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Adrenaline Seed

United States194 Posts

August 12 2011 18:13 GMT

#61

On August 11 2011 10:23 wTENnONE wrote:
Can I join? wTENnONE.842

What iS the build order and when do I expand?

There is a couple replays with the build and some info on expanding in the tips.

davidk

49 Posts

August 12 2011 21:23 GMT

#62

Okay. I do want to try this. But i do not have a lot of time to play so i'm to lazy to figure out the build order from the replay. Did someonelse do this? Can you please post it?

\thanks in advance.

DCSemi

Canada10 Posts

August 12 2011 23:30 GMT

#63

Just tried that for almost an hour... Wow, I love this build.

Can't wait to try it on ladders!

So to those who are newb, like me, (I'm a Bronze Leaguer), just feel free to add me so we can disscuss and stuff like that, I'm not playing as often as I would like because of life obligations (work, girlfriend, etc.) but I'm trying to be a better SC2 player because I just love this game.

So, feel free to add UncleCarlos.549 (No, I'm not mexican haha

)

@Adrenaline Seed: Thanks a BUNCH for this build! (y)

Adrenaline Seed

United States194 Posts

August 13 2011 00:08 GMT

#64

On August 13 2011 08:30 DCSemi wrote:

@Adrenaline Seed: Thanks a BUNCH for this build! (y)

Oh I can't take credit for the build. It is from way back in Beta, simple and strong throughout with a great timing attack. I think I learned it or a variation of it watching Trump in the beta days, and I think it originally came from some pro-gamers within the first couple days of beta perhaps.

Anyways I chose it for the reasons described.

Good to hear your enjoying it though, every inexperienced player should know about this build or they will be overly frustrated with the game.

Adrenaline Seed

United States194 Posts

August 13 2011 00:34 GMT

#65

On August 13 2011 06:23 davidk wrote:
Okay. I do want to try this. But i do not have a lot of time to play so i'm to lazy to figure out the build order from the replay. Did someonelse do this? Can you please post it?

\thanks in advance.

I posted the build order by food under Phase 1 in the OP.

kcaZyz

16 Posts

August 13 2011 00:57 GMT

#66

This sounds great, does anyone know if there is something similar for protoss? I'm a low level toss, and I really don't know what the best way to improve is, besides playing more games.

~kcaZ

Flukeovski

Australia2 Posts

August 13 2011 04:25 GMT

#67

Hi, First off, thank you. I've been a very frustrated gold player for a while now, my mechanics have been sorely lacking and this is just what I need to improve. I have now completed step two against AI with no problem (I can hit 50 supply watching only the marine on the watch tower by 6:40) I would really like to practice the exercises in step three. I'm on the Australia, New Zealand and SE Asia Server. Flukeovski 270. If there is any one out there that I can reciprocally practice with that'd be appreciated. Otherwise I can spend some time on the NA server, just not sure how time zones will match up.

davidk

49 Posts

August 13 2011 05:27 GMT

#68

On August 13 2011 09:34 Adrenaline Seed wrote:

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I posted the build order by food under Phase 1 in the OP.

Damn. I really looked over it. Sorry dude. Gonna practice with it right away :D

Adrenaline Seed

United States194 Posts

August 13 2011 05:47 GMT

#69

On August 13 2011 14:27 davidk wrote:

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Damn. I really looked over it. Sorry dude. Gonna practice with it right away :D

Nah, I mean I posted it in response to your request, it was not there before.

Highvelocity

United States16 Posts

August 13 2011 08:05 GMT

#70

This is like exactly what I've been looking for... the biggest difference in my play and any pro game I watch is how fast and freely they move all over the map with their screen. I tend to find myself hovering over my base a lot more than I'd like too or on top of my army. This also seems to create a sense of panic whenever something happens because I usually have to readjust to get there before I can even react to it.

Thanks for this excellent idea!

colonelvirus

United Kingdom42 Posts

August 13 2011 09:09 GMT

#71

Loving this, had a go last night, I'm currently top 8 Silver with consistent wins against gold players, so hoping to get moved up soonish. So far I've only done phase 1 as I only do pure bio against protoss, and for that I normally do a 1 rax FE into 3 rax for fast econ, sometimes I change it up if I'm getting 4 gated or DT rushed.

