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Starcraft II: Censorship, Communism, China

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Starcraft II: Censorship, Communism, China

Text byEmlary
July 23rd, 2009 15:17 GMT
Before you start reading this blog, be aware that Blogspot, Facebook, Picasa, Twitter and YouTube are all blocked in China. Other irregularly blocked sites include Flickr, Google, Wikipedia and yes, once Battle.Net was inaccessible. Generally speaking, any Web2.0 or user-generated content website, any place where people talk what they want, can be blocked by the Great Fire Wall.

It's ChinaJoy opening day today, the equivalent of E3 in China. Big companies, new titles and booth babies, even Fomos loves it. Instead of displaying console games, ChinaJoy is mainly for online games because we have nothing but online games. Most old developers of PC games died one by one since late 1990s due to piracy. Few are left, switching into online games. As for console games, oh, let me tell you something: I have an Xbox360 that is only available in the grey market and a shit load of pirated game discs, each costs less than $1.

Anyone who wants to make money from the gaming business in China, it must be a damn online game.

Blizzard has had three partners in China. The first one is Aomei Soft, who published StarCraft, Diablo II and Warcraft III for Blizzard. Aomei Soft was once the gaming unit of Charoen Pokphand Group (the biggest conglomerate in Thailand), later acquired by a Chinese telecommunication enterprise. Aomei sued Holdfast (Haofang, I think many of you got to know this Chinese version of Garena thanks to Possible reason Blizzard dropped LAN support thread) for providing illegal LAN based platform of Blizzard games in 2006 and asked for million of dollars compensation. Shamefully, they lost the case because the court said they did not have hard evidence.

Why is Holdfast that arrogant? The biggest shareholder of Holdfast is also the biggest game company in China – Shanda. Shanda monetized Holdfast after acquiring it in 2004, adding paid features and subscriptions. With less than $2 subscription per month, you can join any channel even it’s full, you can kick out some noob you don't like. Other paid features include 50% exp. point bonus if you win or no exp. point cut if you lose. (Think about if iCCup provides something similar….) It's not compulsory but lots of players are willing to pay since it's "small money“. (It is also the reason why micro-transaction based Free-to-Play MMOs are so popular in China.) Chinese Starcraft/Warcraft gamers pay no penny to Blizzard but pay some money to Holdfast, which obviously makes Blizzard crazy.

Platforms like Holdfast can be a possible reason Blizzard dropped LAN for Starcraft II. Business is business. The new Battlet.Net will absolutely have paid feature/subscription, I'm not saying the global one, I'm talking about the upcoming isolated Chinese Battle.Net. See, even Battle.Net can be communistic. With LAN or without LAN, Starcraft II won't be a million-copy-seller game in China. It's hardcore, it's for people of my age (played Starcraft many years ago, now have a job, can afford a legal copy). "Why not just stop those Holdfast guys stealing our money?" Simple logic of Blizzard.

The second partner was The9, the former local operator of WoW in mainland China. With an idiot boss who generated money from WoW then bought a soccer team for fun (Chinese soccer team FAIL). He's even more stupid to have a good friend at EA to get EA's investment and FIFA Online in 2007. Blizzard kicked it out early this year and turned to NetEase.

The third partner NetEase already signed Starcraft II and the new Battle.Net last year. Blizzard chose it because 1) NetEase is willing to pay more royalty 2) NetEase's boss is a member of the national congress. Government relation is important for business everywhere, but especially important in China. If the government don't like you, they can find the most absurd reason you can imagine to kick you out. Last year when Blizzard tried to register Starcraft: Ghost at the Chinese patent bureau. It was rejected because "Starcraft indicates astrology and Ghost is definitely evil." Yeah, we are communists we are 100% materialistic don't try to infect us with your capitalistic evil things.

There is no rating system for any entertainment industry in China. Movies? Video games? No. There are only two types: green/harmony and dirty/disharmony. You talked about Tian'anmen Square riot, you are disharmony; you want democracy, you are disharmony; you watch porn, you are disharmony; you play violent video games, you are disharmony. So don't be surprised that skeletons were put on flesh in Chinese version of WoW. Ridiculous things happen every day here. Some are not too bad, just hilarious; some make people enraged.

What's worse is two national bureaus have been fighting for the administration right of video games, General Administration of Publication and Press and Ministry of Culture. Both claimed they are authorized to censor video games before the publication/open beta testing. (By censorship, here it means 2 or 3 grandpas from the bureau who had probably never played any video game in their entire lives, access the game server with GM accounts, to see if there are naked women or bloody bodies.) Once Ministry of Culture agreed to support GDC China (by Think Group), GAPP immediately turned to support another industry panel called China GDC. Games and game companies are obviously the victims of their fight. Sadly, Blizzard and NetEase probably didn't offer enough bribe to the governors from both bureaus.

Blizzard sure have lots of talents who can make some best video games. But they don't have talents to deal with communists. Don't forget – North Koreans, they are our brothers. The future of WoW, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3 and whatever new titles in China, is doomed. I promise you this won't be the last ridiculous story you hear from China/Blizzard/Starcraft/WoW. There is gonna be many, many to come.


