426 MKP fanboys, no other explanation.

Literally every single pro player comment on this gave the 100% win to Parting, yet the fanboyism is even stronger than that.

dAPhREAk

Nauru12397 Posts

April 10 2012 21:23 GMT

#42

parting had that about 95% won. but thats not 100%. so re-game was necessary. sucked for parting, but them's the breaks.

edit: i dislike MKP and find it amusing that everyone is saying only MKP fanboys think it was fair.

TheAmazombie

United States3714 Posts

April 10 2012 21:32 GMT

#43

While I agree that Parting had the advantage at that moment, I think it was overblown. When there is doubt, regame is the correct decision.

slicknav

1409 Posts

April 10 2012 21:32 GMT

#44

On April 11 2012 06:23 Zealot Orgy wrote:
426 MKP fanboys, no other explanation.

Literally every single pro player comment on this gave the 100% win to Parting, yet the fanboyism is even stronger than that.

because pro player are always right and make objective calls, especially when not viewing the replay...

NuclearJudas

6546 Posts

April 10 2012 21:36 GMT

#45

I'm kind of surprised they weren't prepared for something like this. Naturally, you don't expect any of the games to drop, but how hard would it be to have three or five different players act as an expert panel, a la TSL when Boxer dropped vs Nightend? Hopefully something like this can be the standard from now on.

IMO, Parting would have taken the game (hence be given the match, giving STQ a 3-1 lead), but I'm kind of fine with the regame decision. It's so hard to be put in that situation. No matter what you decide, you fuck someone.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

April 10 2012 22:02 GMT

#46

A good solution is to explicitly state the rules for disconnects. Make a list of criteria of what constitutes an unwinnable situation. Then just follow the rules. At least if both parties know and agree with the rules before hand then they must accept whatever decision the refs makes as long as it is consistent with the rules. If people are not satisfied with the rules then they can debate and improve them. What I don't like is that the ref(s) came to a decision based on specific reasons then never explained their reasons to the audience. Because they never explained anything in a timely manner, I can't help but assume that part of the reason to have a regame was based on PR. Maybe they will release something in the next few days, but it will probably be candy coated and contain some PR BS. Calls from refs should be similar to traditional sports where refs will make calls based on concrete rules and in some cases explain the calls they made.

00Visor

4337 Posts

April 10 2012 22:08 GMT

#47

On April 11 2012 06:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
parting had that about 95% won. but thats not 100%. so re-game was necessary. sucked for parting, but them's the breaks.

edit: i dislike MKP and find it amusing that everyone is saying only MKP fanboys think it was fair.

Its never 100% sure. You have to draw some line. I agree with the 95% and the win should probably be awarded if it was >90-95% sure.
So its close. I can understand the standpoint of the referees. You can always see the disconnect as some lucky 'act of nature beyond control'. A regame is never wrong under this view, awarding a win is difficult.

F1rstAssau1t

1341 Posts

April 10 2012 22:14 GMT

#48

I think its actually Blizzards fault for not putting LAN.

docoa

United States14 Posts

April 10 2012 22:29 GMT

#49

didn't watch the game. If mkp dc'ed, dont parting and observers have a replay of this game?

anyway, seems like 100% parting game for me

nakedsurfer

Canada500 Posts

April 10 2012 22:35 GMT

#50

On April 11 2012 02:34 HorsemasterK wrote:
Parting wins that 7/10 times, but you can't say FOR SURE that we was going to win. Regame was correct, but sad situtation.

I completely agree with this. I also believe that because MKP wasn't taken out afterwards that it makes this call feel even more controversial.

docoa

United States14 Posts

April 10 2012 22:36 GMT

#51

Also, if they were in opposite situation, mkp wouldve been easily given a win.

Kevan

Sweden2303 Posts

April 10 2012 22:41 GMT

#52

Parting wins that 99.9 % of the time. That should be enough to give him the game. He could have fallen off his chair and broken both arms though. And MKP is the more popular player.

Aradune

Germany1 Post

April 10 2012 22:47 GMT

#53

i'd love to see players taking care of situations like that by themselves. imagine mkp saying "you were in the lead, your game".
okay, there is a lot of money on the line and regames might be the best practical solution but a gentlemen's agreement would be such a nice sign for manner and honor.

besides all the money, the moments in which opponents show sportsmanship and honor are the ones which will last and impress the most.

Shasta37

United States70 Posts

April 10 2012 22:52 GMT

#54

Even if MarineKing had held the push, by then it was late game and we've seen a thousand times how that goes in TvP. Still, I'm indifferent. I can understand both arguments.

CursivE

Australia317 Posts

April 10 2012 23:18 GMT

#55

On April 11 2012 07:47 Aradune wrote:
i'd love to see players taking care of situations like that by themselves. imagine mkp saying "you were in the lead, your game".
okay, there is a lot of money on the line and regames might be the best practical solution but a gentlemen's agreement would be such a nice sign for manner and honor.

besides all the money, the moments in which opponents show sportsmanship and honor are the ones which will last and impress the most.

The problem here is that this was a team game. So it's a big call for him to make.

Let the referees do their job. That's what they are there for.

It's like the issue of 'walking' in Cricket if you're given not out. People admire your sportsmanship if you do walk but they don't begrudge you holding your ground if you're given not out.

Aunvilgod

2653 Posts

April 10 2012 23:27 GMT

#56

On April 11 2012 02:34 HorsemasterK wrote:
Parting wins that 7/10 times, but you can't say FOR SURE that we was going to win. Regame was correct, but sad situtation.

I would even say 8/10. Still a regame would be the right descision.

Dyme

Germany523 Posts

April 10 2012 23:43 GMT

#57

They should have given Parting the win.

MKP's run after that and Primes victory seemed so meaningless.

B1nary

Canada1267 Posts

April 10 2012 23:46 GMT

#58

At the time the game was paused, I think Parting would almost certainly win. With so many stalkers out, the mutas probably wouldn't be able to do much. But Nestea was calling for a pause for quite a while before that, when the game wasn't so overwhelmingly in Parting's favour. The admins were at fault for not noticing Nestea's signals. It was an unfortunate situation for both players, but it wouldn't have been fair to take the possibility of a win from Nestea for something he had no control over. I think they made the right call.

Melvin0000

United States32 Posts

April 11 2012 00:07 GMT

#59

I do think that parting should have been given the win but if he was really better than MKP he would've been able to take the second game as well. The real problem here is the lack of a reconnect feature, which would fix a lot of problems like this.

Ruscour

5233 Posts

April 11 2012 00:21 GMT

#60

Even if Parting wins 99% of the time in this situation, you have to give a regame for the 1%. It's a sucky situation, and people are acting like they awarded the win to MKP after the disconnect. They didn't. It was a regame, and MKP won fair and square, it's not like he had any advantage in the regame.

Things suck sometimes. This was one of those times. The decision was fair, but still sucky.