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Randomaccount111
Profile Joined July 2011
29 Posts
July 25 2011 18:31 GMT
#21
Im interested in both lessons and helping also. I'm home from work @ 4 (eastern time) and have Tuesdays/Weds off. I'll PM you with my accounts.
p1cKLes
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
July 25 2011 20:33 GMT
#22
I could see where this would come in handy. I’m brand new to RTS games. I’m ranked Gold, but if I’m to be honest I’m probably more of a Platinum Player, but I very rarely ladder, because I’m typically too busy practicing mechanics. I’ve been doing YABOT and similar practicing for probably a year now. I’ve increased my APM from what was 20 to 80-90 and can usually execute my build order to a T. Sometimes I mess up, but not often.

And I can tell you that my weakest areas (probably because of the way I trained) are constantly watching the minimap, poor scouting, my 3rd expansion isn’t early enough, map control and having the ability to always have my camera on the map rather than my base. For whatever reasons I have a very difficult time constantly roaming around the map maintain vision and being able to switch back to the base to build. That transition part and feeling comfortable doing it is where I lack. I think that’s what keeps me from excelling to that diamond level.

I’m absolutely interested in learning the game and being able to analyze what’s going on versus having some preplanned build order that is going to allow me to win 70% of the time, because when you end up in the 30% you don’t know what to do based on what you are seeing.

I’m definitely going to try this…especially phase 2. Thanks for the write up!
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
July 25 2011 23:07 GMT
#23
On July 26 2011 02:22 PinoyfuryZ wrote:
Adrenaline Seed. I am interested in both lessons and helping out with practice. I live in PST time also but I do not get off work until 6. I want to get back to learning fundamentals because I feel like I am lacking them.


Great! Post you B.net info if you would like me to add it to the OP.
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
PinoyfuryZ
Profile Joined October 2010
United States36 Posts
July 26 2011 00:51 GMT
#24
PinoyfuryZ
Code: 411
For without struggle, there is no progross.
Top Ramen
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1 Post
July 26 2011 05:15 GMT
#25
I am definitely interested in lessons. I would really like to improve my game play.
TopRamen
Character Code: 279
zimmy130
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
July 26 2011 14:45 GMT
#26
If still available, I would appreciate a lesson. Thank you for investing your time in to a free efficent coaching style for us to learn from, before even speaking to you.

Zimmy.107
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
July 27 2011 13:52 GMT
#27
This is actually very very helpful. Thank you v much for this. I'm gonna log on and try it out right now.
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
delta9r9r
Profile Joined May 2011
18 Posts
July 27 2011 16:13 GMT
#28
This looks quite interesting, although I play protoss. I think I will try do this concept with a 4 gate or 3 gate robo and see if I can't upload some replays for you guys :D. This looks like an exciting project.
skoko
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada4 Posts
July 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#29
This is really what I need right now. I have added you to my friends and hope that you can help me out! Would like to get started on this asap if that is possible.

Again, what an awesome opportunity, I'm glad there are people like you who like to help others.
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
July 27 2011 23:55 GMT
#30
On July 28 2011 01:13 delta9r9r wrote:
This looks quite interesting, although I play protoss. I think I will try do this concept with a 4 gate or 3 gate robo and see if I can't upload some replays for you guys :D. This looks like an exciting project.


Those sound like good builds for a Protoss to use with this exercise. Perhaps a 4 gate to keep things simple. First zelot moves to watchtower? Or a probe after you have populated gas if that does not fit. No pylons at the watchtower!
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
July 28 2011 01:15 GMT
#31
I'm interested. Even though my profile says diamond I play random and my terran is gold/plat level.
Superjac
code: 879
"If you give up on yourself, you give up on the world."
ZaeZSC
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada15 Posts
July 28 2011 01:16 GMT
#32
I'm more than willing to help as the protoss player, or practice all this with other players (maybe have practice 1v1's where we both just watch the watchtower type thing and see howe we both do. etc

I'm a high gold player (probably plat level skill) but need serious refining of my mechanics (I still hotkey all my units on one hotkey and put my nexus on 1 :S)

ZaeZ.131
Auross
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil104 Posts
July 28 2011 01:25 GMT
#33
Very intereting program!

I'd like to participate if possible, I'm a random player and T is by far my worst race.

Auross.127
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
July 28 2011 19:05 GMT
#34
On July 28 2011 10:16 ZaeZSC wrote:
I'm a high gold player (probably plat level skill) but need serious refining of my mechanics (I still hotkey all my units on one hotkey and put my nexus on 1 :S)

ZaeZ.131


Multiple army/production control groups is not something I stress on very much. I am not saying it is not helpful when you are at masters level. However for most it can be too much of a distraction. You can perform very well with less hotkeys, download some reps of MMA's TvZ style where he uses 1 for all units (until he gets ghosts) as an example.
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
Banchan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 19:17:58
July 28 2011 19:16 GMT
#35
I am a masters toss trying to learn terran and this really helps a lot. I am somewhat tempted to skip phase 1 though >.<

Banchan #483 AM server if anyone wants to give me some help
I am also willing to be a practice partner for phase 3
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
July 28 2011 22:21 GMT
#36
On July 29 2011 04:16 Banchan wrote:
I am a masters toss trying to learn terran and this really helps a lot. I am somewhat tempted to skip phase 1 though >.<

Banchan #483 AM server if anyone wants to give me some help
I am also willing to be a practice partner for phase 3


I would suggest if you are masters to use your standard go-to build with Phase 2 and Phase 3 instead of 3rax. Don't be surprised if it's harder than it looks though.
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
Ubeta
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore4 Posts
July 28 2011 22:39 GMT
#37
I can help with the minimap awareness test in phase 3.

Ubeta.567
Call Down The Thunder
Banchan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
July 28 2011 23:09 GMT
#38
On July 29 2011 07:21 Adrenaline Seed wrote:
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On July 29 2011 04:16 Banchan wrote:
I am a masters toss trying to learn terran and this really helps a lot. I am somewhat tempted to skip phase 1 though >.<

Banchan #483 AM server if anyone wants to give me some help
I am also willing to be a practice partner for phase 3


I would suggest if you are masters to use your standard go-to build with Phase 2 and Phase 3 instead of 3rax. Don't be surprised if it's harder than it looks though.


haha I am fully expecting it to be hard (or rather, i already tried once and failed). Protoss doesn't really have rallies or worker management so I need to work on that.
GUImperfect
Profile Joined April 2011
Guam23 Posts
July 28 2011 23:09 GMT
#39
i can help with phase 3.
Imperfect.459 NA
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Adrenaline Seed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States194 Posts
August 01 2011 22:29 GMT
#40
On July 29 2011 08:09 Banchan wrote:
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On July 29 2011 07:21 Adrenaline Seed wrote:
On July 29 2011 04:16 Banchan wrote:
I am a masters toss trying to learn terran and this really helps a lot. I am somewhat tempted to skip phase 1 though >.<

Banchan #483 AM server if anyone wants to give me some help
I am also willing to be a practice partner for phase 3


I would suggest if you are masters to use your standard go-to build with Phase 2 and Phase 3 instead of 3rax. Don't be surprised if it's harder than it looks though.


haha I am fully expecting it to be hard (or rather, i already tried once and failed). Protoss doesn't really have rallies or worker management so I need to work on that.


I am not sure how toss players exactly manage warping in units. But I would guess it is more often clicking near a pylon on the minimap than using camera positions or going all the way back to their base. This might be the best way to do it for practice.
Think Big. Act Small. Fail Fast. Learn Quickly.
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