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[24H] mmr bot on USWest

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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-17 12:44:21
February 04 2023 04:20 GMT
#1
Hi, I am the author of the bot on US west that people have been able to spot in the past day or two.

I wrote the bot from scratch in the past 4 days, it's still a bit buggy at the moment, not sure how many scaling we want to do at the moment. or what exactly the plan is, it's in beta since today, been updating the code to make it more stable. and sporadically putting it up for testing every now and then.

Link to the MMR ranking is at:
https://scranked.com/ or https://24hsc.com/

we planning to get an actual domain.

The long story short is that clan 24H on uswest, which I am part of. Have asked if anyone can write a bot, because the EU MMR bot is nice. But we have tried to ask the author of EU bot to get copy hosted on US west with no answer. Finally we decided to do it our own.

The bot will first provide our internal use on demand.
When it's free or it have extra capacity it will be on the public server.

I do not have plan to let others hosting the bot at the moment as I don't want to share the code at the moment, but you can leave request if you are interested.


Something I have in mind is to setup discord, so people can get direct invite and have a match making system on discord, where bot will invite people directly if the demands are met before making the game public.

This will allow easier data processing, currently the bot relies on buggy OCR(image to text) detection on screen for bulk of the user recognition, which has been shown to be inconsistent in some cases.

And nothing is set in stone yet, clan members maybe hosting the bot on their spare machine too. The gist is a bot needs a machine / VM right now, regarding to VM , or having more than 1 or 2 bot on from a single LAN environment seems to be causing system instability. Most likely will be resolved by port forwarding to mac address. That's about as much information as I can tell at the moment.



================================Recent Updates==============================================
I am sure many of you have find yourself with noob teammates by the deliberate design of the system right now and getting frustrated. --- 02/08/2023 the experimental gosu lobbies are online. Higher name recognition accuracy system is also in place. Contact me on this thread if your ID has issue getting properly recognized.


02/09/2023 Update:
https://24hbwmmrbot.azurewebsites.net/dashboard/3v3 The site had been upgraded! Now you can see player profile page, and you can see the match MMR change for each match, as well as a list of match history, the best part? Every match's replay is downloadable!!!

02/10/2023 Update:
Short name kick are disabled, since system have been stablized, it should be relatively easy to catch up on those now.

Add bot as a friend, catch it easier!
GoldLich#21150 => General Lobby
PlumGnoll#21363 => General Lobby
LilacWight#21113 => 1650+ Gosu Lobby for easier access!

The bot's overall responsiveness has been improved

2/12/2023 Update:
Letter ranks are now calculated on homepage!
The site https://24hbwmmrbot.azurewebsites.net/dashboard/3v3 has been upgraded to use caching ,so the data can be anywhere from 0~10 minutes lagged behind real time data depending on when did you get to see the site. But once the site loads the first time for any user, they can freely browse the site without lagging issue. Also, come to see your letter rank!! S/A/B/C/D/E are calculate on profile page now, they will soon be displayed on main ranking page too once we get our hands on the art assets.

2/16/2023 Update:
https://scranked.com/ or https://24hsc.com/ is now the new url for checking out your ranked and everything else
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
ted.
Profile Joined October 2008
United States84 Posts
February 04 2023 12:31 GMT
#2
I will happily donate to you to buy more accounts for more bots, or for whatever other purposes you may need. I am sure others would too.

I think a bot like this on west is an amazing idea and I really
Hope you all are able to build upon and maybe even improve the work done with the eu bot.
The best way to predict your future is to create it
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1544 Posts
February 04 2023 14:37 GMT
#3
Nice!
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
lastscer
Profile Joined October 2012
14 Posts
February 04 2023 16:22 GMT
#4
Very impressive work! Look forward to enjoying the bot games on west!
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
February 04 2023 16:25 GMT
#5
Very cool! Is there a specific channel for people to meet up? How do players play rank?
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
February 04 2023 19:19 GMT
#6
You can find the bot hosting either 2v2 3v3 4v4 BGH map games on US west server at random times, It's coming online more and more since it's getting more stable and fixes.

The current known issues are:

Due to my laziness and how fast we got it working from scratch, it is not the most responsive bot you can find it out there.
Currently it checks the lobby every 10 seconds or so to take an action. So be patient with me for this part until I make further improvement on the logic.

When it's going private mode, only people who are in the clan or friends who are bot's friend list can join, that's usually when the clan members are online and demand private rated match. Other than that I am trying to throw the bot up as much as I can right now.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
February 04 2023 20:45 GMT
#7
Good job! Will replays be released? That would be awesome!
https://repmastered.icza.net
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
February 04 2023 20:53 GMT
#8
Yes the replays are all saved so far, it's currently hosted on azure, there will be plan to make player profile page on the site, and match history, and match page.

But we have not got around to make those part of the project yet. So yes, replays will definitely be able to download.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10037 Posts
February 05 2023 00:22 GMT
#9
so all we have to do is join the pub games and it'll keep track of our stats automatically?
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
February 05 2023 02:01 GMT
#10
Yes, that's correct. All you gotta do is join the pub games

Whatever ID you use in game, the actual MMR calculation is consistent.

