[H]Entrance Master League. PvT Mass thors - Page 5

On January 17 2011 18:41 stroggos wrote:
if he is 1 shotting all of your immortals perhaps you should get hallucinate so he uses his cannons on your hallucinations. Anyhow, i dunno how you can be losing to mass thors, immortals are much cheaper so even if some are getting cannon'ed, you should be outnumbering him.

if they are meching off 2 base i think its safe to expand to 4 base, there you can support carriers.

On January 17 2011 19:27 BBC.807 wrote:
Iv'e encounterd this several times as well, by the time i saw his Thors i was already maxed out with a typical PVT army (stalker, zealot, temp, colossi) - so when i saw him i threw up addition 2 robo (3 in total) and a DT shrine.

I attacked and lost - he rolled over a couple of xpo's before my 9 immortals, several DT and mazz zealot rolled him over.

I also made a couple of temps to take care of the SCV that repair. I have an a replay back home if anyone want to see?

(2600 diamon)

On January 17 2011 19:48 perser84 wrote:
the real reason why you had lost
was that the terran got his blue flame hellion succesfully serveral times in your base

in other word it delayed eco army no timing

imo his amry was only marauder and thor
i highly doubt that you can win with mass gateway units and few immortals
and 20% of your stalker was not in position to fight when the main fight begun
and you get
the other thing
you wonder why you lost ?
you didnt harrased him at all

but imo
mass thors are scary and he had not even uppgrades
imagine 2/1 or 3/0 uppgrades on thors

On January 16 2011 20:01 Zacsafus wrote:


In fact i believe that magic box adds more skill to the game, the only bad part to it is that it makes thors completely worthless as anti air against anything. For example against zerg if they magic box their mutas, thors actually do less damage than a single stimmed marine because their splash isnt hitting anything.

The splash on the thors is to jsut punish bad micro, kind of makes it a game changing factor, meaning micro can have a huge impact on a fight. Only problem is that magic box is pretty easy to do :S Gief thors valkyrie attacks plz!!!

On January 18 2011 00:40 Champ24 wrote:
I'm having trouble with thors as well.

I played a T on steppes of war who went fast 2nd gas, so I felt safe with a 1 gate FE. I dropped a robo, chronod an obs and saw a single Thor. I then chrono boosted immortals nonstop.

He pushed out with a raven, 3 thors, scvs and maybe 15 marines. I had 5 or 6 immortals, 10ish zealots, 2 sentries, 6 stalkers. I thought I had a great composition to fight him since he never killed my obs...I could have done anything I wanted.

However, I got faceplanted, even focus firing the thors with immortals. The marines were focusing the immortal shields to nothing and the strike cannons of the thors cleaned up the rest.

I was clearly benefitting from the expo when he pushed, so I don't think it was a BO victory from him.

I didn't save the replay, but my limited experience of goin immortals to fight thors was not great. I'll try VR heavy next time I see it.

On January 18 2011 02:10 Excludos wrote:


What you're describing here seems to be more of a thor rush than a mass thor build. The usual way to deal with this (altough, I havent seen your replay, so I can't know for sure) is to sack your expo and move all your units up the ramp.

Sure you'll lose quite a bit of income, but seeing as he 1. probably hasn't expanded and 2. Pulled SCVs off the mineral line to repair his thors, you should still be plenty ahead. Keep pushing out units and your army should eventually overwhelm him. If he tried to push up your ramp, make sure to play around with the forcefield. Even though thors break ff, they tend to get stuck with marines between them, and unable to move either way.

On January 18 2011 02:31 Champ24 wrote:


Yes, it was more of a rush than a drawn out game.

I'm not sure sacing the expo is the right move. He can sit outside the ramp with his thors and that would be incredibly difficult to break. Meanwhile, he expands and I lose the macro game.

If he pushed up I should easily win with concaved units, but the correct move for him is to camp and contain. The thors would eat anything that tries to walk out alive.

On January 18 2011 02:08 AbyssArray wrote:
How about Day[9]'s "Archon Toilet"?

On January 16 2011 10:36 PikaXchU wrote:
High Templar are not longer able to feedback Thors. So what's the use of getting a High Templar against Thor now? To attempt to storm the crap out of them?

Carriers should be the safest build, but if they scout them I don't know.... Maybe colossus too..