I've basically learnt the build after messing around with it for a few games and I've got to a point where I'm sitting on roughly 49-51 food in most games with stim done and con shell half way complete at the 6:40 mark. I'm still trying to work out why I'm not always getting over 50+ food at 6:40, I think it has to do with my slight delays in supply depot timings, or the possible very tight money situation where I'm behind by like 5-10 minerals. Going to start phase 2 today, should be fun. I'm on the EU server though, I've got a couple of friends that are going to attempt this as well, really cool idea thanks man. I was trying to do this sort of thing on my own, but it's hard when your still learning the game and match ups, your not sure what to work on half the time.

DCSemi

Canada10 Posts

August 13 2011 23:44 GMT

#72

Would it be viable to put a Reactor on the 3rd Rax to pump 4x Marines at a time instead of a Marauders?

I was wondering that while practicing this build.

What are your thoughts on that??

Adrenaline Seed

United States194 Posts

August 14 2011 21:59 GMT

#73

On August 14 2011 08:44 DCSemi wrote:
Would it be viable to put a Reactor on the 3rd Rax to pump 4x Marines at a time instead of a Marauders?

I was wondering that while practicing this build.

What are your thoughts on that??

You would need to pull a worker out of gas. It would not be good for a general 7 minute push. Marauders are good against bunkers, siege tanks, stalkers, zelots, banelings, and roaches. Perhaps for some other strategy.

DCSemi

Canada10 Posts

August 14 2011 23:24 GMT

#74

Why o why pulling the worker from getting gas? (im very noobish :p)

mr_flux

23 Posts

August 15 2011 00:27 GMT

#75

This is kinda like something I just recently came up with. I am a bronze player myself and highly suggest this to other bronze players, play vs very easy ai on xel naga and try to constantly run a worker around the center of the map. No shift-queueing, no stops. And all the while execute your build. You'll be amazed how this speeds up your game.

Ammoth

Sweden391 Posts

August 15 2011 09:13 GMT

#76

On August 15 2011 08:24 DCSemi wrote:
Why o why pulling the worker from getting gas? (im very noobish :p)

Otherwise you would get excess gas which you cant spend with only one techlab

Unlogical

Sweden5 Posts

August 15 2011 16:43 GMT

#77

On July 23 2011 07:19 Adrenaline Seed wrote:
Here is the build order by food count
[spoiler]
10-Supply
12-Rax
13-Refinery
15-Orbital
15-Marine
16-Supply
16-Tech Lab
20-Marauder Repeat When complete <---
21-Stim
21-Rax
24-Supply
27-Rax
28-Supply
28-Reactor
32-Supply
35-Tech Lab
35-Double Marine Repeat When complete
38-Supply
38-Shells
38-Maurader Repeat When complete
46-Supply

In your replay you build your first Marauder @ 18 food.

Stil

United Kingdom206 Posts

August 15 2011 16:58 GMT

#78

Hi - I love this. After zerging for seasons one and two I fancy a change of race and this was a really good series of exercises to get me ready for laddering, many thanks <3

Adrenaline Seed

United States194 Posts

August 15 2011 17:35 GMT

#79

On August 16 2011 01:43 Unlogical wrote:

In your replay you build your first Marauder @ 18 food.

Thanks, fixed.

NewbieOne

Poland560 Posts

August 15 2011 20:10 GMT

#80

Hey, nice idea and the coaching method intuitively sounds good. I'm a gold terran but I've played RTS games for like 16 years now (though mostly campaigns). I simply can't ever progress beyond a certain level, there are things that block me, including certain aspects of micro and macro that rely on coordination (I have a diagnosed problem with that) or multitasking. Around my peak time in TFT the guys I beat sometimes had four times my average APM (burst was more even, which is telling). According to my friend whom I actually taught to play (and he went on to play in top clans while I remained mid-skilled) and to my own observations, I was losing tons of games I shouldn't be, for strange reasons. It might be a good thing finally to fix these reasons after all these years of playing RTS. I'm inclined to think your set of exercises should be helpful in my case (though I can probably pull off #1 easily and would be tempted to skip to #3).

If I may chime in, I'd recommend that any new players (sort of like those guys you suggest come back in a month) wishing to improve to finish the Challenges first and get gold in all of them. As in, it doesn't make you gosu, but it's going to give you a grasp of things.

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