The only issue is sometime in the lobby , the text to image software may not match you with the right player in the database, so the auto balancing might be a bit funky from time to time. Otherwise it works pretty good

As of latest update, I've added illegal name check, and the first rule is the bot doesn't allow barcode users. As it has issue detecting such user name in the lobby and can cause unfriendly game experience.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10037 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 03:55:35
February 05 2023 02:26 GMT
#11
good stuff, ty for ur work 👍

edit: it would be nice to have a proper version of bgh with good main base gas and mineral mining tho, for a map that's this popular/old it's weird that we still don't have a modern version of it :D
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
LlunTo
Profile Joined October 2022
7 Posts
February 05 2023 05:47 GMT
#12
Que buen trabajo Felicitaciones!!
Eso faltaba en West, pero tengo una consulta hay algunos juegos que necesitan Password, cual seria la contraseña para poder ingresar a su juego ??
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
February 05 2023 06:21 GMT
#13
On February 05 2023 11:26 TT1 wrote:
good stuff, ty for ur work 👍

edit: it would be nice to have a proper version of bgh with good main base gas and mineral mining tho, for a map that's this popular/old it's weird that we still don't have a modern version of it :D


Would be great if you can point one to me, or pm with one, I got a random BGH map from a friend when I started working on this. It's a very easy swap
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
February 05 2023 06:23 GMT
#14
On February 05 2023 14:47 LlunTo wrote:
Que buen trabajo Felicitaciones!!
Eso faltaba en West, pero tengo una consulta hay algunos juegos que necesitan Password, cual seria la contraseña para poder ingresar a su juego ??


Gracias! Cuando el juego público esté disponible, no se necesita contraseña para unirse.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States685 Posts
February 05 2023 08:57 GMT
#15
On February 05 2023 01:22 lastscer wrote:
Very impressive work! Look forward to enjoying the bot games on west!


Thank you Scan senpai <3

Once the bot is more stable, it should be online by itself when it hits Asia peak time too. hopefully I can figure out how to scale up more bot instances with virtual machines. Right now it is running on 2 physical machine.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2368 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 13:13:31
February 05 2023 09:06 GMT
#16
On February 05 2023 15:21 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2023 11:26 TT1 wrote:
good stuff, ty for ur work 👍

edit: it would be nice to have a proper version of bgh with good main base gas and mineral mining tho, for a map that's this popular/old it's weird that we still don't have a modern version of it :D


Would be great if you can point one to me, or pm with one, I got a random BGH map from a friend when I started working on this. It's a very easy swap

On repmastered.app, "Big Game Hunters" has 191 variations (exact name match)!

https://repmastered.app/map/Big Game Hunters

You can view images of all, and you can download each variation (at the bottom in the Variations table).

But I believe majority of BGH players prefer the original one (that's by far the most played one). The BGHMmr bot on EU also uses the original version.

You can also view all "Big game" classified maps here, there are 115 of them:

https://repmastered.app/maps?mapClass=B

These are maps that are similar to Big Game Hunters, but often use different tileset, UMS rules or map / resource variations.
https://repmastered.icza.net
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9538 Posts
February 05 2023 10:49 GMT
#17
On February 05 2023 11:26 TT1 wrote:
good stuff, ty for ur work 👍

edit: it would be nice to have a proper version of bgh with good main base gas and mineral mining tho, for a map that's this popular/old it's weird that we still don't have a modern version of it :D

Wtf tt1, leave our BGH alone!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-09 23:12:56
February 05 2023 11:15 GMT
#18
On February 04 2023 13:20 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
This will allow easier data processing, currently the bot relies on buggy OCR(image to text) detection on screen for bulk of the user recognition, which has been shown to be inconsistent in some cases.

Something you could likely do to avoid any OCR (at least for managing the lobby, not sure that it would help for anything you may do with the score screen) is modify the HTML/JS used to render lobbies to report things to some locally running server. To do that you need to set a registry key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Blizzard Entertainment\Starcraft\


Set a DWORD key "Allow Local Files" to 1

Having done that you can replace any files in the game's CASC (browse this with CascView) by putting them in:

<StarCraft Dir>\<Path In CASC>


So you could e.g. extract the game lobby JS, modify it to also report stuff to your bot program, and place it in

StarCraft\webui\dist\GameLobbyPanel\GameLobbyPanel.js


(This is how W3Champions works in Warcraft 3, FWIW)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
ted.
Profile Joined October 2008
United States84 Posts
February 05 2023 13:23 GMT
#19
Please don’t use any updated version of bgh. The original is perfect and I’m sure many people would not be happy with some of those new versions. Especially the ones with cliffs removed.

Thanks for all the good work! Really excited about this!
The best way to predict your future is to create it
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10037 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 17:54:11
February 05 2023 17:47 GMT
#20
?? what cliffs, im only talking about updating the mineral positioning for each base so they mine and return their cargo without doing zigzags all over the map

there's a million shitty versions of them already :D
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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