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Been getting some world class BM for doing this but I thought I should share this with the teamliquid community. So, as funny as it is, I was bronze only 3 days ago. Just yesterday I got Platinum. Currently I'm being matched against diamonds and I am winning with this strategy so I'm expecting to be Diamond some time soon. So what's the strat?
- Send probes to mine, train another probe (of course) - Immediately send a probe to enemy's base - Keep training probes until you get to 10/10 - At 10/10 Build pylon INSIDE your opponents base (preferably in a corner where he can't see you) - 10/10 Save up, Build a gateway - 10/10 Keep saving, Build another gateway - As soon as gateway is finished chronoboost a zealot - Keep chronoboosting and pumping out your zealots - Micro well... I normally go for his workers first, to prevent him from mining minerals.
I've had much success with this build. (More wins then losses). It is very risky, I must mention, you won't always win. On the plus side, It's funny when u win =D (which is most of the time).
I want your guys' opinions on this build and comments. And don't just say "Cheese rush noob". LOL! Don't expect people not to cheese if you can't prevent it yourself.
And yes. Anybody, any noob in existence, can use this strat to cheese his way into diamond like I am right now. =P!!!!!!!
Here is the replay of the last game I just finished playing right now using this strategy: http://www.mediafire.com/?j41csp6u7atgm96
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If I see a scout that early I will definitely check on it and scout on 9 and realize you are cheesing before a gateway is put up. If it doesn't get scouted at all, then it's pretty good as far as I can tell, especially if you can wall in your pylon but even if you do manage to get it up if he scouts it while your gateways are building, he can throw up two of his own, kill you with probes and zealots and then you are pretty screwed. Main issue with cheesing to diamond is that, while it can work, few diamonds will get fooled by this and if you were bronze three days ago you could probably get out macro'd by a silver. Edit: Just watched the replay. Way to try to distract him with talk. You're an ass.
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I chuckled a bit reading this post.
I sir, apologize to let you know that most players have used a double 10gate before.
It's strong at all levels of play but after a certain point, it will become a coin flip with you losing more than winning.
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Boring as the universe.
But actually, this is indeed quite strong in some maps isnt it?
Qxc was qqing about this in his stream some days ago. He defended pretty well with a bunker in the right place and some good micro (lost 1 or 2 scvs) but he couldnt do anything as soon as a Stalker poped out of the gateway... And it wasnt so all-insh, with only 1 gateway and not cutting many probes, but still worked pretty well in Blistering (hate this map =x).
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U'd better search for Proxy (mb + gateways) and u would be glad to see, that a lot of topics with similar content already exist.
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Mission Complete! I cheesed my way to diamond! =D =D =D hahahahaha
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On January 09 2011 12:20 Bacon-X wrote: Mission Complete! I cheesed my way to diamond! =D =D =D hahahahaha
Those are probably 500 point diamond players. Decent players will scout around their base at a certain point. I scout the base in 1v1 maps with a 13 gate, and in 4 player maps I scout with a 16 pylon.
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I hate these kinds of builds as zerg. Zerglings are just so bad against a couple zealots, and even if I scout it, I can't make enough zerglings or spine crawlers to actually stop it.
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Nope. Just checked. 1000+ points diamond players 
Checked even more, also 2000+ points diamond players haha slaughtered em all
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On January 09 2011 12:20 Bacon-X wrote: Mission Complete! I cheesed my way to diamond! =D =D =D hahahahaha and this is where you realize how little being in diamond means
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On January 09 2011 12:25 Bacon-X wrote:Nope. Just checked. 1000+ points diamond players  Checked even more, also 2000+ points diamond players haha slaughtered em all
Replays please.
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It's better to block the pylon with two gates. But other than that, you can win easily if your opponent is retarded.
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On January 09 2011 12:43 mizU wrote: It's better to block the pylon with two gates. But other than that, you can win easily if your opponent is retarded.
This. I don't get why 2000+ diamonds don't scout. 2000 is probably low-diamond now.
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Just like oGsInCa v sanZenith recently, if you go about a proxy and dont get scouted you most often will win - its not breaking news :p
I would have though most diamond players, especially on the ladder, have been stung enough by bunker and cannon/gateway proxies that they would never let a scouting scv go un-harassed or fail toc heck their base and natural areas...
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the question is, why would you want to cheese yourself into diamond? sooner or later you want to actually play and learn the game and then you are fucked cause you are just not on the same level with those guys in a straight up game
anyway in any pvp i scout heavily for stuff like this, if you scout it early its easy to defend. bo is nothing new and wide spread
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Is this against Protoss only? Or can be used effectively against Terran and/or Zerg? I would assume the Terrans have the best chance to defend since they can build a bunker.
Also in your replay the Protoss did not scout with his 9th pylon probe. He would have noticed the cheese a lot sooner giving him the chance to defend better.
Regards, Petrina.
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i win with this build and im almost 3k on diamond! its especially powerful on 4player maps where you build in the center
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On January 09 2011 05:35 ForTheDr3am wrote: Older than the universe. +1
Yea, this is old..
User was warned for this post
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ancient build, still effective, although doing it in someone's base against good players just doesn't work, except maybe jb cause the base is so ridiculously big and there is another ramp to hide it down
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