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antz0r
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia168 Posts
January 10 2011 04:13 GMT
#121
I hate being cheesed too. The best you can do is accept the loss graciously and do research to see how to respond appropriately the next time. However once someone was really rude, so I flew my CC out into the middle of nowhere and made myself a sandwich, told him that he'd need to get the gas to go stargates and then voidrays to find my mysterious floating CC.

He quit in disgust at my counter BM =)
Chasedown
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States87 Posts
January 24 2011 01:14 GMT
#122
can we expect a cannon rush build anything soon? or a 6pool build?
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
January 24 2011 01:27 GMT
#123
It'll be especially funny when you want to play legitimately and you'll still be up against the same opponents :D
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
PikaXchU
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore379 Posts
January 24 2011 01:38 GMT
#124
I used this to get into Diamond. Then that's it. End result, Diamond(lousy one) and no game sense/macro. Get a grip, all you are doing are winning ladder games, take a chill pill and play a good game.
Carrier has arrived.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13406 Posts
January 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#125
On January 09 2011 12:20 Bacon-X wrote:
Mission Complete! I cheesed my way to diamond! =D =D =D hahahahaha


This makes me sad since I have been trying to learn mechanics and build orders and tactics and strategies and I am almost to Diamond from september onwards.


Its my first RTS and then someone like you comes along and proxy double 10 gates his way to diamond. Sigh* I am consoled in the fact that when you try a macro game it won't end up too well probably.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
January 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#126
being in diamond doesnt mean a little, it means a lot as long as you dont cheese everygame. If you are (like me) 2700 diamond I feel thats pretty good (just saying cause ppl diamond bashed)
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
vicg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6 Posts
January 24 2011 01:52 GMT
#127
On January 24 2011 10:42 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 12:20 Bacon-X wrote:
Mission Complete! I cheesed my way to diamond! =D =D =D hahahahaha


This makes me sad since I have been trying to learn mechanics and build orders and tactics and strategies and I am almost to Diamond from september onwards.


Its my first RTS and then someone like you comes along and proxy double 10 gates his way to diamond. Sigh* I am consoled in the fact that when you try a macro game it won't end up too well probably.


Im like you but i started 2 weeks ago and am just breaking into silver. I think I am an expert at fighting cheeses because of how often thye have tried it on me. I think protoss definitely has the easiest cheeses. When I scout and I see no assimilators I usually expect some early zealot harrasment so I wall off, build an extra rax and churn out marines. Then when I am pumping rines out of 3 rax I like to go for upgrades and try to get out some medivacs and siege tanks.
ilion
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States65 Posts
January 24 2011 01:58 GMT
#128
I fear proxy gateways everytime I face a Protoss on a 2 player map (as a terran). Even if I scout the gates warping in, the protoss can just cancel the gates after I pull a bunch of probes and end up ahead economically. If I bunker up the mineral line, I will still take losses and then bam, stalkers hit.
vicg
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6 Posts
January 24 2011 02:02 GMT
#129
On January 24 2011 10:58 ilion wrote:
I fear proxy gateways everytime I face a Protoss on a 2 player map (as a terran). Even if I scout the gates warping in, the protoss can just cancel the gates after I pull a bunch of probes and end up ahead economically. If I bunker up the mineral line, I will still take losses and then bam, stalkers hit.



dont use bunkers then, its always best to use production structures as walls than building extra structures that slow down your economy. Also you should be able to keep your scv alive until the gateway is completed unless he pulls probes off of his mineral line which is in itself a small victory.
HotKimchi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States64 Posts
January 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#130
There is no way that this is not a troll thread.

I refuse to believe someone is this ignorant.

This has to be a troll thread.

Oh God please make it stop.

I'm terrible
TehForce
Profile Joined July 2010
1072 Posts
January 24 2011 02:05 GMT
#131
2000 is low diamond now. high diamond is 2700+ atm and top ~3000
NesTea <3
TibblesEvilCat
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom766 Posts
January 24 2011 02:21 GMT
#132
HOW DO I BEAT THIS WHEN I SCOUT IT?

as zerg
--
as terran
--
as protoss

please
Live Fast Die Young :D
OriginalBeast
Profile Joined September 2010
United States709 Posts
January 24 2011 02:29 GMT
#133
not really uncommon, but your going to get shit on once you actually feel like playing real strats.
More gg, more skill.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
January 24 2011 02:46 GMT
#134
as old as whitera dude, and yes people do get mad at this strategy a lot but it works, even though i like to call this Cheese O.o
Try playing more macro games!! :D
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
speakerbox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada453 Posts
January 24 2011 02:50 GMT
#135
lol doesnt really seem like big news to me bro
twin anchors houseboats
JRICE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
January 24 2011 05:12 GMT
#136
please keep in mind that two gating is only great until your opponent scouts you.
on maps like scraps station with a big ramp, two gating isn't all that bad, once you start playing diamond you're going to have to learn to do more than a 5 minute game.
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
January 24 2011 05:21 GMT
#137
On January 24 2011 14:12 JRICE wrote:
please keep in mind that two gating is only great until your opponent scouts you.
on maps like scraps station with a big ramp, two gating isn't all that bad, once you start playing diamond you're going to have to learn to do more than a 5 minute game.

not at all..
i've 2gated my way to diamond and maintained it for the longest time.
By 2g i mean (pylon-gate-assim-pylon-cyber-gate)
add in a robo / tech choice building or even expansion and you would be surprised how big of an army you can make off 2g.

scrap station is the worst to 2g on because of the rush distance...
and the 2g proper timing comes around the 6 - 6:30 mark

if your talking about proxy 2g all in, then yes.
proxy 1g is a sacrifice you make by saying "im going to put my second gate + cyber in my main, but use the 100m(pylon) and 150m(gate) as a sacrifice to deal as much economic damage as possible to my opponent."
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
January 24 2011 05:30 GMT
#138
On January 24 2011 11:21 TibblesEvilCat wrote:
HOW DO I BEAT THIS WHEN I SCOUT IT?

as zerg
--
as terran
--
as protoss

please

13 or 15 pool should be ok. cancel gas, make queen, spines, lings (in that order). Probably not a bad idea to make an extra queen before expansion as well. Keep drones from dying.

A man is what he thinks about all day long.
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 05:39:40
January 24 2011 05:36 GMT
#139
So now your in diamond and you have become proficient or mastered basically 0 of the skills that make a person good at starcraft. Whats the point?

BTW as toss when I scout this (or their empty base) I look for cannon rush in my base and below my cliffs while going 3 gate zealot rush to counter. Usually, once I've held it off, I get a sentry out and I rush to dt's after that and take my expo. BM guaranteed. I just go into standard pvp after that (colossus and lots of gateways) to ensure the win.
:)
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
January 24 2011 05:41 GMT
#140
On January 24 2011 11:21 TibblesEvilCat wrote:
HOW DO I BEAT THIS WHEN I SCOUT IT?

as zerg
--
as terran
--
as protoss

please

protoss - send 1 scout to target his probe, pull workers off gas (if any) chrono boost zeals out, and put down forge if early scout.
concept: if you scout nothing in opponents base it is either forge or proxy gate, so you should instinctively put down forge expecting a cannon rush.. once you get 2 cannons up around your mineral line, send your zeals to your opponents base to target workers.
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
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