• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:32
CEST 01:32
KST 08:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1268 users

2 Gate Proxy Zealot Rush - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Allred
Profile Joined November 2010
United States352 Posts
January 09 2011 04:10 GMT
#21
if they see it before the gateway is finished a few well placed cannons will tear this to shreads- not only are you way behind Eco wise but your gateways will fall as well- i have seen a player go 10 gate forge which can be really nasty trying to hold off and is a little stronger actually trying to deal with a cannon rush and a zealot rush at the same time
An expert is a man who tells you a simple thing in a confused way in such a fashion as to make you think the confusion is your own fault. ~William Castle
Bacon-X
Profile Joined December 2010
United States266 Posts
January 09 2011 04:10 GMT
#22
Replays please.

I have one in the first post. But I'll upload another one right now...
Here.. Another replay but it's vs. Terran this time:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0g25k3z3ig7p2lz

This. I don't get why 2000+ diamonds don't scout. 2000 is probably low-diamond now.

Nope... 2000 is high - mid diamond :/
Brood War player since 2003 ---> StarCraft II
-KarmA
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States353 Posts
January 09 2011 04:12 GMT
#23
You must be playing against terrible diamonds because most people cant get away with that past bronze.

tell them to lern2scout
Bacon-X
Profile Joined December 2010
United States266 Posts
January 09 2011 04:13 GMT
#24
Last 50 or so games have been won Mr. MOAR pylons
Brood War player since 2003 ---> StarCraft II
uberdeluxe
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada306 Posts
January 09 2011 04:15 GMT
#25
this is the most revolutionary new build i have ever seen... you build things at their base... to attack FASTER??? Wow srsly who could think of this. That building probes trick u have is rly neat 2, sometimes if the guy gets like 7 or 8 he can rly outproduce u.

sincerely hope this was a troll post.
No mules, no collosi, no PFs, just LOVE!
CCalms
Profile Joined November 2010
United States341 Posts
January 09 2011 04:19 GMT
#26
On January 09 2011 13:10 Bacon-X wrote: Nope... 2000 is high - mid diamond :/


Oh lord stop priding yourself for proxy gating. 2000 diamond is LOW. It WAS high in june of 2010, but standards inflate, and mid diamond players are now found in the 2400 point range, you don't get high until you reach 2800.
Bacon-X
Profile Joined December 2010
United States266 Posts
January 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#27
Oh my bad dude, I thought rank 27 was mid >_> didn't know what u mean. Evidence that I am a NOOB in DIAMOND. lmao!!! that's why i love myself right now
Brood War player since 2003 ---> StarCraft II
ticki
Profile Joined December 2010
56 Posts
January 09 2011 04:25 GMT
#28
On January 09 2011 13:10 Bacon-X wrote:
Show nested quote +
Replays please.

I have one in the first post. But I'll upload another one right now...
Here.. Another replay but it's vs. Terran this time:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0g25k3z3ig7p2lz

Show nested quote +
This. I don't get why 2000+ diamonds don't scout. 2000 is probably low-diamond now.

Nope... 2000 is high - mid diamond :/


#1) 2k is basically the score you get from using your bonus pool. In no way is it "high-mid" diamond as you suggest.

#2) You really need to be so excited about being in diamond. All this does is encourage lower level players to cheese and point out the easiness of getting into diamond.

Jacobs Ladder
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1705 Posts
January 09 2011 04:26 GMT
#29
On January 09 2011 13:10 Bacon-X wrote:

Show nested quote +
This. I don't get why 2000+ diamonds don't scout. 2000 is probably low-diamond now.

Nope... 2000 is high - mid diamond :/

2000 is dirt low. There have been over 2000 bonus points, so 2000 means you've lost more points than you've earned (or you have a pool), 2.5k is averagish for TL players. 3k is high.