PS, some personal comment:

From the business perspective, China market is not essential to Blizzard. What? Five million Chinese World of Warcraft players, who are almost half of total subscribers, are not important? Do some simple math, WoW contributed 39% of Activision Blizzard total revenues according its Q1 fiscal results. If we take a look at the geographic breakdown, Asia Pacific contributed only 7% of total revenues (Asia revenues = WoW revenues). Let's say Korean and Taiwanese (two major independent servers in Asia other than Chinese) count 2%, China is the rest 5%. That comes to a conclusion – half of WoW subscribers only contributed 12.8% of WoW revenues. Michael Morhaime can just say "f*** you" to China government, and leave.
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Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 15:51:39
July 23 2009 15:27 GMT
#2
Thank you for the insight about WoW specifically. A friend and I were talking about this so I'm glad you made a post about it.

Hopefully Starcraft 2 isnt delayed too long because of China... especially since Blizzard is an AMERICAN company.

Edit: Re-reading it, stuff like that always makes me wonder how China hasn't erupted yet. I know they have a vice-grip like control of their people, but man some of those laws are just ridiculous. I dont know all that much about Chinese culture to be honest, but hopefully something changes one of these days that keeps that amount of censorship out of peoples lives.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
July 23 2009 15:29 GMT
#3
Communism lives.

China is doing very well overall, economy and other stuff, but from what i read it sure sucks to be a gamer or internet dweller there.
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
July 23 2009 15:31 GMT
#4
Really interesting read. 5/5.
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 23 2009 15:35 GMT
#5
nice story i like it
moshi moshi~
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 15:40:40
July 23 2009 15:37 GMT
#6
China's like the big brother of the Philippines, just stricter and better economically.

But, can I ask? if the government is corrupt.. why is it that you're country is still economically awesome? It's very contradicting.

EDIT: so it's true that starcraft is too bloody that it will affect the minds of adolescents.

LMAO!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 23 2009 15:38 GMT
#7
Good read.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
July 23 2009 15:42 GMT
#8
Great read especially since I came straight from the Starcraft 2 banned from Chinajoy thread.... There's a lot of negativity towards China on this thread but I don't think are that bad. It's just the whole censorship issue.

There is no rating system for any entertainment industry in China. Movies? Video games? No. There are only two types: green/harmony and dirty/disharmony. You talked about Tian'anmen Square riot, you are disharmony; you want democracy, you are disharmony; you watch porn, you are disharmony; you play violent video games, you are disharmony. So don't be surprised that skeletons were put on flesh in Chinese version of WoW. Ridiculous things happen every day here. Some are not too bad, just hilarious; some make people enraged.


I didn't know that though. And I thought that singapore was bad...
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
July 23 2009 15:44 GMT
#9
Reminds me of those five hundred in one cartridge nintendo games they had over there. Of course about a hundred of them are Super Mario Bros. I seriously have no idea how China keeps their competitive gaming scene.
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 23 2009 15:48 GMT
#10
wow, that sucks for blizzard
I am not good with quotes
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 23 2009 15:53 GMT
#11
On July 24 2009 00:48 s.a.y wrote:
wow, that sucks for blizzard


More sucks for the people. Blizzard has plenty of money to just about anything they want, they just want to force everyone to pay an equal price even if their country isnt really a place that allows for that.

Thats what I'm getting from a lot of the articles I'm ready anyway. Some countries are going to hack the game no matter how hard anyone tries to stop it. And if they cant hack it they'll just make a straight up ripoff, there was a post about that recently in these forums as well.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
July 23 2009 15:53 GMT
#12
Really nice read, shed some light on the matter.

I so hate comunism.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 16:12:50
July 23 2009 15:56 GMT
#13
On July 24 2009 00:17 Emlary wrote:
Last year when Blizzard tried to register Starcraft: Ghost at the Chinese patent bureau. It was rejected because "Starcraft indicates astrology and Ghost is definitely evil." Yeah, we are communists we are 100% materialistic don't try to infect us with your capitalistic evil things.

There is no rating system for any entertainment industry in China. Movies? Video games? No. There are only two types: green/harmony and dirty/disharmony. You talked about Tian'anmen Square riot, you are disharmony; you want democracy, you are disharmony; you watch porn, you are disharmony; you play violent video games, you are disharmony. So don't be surprised that skeletons were put on flesh in Chinese version of WoW.

This kind of stuff sets me on tilt. For all its economic progress, China still has a long way to go before it's as free as any Western democracy.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
July 23 2009 15:56 GMT
#14
man when this comes out im going to be turned into a crazzed killer because of sc2
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 15:58:55
July 23 2009 15:58 GMT
#15
they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR STARCRAFT
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
July 23 2009 15:58 GMT
#16
interesting
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
July 23 2009 16:02 GMT
#17
so this means I should buy Shanda stock right?
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
July 23 2009 16:07 GMT
#18
On July 24 2009 01:02 azndsh wrote:
so this means I should buy Shanda stock right?


Not really, its stock price jumped from $30 to $60 last three months, mainly driven by the Aion-hype. With 20+ P/E, it's probably the most expensive gaming stock at present.
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 23 2009 16:07 GMT
#19
Well, call me optimistic but I think things will get progressively better in China. Today's China have come a long way since Mao's regime were millions of teachers and other intellectuals were killed. While the countryside in China is very poor, the middle class in the cities is rapidly growing, and when people's economical situation improves they are going to start asking for more freedom.

The communist party will have to start making compromises, or risking setting China back 50 years. No one wants Mao back, not even the communist party.

fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
July 23 2009 16:10 GMT
#20
Wow this is such an interesting read, greetings
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