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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 13 2023 16:18 GMT
#81
On February 13 2023 23:44 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
There seems to be a bug.

Current #1 is pjc55104955 who only has 2 games (2 wins). Delta MMRs are +184 and +154, and currently he has 4436 MMR, way above the #2 (having MMR 3017).


That is fixed now.

It had to do some change I had in past 2 days.
Some corner super edge case that had about 30 user that can trigger this sort of behavior. It’s all fixed and handled now. Data is consistent now in term of rating. The player stats for some of these player maybe off. But that’s minor and does not affect system as a whole in anyway.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-14 07:59:17
February 14 2023 02:53 GMT
#82
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
sitonchair
Profile Joined April 2022
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-14 23:34:44
February 14 2023 23:33 GMT
#83
Any plans to deal with new accounts?

I think they're the biggest problem right now.

Perhaps if that is fixed, the top player's won't leave abuse as much.

2 things that would help are:

1) Minimum games, to reduce the 1500 players

2) Generate a MMR for new players based on their wins and games played.

e.g. ruleset:
50 game minimum to play
New player starting MMR is 800 to 1800 based on their account's win rate where a 50-0 player would be at 1800 and a 0-50 player would be at 800 and a 25-25 player would be 1300
Give 10 bonus MMR per 50 games on the account
Cap starting MMR at 2000
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
February 14 2023 23:50 GMT
#84
can you de-active cancel game when a player in game waiting? re-active when everyone leaves the game. Sometime the game almost full players the timer comes and cancel game and the waiting game again.
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 15 2023 03:39 GMT
#85
On February 15 2023 08:33 sitonchair wrote:
Any plans to deal with new accounts?

I think they're the biggest problem right now.

Perhaps if that is fixed, the top player's won't leave abuse as much.

2 things that would help are:

1) Minimum games, to reduce the 1500 players

2) Generate a MMR for new players based on their wins and games played.

e.g. ruleset:
50 game minimum to play
New player starting MMR is 800 to 1800 based on their account's win rate where a 50-0 player would be at 1800 and a 0-50 player would be at 800 and a 25-25 player would be 1300
Give 10 bonus MMR per 50 games on the account
Cap starting MMR at 2000


Setting up Gosu lobby later more when players are more used to the ladder games. I throw it up on Monday, 0 gosu lobby game played, it was such a low usage(0%) I decided to just not put it up for a while.

Gosu lobby bar currently set to 1650, but will probably higher given the general user base MMR has increased a lot since this number was last set.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 15 2023 03:40 GMT
#86
On February 15 2023 08:50 End1ess wrote:
can you de-active cancel game when a player in game waiting? re-active when everyone leaves the game. Sometime the game almost full players the timer comes and cancel game and the waiting game again.



It should be in a good state for this now, I set it to if it is less than 2 people to expected player. so in 3v3 4/6, it will not rehost, rather keep waiting until that number dips below.

Otherwise rehosting it since it may not be on top of the lobby list and people just have a hard time joining.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
February 15 2023 04:58 GMT
#87
On February 15 2023 12:40 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2023 08:50 End1ess wrote:
can you de-active cancel game when a player in game waiting? re-active when everyone leaves the game. Sometime the game almost full players the timer comes and cancel game and the waiting game again.



It should be in a good state for this now, I set it to if it is less than 2 people to expected player. so in 3v3 4/6, it will not rehost, rather keep waiting until that number dips below.

Otherwise rehosting it since it may not be on top of the lobby list and people just have a hard time joining.


Awesome thank you
ted.
Profile Joined October 2008
United States81 Posts
February 17 2023 03:27 GMT
#88
Amazing work. Your bot is really helping to bring some more life back into the scene, thanks again man.

One thing that would be nice IMO is if when people join games if alongside their mmr we could see their record. I think sometimes its nice to know if someone's mmr is based on 4 games or 40 games. Seems like helpful information.

Thanks again!!!
The best way to predict your future is to create it
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
February 17 2023 05:31 GMT
#89
Actually the more info you get the more reason you have to leave. Only rank/rating should be shown.

If beginners are suppose to become better they need to blend with better players. Having score revealing that will encourage canceling games.

The old days noone cared about stats until stats were implemented.
-.-
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 17 2023 12:45 GMT
#90
https://scranked.com/ or https://24hsc.com/ is now the new URL to check out the ranked leaderboard.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 17 2023 12:46 GMT
#91
On February 17 2023 12:27 ted. wrote:
Amazing work. Your bot is really helping to bring some more life back into the scene, thanks again man.