Anyway. There are variations of this too. On SOW I do the MC 7 pylon 8 gate, which isn't all in (you'll either cost them mining time or do damage, so you'll come out ahead). Then there was Inca's Metal build where you scout close air fast, if they are there you proxy a forge and a gateway and laugh at the rage.
Summerfield
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 04:28:55
January 09 2011 04:27 GMT
#30
Even the greatest SC2 players will fall to cheese, this is nothing new. You can be a 4000+ D-player and fall for this. The thing is that if you play the same person once again you will be toast as this is the only effective build you seem to do. Naturally it is not wrong to cheese, people who will tell u differently are simply not efficient enough to understand that cheese is a part of SC and always has been. However, what have you learned from cheesing into diamond? Nothing really and this tactic is a double edge sword. As u get nearer and nearer the top, you will meet more and more players you have played before and they will remember you I am quite sure

Ergo, what you do is simply cheese without becoming actually good. Sure you might take down even the greatest player, but you will only do so once and anyone can do that. Another question is also, will this kind of play really be food for thought as u age with this game?
"And this queen is like F-u darkshrine you are dying like the bitch you are!" - PsYstarcraft
Bacon-X
Profile Joined December 2010
United States266 Posts
January 09 2011 04:31 GMT
#31
Well I only had the goal of getting into diamond with cheesing to see if it was possible, and yes, it was very possible. But don't get me wrong, I'm gonna do standard builds and get better with those as well... Cheese rushing is just fast and easy wins, convenient for moving up the ladder xD
Brood War player since 2003 ---> StarCraft II
gangstarr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
January 09 2011 04:33 GMT
#32
Quite honestly, it's pretty pathetic.
Sonic114
Profile Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
January 09 2011 04:36 GMT
#33
I don't understand why people just try to cheese all th way to diamond...
Summerfield
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden88 Posts
January 09 2011 04:40 GMT
#34
On January 09 2011 13:31 Bacon-X wrote:
Well I only had the goal of getting into diamond with cheesing to see if it was possible, and yes, it was very possible. But don't get me wrong, I'm gonna do standard builds and get better with those as well... Cheese rushing is just fast and easy wins, convenient for moving up the ladder xD


Naturally you will do what you think is best, but a word to the wise. Who will stand a better chance to survive in nature. One who has survived its trails and gotten to the top of the food chain or the one who has been thrown into the middle of the jungle? Same thing goes for SC, you may be a Olympic swimmer, but if you are thrown in the water with the sharks, they are going to win. Anyway, I wish you luck in your gaming future.
"And this queen is like F-u darkshrine you are dying like the bitch you are!" - PsYstarcraft
Solomoth
Profile Joined February 2010
United States55 Posts
January 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#35
This build is so old they even have a "how to defend against this build" in the single player challenge missions... lol can't believe ppl lose to this...
Friend, "Do it for the Zorg!" Me, "It's Zerg not Zorg!" My friend trying to psyche me out in a game of beer pong.
RoseTempest
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
January 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#36
How is this an accomplishment? There's people who 6-pool every game into diamond, and it works, get off your high horse.
Bacon-X
Profile Joined December 2010
United States266 Posts
January 09 2011 04:47 GMT
#37
Dude... It's FUNNY that's why... and plus i'm just having a good time... Don't try to put me down xD!!!
Brood War player since 2003 ---> StarCraft II
Royalcommand
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)189 Posts
January 09 2011 04:51 GMT
#38
youll soon realize that when you play standard later youll get roflstomped by actually decent diamonds and probably get demoted to platinum because you have no basic understanding of the game besides proxy 2 gate
jstar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada568 Posts
January 09 2011 04:54 GMT
#39
Even though this is really old, kudos if you thought that out yourself (without outside knowledge).
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
January 09 2011 04:58 GMT
#40
congratulations on understanding the difficult concept of cheese
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
S22 - Open Qualifier #6
ZZZero.O103
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft352
SpeCial 121
Ketroc 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 663
ZZZero.O 103
-ZergGirl 63
Jaeyun 31
NaDa 8
Dota 2
capcasts306
canceldota157
League of Legends
JimRising 471
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv5497
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor220
Other Games
summit1g16118
Trikslyr55
ViBE34
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1207
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH144
• Hupsaiya 103
• HeavenSC 14
• davetesta12
• Adnapsc2 7
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3772
Other Games
• Scarra496
• WagamamaTV296
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
10h 28m
Wardi Open
10h 28m
Replay Cast
1d
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL
5 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.