria? That's a pretty fucking obnoxious harass if there ever was one. | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
Very powerful build but I have encountered a lot of BM after winning with this. I could contribute a lot to the "Confusing BM" thread just because of this build. | ||
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Lobber
Canada414 Posts
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TechnoSchaman
United States156 Posts
On January 15 2012 13:53 Lobber wrote: Oh for anyone who looks at this thread, I haven't done it in the style I wrote up about in weeks... I actually have an economical expand variant that's been working vs good GMs, but follows the same basic idea. Good stuff. ummmmm this sounds sick, replays plox? | ||
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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
On January 15 2012 13:53 Lobber wrote: Oh for anyone who looks at this thread, I haven't done it in the style I wrote up about in weeks... I actually have an economical expand variant that's been working vs good GMs, but follows the same basic idea. Good stuff. Please provide a replay. If you follow the OP it is definitely an all-in. I would be interested in the expansion timing of your "economical" variant of this build as I have been trying different variations myself in custom games. The problem is that I feel like my expansion timing is too late. Robo before Expansion doesn't seem to cut it, especially when you don't do an insane amount of damage to the Zerg. | ||
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Lobber
Canada414 Posts
I'm actually liking the idea of spending all my games testing slightly weird, and more fun entertaining strategies, and trying to make them valid to win games, even if the strategy is known. It should making games more fun to play, and expand my knowledge... Maybe I will make this a thing. | ||
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SonOfRollon
France1 Post
One more time thanks for your contribution, it is really helpful. | ||
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CcCFlu
Switzerland68 Posts
Its a nice build imo, but if the zerg can surround ur army in the center of the map it might get tricky | ||
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staples2
United States216 Posts
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Dubsy
Canada186 Posts
Could be wrong though. | ||
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RemarK
United States452 Posts
On January 15 2012 15:31 Lobber wrote: I'm thinking of making a large guide of "one base PvZ, with a large number of replays (~5) replays/strategy with maybe ~20 builds shown, and a pretty extensive write up on all the builds/replays... Might be a few weeks in coming though, I really like robo/immortal based builds, not a lot of other 1 base styles though, but testing them all might be nice... I'll see how it goes over the next couple days. I'm actually liking the idea of spending all my games testing slightly weird, and more fun entertaining strategies, and trying to make them valid to win games, even if the strategy is known. It should making games more fun to play, and expand my knowledge... Maybe I will make this a thing. Do it! I love the warp prism all-in now, it frankly reminds me of a PvZ 1-1-1, in the sense that if the Zerg doesn't respond properly, he will auto-lose. Kind of like how most Protosses had no clue what to do vs 1-1-1 for a decent time :p I've become pretty competent at executing this warp prism all-in, if you'd like to teach me the other builds and want help writing the guides I'd be glad to help out in any way possible  | ||
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Depravity
67 Posts
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Lobber
Canada414 Posts
On January 16 2012 09:48 soLremarK wrote: Do it! I love the warp prism all-in now, it frankly reminds me of a PvZ 1-1-1, in the sense that if the Zerg doesn't respond properly, he will auto-lose. Kind of like how most Protosses had no clue what to do vs 1-1-1 for a decent time :p I've become pretty competent at executing this warp prism all-in, if you'd like to teach me the other builds and want help writing the guides I'd be glad to help out in any way possible And a lot like the 1-1-1 there's a lot of different variations, a lot of different timings and compositions with the warp prism haras, it could even be some sort of 4 gate warp prism all in, they don't really know. You can go colossus, immortal, sentry heavy, or anything really... Good adaptive style. | ||
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