One thing that would be nice IMO is if when people join games if alongside their mmr we could see their record. I think sometimes its nice to know if someone's mmr is based on 4 games or 40 games. Seems like helpful information.

Thanks again!!!


Thanks! Yeah I've had other people asking similar question too, right now there is no plan to change any of these, but in the future we might consider things such as factor in the win rate and number of games at lower rank when balancing the game, showing stats may not be the best idea as people might just want to leave.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 17 2023 12:47 GMT
#92
On February 17 2023 14:31 MeSaber wrote:
Actually the more info you get the more reason you have to leave. Only rank/rating should be shown.

If beginners are suppose to become better they need to blend with better players. Having score revealing that will encourage canceling games.

The old days noone cared about stats until stats were implemented.



Agreed, as I've mentioned in the future we might consider things such as factor in the win rate and number of games at lower rank when balancing the game, showing stats may not be the best idea as people might just want to leave.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1593 Posts
February 17 2023 14:16 GMT
#93
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 18 2023 14:59 GMT
#94
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2347 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-18 17:36:42
February 18 2023 17:36 GMT
#95
On February 18 2023 23:59 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.

A suggestion: you could upload the replay to https://repmastered.app, put a link next the match linking to the game on repmastered.app, and there everyone can see all kinds of info, stats, and analysis.
https://repmastered.icza.net
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 18 2023 19:10 GMT
#96
On February 19 2023 02:36 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2023 23:59 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.

A suggestion: you could upload the replay to https://repmastered.app, put a link next the match linking to the game on repmastered.app, and there everyone can see all kinds of info, stats, and analysis.



Is there an API to upload the replay or I kinda have to figure that out inspecting the upload button ? :D

And by the way, much thanks to your work to make this whole ladder project possible.

Currently all the replay on the ladder page is hosted on Azure Blob Storage service.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2347 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-18 20:04:33
February 18 2023 19:34 GMT
#97
On February 19 2023 04:10 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2023 02:36 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On February 18 2023 23:59 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.

A suggestion: you could upload the replay to https://repmastered.app, put a link next the match linking to the game on repmastered.app, and there everyone can see all kinds of info, stats, and analysis.



Is there an API to upload the replay or I kinda have to figure that out inspecting the upload button ? :D

And by the way, much thanks to your work to make this whole ladder project possible.

Currently all the replay on the ladder page is hosted on Azure Blob Storage service.

There's no API, but uploading a replay is nothing more than a simple HTTP form POST. All programming languages support "mimicing" a form POST. You can also upload multiple replays with a single POST. The result is an HTML document holding the links to games of the uploaded replays.

Also note that uploading an existing replay causes no harm: you get back the link to the game page. If someone else already uploaded his replay of the same game, that is also not a problem: repmastered.app detects if multiple replays of the same game are uploaded and are "grouped" into a single game. You can select, analyze and download each replay individually. As an example here's a game I played with your bot and uploaded my replay, then I also downloaded the replay of my game from your site (saved by the bot): https://repmastered.app/game/mhj4Dl-ROtYZe4M-LZo7NMvkLi4Ai59fhAyEGM8oCVE

Let me know if you want to do it, and I'll assist you.

P.S. Past 24H mmr bot replays are already uploaded to repmastered.app.
https://repmastered.icza.net
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
February 18 2023 21:25 GMT
#98
On February 19 2023 04:34 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2023 04:10 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 19 2023 02:36 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On February 18 2023 23:59 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.

A suggestion: you could upload the replay to https://repmastered.app, put a link next the match linking to the game on repmastered.app, and there everyone can see all kinds of info, stats, and analysis.



Is there an API to upload the replay or I kinda have to figure that out inspecting the upload button ? :D

And by the way, much thanks to your work to make this whole ladder project possible.

Currently all the replay on the ladder page is hosted on Azure Blob Storage service.

There's no API, but uploading a replay is nothing more than a simple HTTP form POST. All programming languages support "mimicing" a form POST. You can also upload multiple replays with a single POST. The result is an HTML document holding the links to games of the uploaded replays.

Also note that uploading an existing replay causes no harm: you get back the link to the game page. If someone else already uploaded his replay of the same game, that is also not a problem: repmastered.app detects if multiple replays of the same game are uploaded and are "grouped" into a single game. You can select, analyze and download each replay individually. As an example here's a game I played with your bot and uploaded my replay, then I also downloaded the replay of my game from your site (saved by the bot): https://repmastered.app/game/mhj4Dl-ROtYZe4M-LZo7NMvkLi4Ai59fhAyEGM8oCVE

Let me know if you want to do it, and I'll assist you.

P.S. Past 24H mmr bot replays are already uploaded to repmastered.app.


How do you find all reps from BGHmmr and 24H on the site? Is it possible to tag these games? It would be nice to be able to find just those games, i guess i could look for the ingame bot if the replays record observer slots.
-.-
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States652 Posts
February 18 2023 21:28 GMT
#99
On February 19 2023 04:34 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2023 04:10 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 19 2023 02:36 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On February 18 2023 23:59 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.

A suggestion: you could upload the replay to https://repmastered.app, put a link next the match linking to the game on repmastered.app, and there everyone can see all kinds of info, stats, and analysis.



Is there an API to upload the replay or I kinda have to figure that out inspecting the upload button ? :D

And by the way, much thanks to your work to make this whole ladder project possible.

Currently all the replay on the ladder page is hosted on Azure Blob Storage service.

There's no API, but uploading a replay is nothing more than a simple HTTP form POST. All programming languages support "mimicing" a form POST. You can also upload multiple replays with a single POST. The result is an HTML document holding the links to games of the uploaded replays.

Also note that uploading an existing replay causes no harm: you get back the link to the game page. If someone else already uploaded his replay of the same game, that is also not a problem: repmastered.app detects if multiple replays of the same game are uploaded and are "grouped" into a single game. You can select, analyze and download each replay individually. As an example here's a game I played with your bot and uploaded my replay, then I also downloaded the replay of my game from your site (saved by the bot): https://repmastered.app/game/mhj4Dl-ROtYZe4M-LZo7NMvkLi4Ai59fhAyEGM8oCVE

Let me know if you want to do it, and I'll assist you.

P.S. Past 24H mmr bot replays are already uploaded to repmastered.app.


That's a great suggestion, however, until these bots are actually moved into a cloud server in the future if they do, I would probably do something like that. Right now I do not feel comfortable making such post request on my end.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
Dakota_Fanning *
Profile Joined January 2008
Hungary2347 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-18 21:50:19
February 18 2023 21:48 GMT
#100
On February 19 2023 06:25 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2023 04:34 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On February 19 2023 04:10 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 19 2023 02:36 Dakota_Fanning wrote:
On February 18 2023 23:59 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote:
On February 17 2023 23:16 EndingLife wrote:
Can you add apm/eapm to the profiles on leaderboard?



When I get to next round of development, that's possible to add, no plan in near future for this tho.

A suggestion: you could upload the replay to https://repmastered.app, put a link next the match linking to the game on repmastered.app, and there everyone can see all kinds of info, stats, and analysis.



Is there an API to upload the replay or I kinda have to figure that out inspecting the upload button ? :D

And by the way, much thanks to your work to make this whole ladder project possible.

Currently all the replay on the ladder page is hosted on Azure Blob Storage service.

There's no API, but uploading a replay is nothing more than a simple HTTP form POST. All programming languages support "mimicing" a form POST. You can also upload multiple replays with a single POST. The result is an HTML document holding the links to games of the uploaded replays.

Also note that uploading an existing replay causes no harm: you get back the link to the game page. If someone else already uploaded his replay of the same game, that is also not a problem: repmastered.app detects if multiple replays of the same game are uploaded and are "grouped" into a single game. You can select, analyze and download each replay individually. As an example here's a game I played with your bot and uploaded my replay, then I also downloaded the replay of my game from your site (saved by the bot): https://repmastered.app/game/mhj4Dl-ROtYZe4M-LZo7NMvkLi4Ai59fhAyEGM8oCVE

Let me know if you want to do it, and I'll assist you.

P.S. Past 24H mmr bot replays are already uploaded to repmastered.app.


How do you find all reps from BGHmmr and 24H on the site? Is it possible to tag these games? It would be nice to be able to find just those games, i guess i could look for the ingame bot if the replays record observer slots.


Currently this is not possible, I might add this feature in the future.

Note however that if you log in, you can manually tag games and list only tagged games. But this is a manual process, not automatic.
https://repmastered.icza.net
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