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Starcraft II: Censorship, Communism, China - Page 2

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 23 2009 16:11 GMT
#21
Holy shit, didn't know all of this about it. Thank you for opening up to us more about the situation.
Life?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 16:18:51
July 23 2009 16:16 GMT
#22
I don't see how communism fits into any of this.

Whenever news like this about China pops up, you get a million people saying "god I hate communism," when it's obvious they have no real grasp on what communism is and how it fits in to this. (protip, it really doesn't)

China has strayed so far from communism without going into a system like the western world that it really is its own unique system. It's not democratic, anyone can tell you that, but it is also nothing like communism as outlined by Marx, nor like the state of the USSR.

So communism isn't causing the censorship of SCII in China, it's the really weird and mostly retarded system that China has of dealing with foreign stuff that is.
TranslatorBaa!
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
July 23 2009 16:18 GMT
#23
Great blog. Never thought censorship was this heavy. Very insightful. 5/5
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Twilight Templar
Profile Joined April 2009
99 Posts
July 23 2009 16:19 GMT
#24
great read, I knew that they were strict over there but god... i didn't think it was that bad
dum dadi do dum dum dee do dee da
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
July 23 2009 16:20 GMT
#25
how are other foreign companies (in particular Korean MMO makers) dealing with the Chinese government and handling things? do they have the same problems, or are the regulators friendlier to them to begin with?
DskXplorr
Profile Joined March 2009
United States44 Posts
July 23 2009 16:22 GMT
#26
This is a great read, and it really has to suck being a online gamer in China. Hopefully things get better there.
When one person dies, another is born, but when a marine dies, we thank the zerg.
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
July 23 2009 16:26 GMT
#27
On July 24 2009 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So communism isn't causing the censorship of SCII in China, it's the really weird and mostly retarded system that China has of dealing with foreign stuff that is.


Just don't bother finding another "C" word lol
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 16:44:44
July 23 2009 16:41 GMT
#28
I can't help but look at China positively overall.

What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture.

China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9109 Posts
July 23 2009 16:43 GMT
#29
Thanks for the insight.
StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
July 23 2009 16:52 GMT
#30
Very interesting read...and wow very educational, thank you!
IIf your good at Starcraft, Your good at life. - Artosis
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 23 2009 16:53 GMT
#31
On July 24 2009 01:41 Magic84 wrote:
I can't help but look at China positively overall.

What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture.

China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth.


What do you think will happen when well educated young people are being repressed? They will just leave the country for a better life elsewhere where they can have more freedom.

China need to change if they want to be leading the world, they won't be able to do that as a dictatorship.
nexusil
Profile Joined July 2009
United States52 Posts
July 23 2009 16:56 GMT
#32
7% revenue is nothing to sneeze at..
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
July 23 2009 16:56 GMT
#33
On July 24 2009 01:41 Magic84 wrote:
I can't help but look at China positively overall.

What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture.

China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth.


This doesn't make sense. An ambitious person will be ambitious regardless of whether video games exist or not. If a person succumbs to distractions, then that it their own fault, and not the responsibility of the government to stop. The existence of distractions rarely stop a strong-willed person from being successful.
Pape
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Serbia419 Posts
July 23 2009 16:57 GMT
#34
I don't see why you are allowed to associate hate with communism because China has a bad and corrupt way of dealing with video games. In fact most of Chinese citizens might even agree with this system if they see video games as a bad thing more than good. Surely just enough as blocking porn can be no different than blocking the use of cocaine in my opinion, and they might place gaming in the same category.

America has a terrible healthcare system, terrible social security system, terrible many other things, and somewhat of sensorship on people under 17 in buying many games (which I'm sure all the u-17s are crying about) but it would be outragous to blame it on the democracy?
good luck have fun!
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 17:05:27
July 23 2009 17:03 GMT
#35
On July 24 2009 01:53 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2009 01:41 Magic84 wrote:
I can't help but look at China positively overall.

What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture.

China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth.


What do you think will happen when well educated young people are being repressed? They will just leave the country for a better life elsewhere where they can have more freedom.

China need to change if they want to be leading the world, they won't be able to do that as a dictatorship.

I don't think so. I don't think full grown adults need 4chan, uncensored google and other stuff THIS much. I'd like to see the people's happiness statistic and where does China stands though, but it's hard to manage >1.3 billion people (goddamn!) overall.
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
July 23 2009 17:07 GMT
#36
On July 24 2009 02:03 Magic84 wrote:I don't think so. I don't think full grown adults need 4chan, uncensored google and other stuff THIS much. I'd like to see the people's happiness statistic and where does China stands though, but it's hard to manage >1.3 billion people (goddamn!) overall.


Well of course we don't NEED those things, but it still doesn't make it right to ban them just because some people are irresponsible with them.
iPF[Div]
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain572 Posts
July 23 2009 17:18 GMT
#37
On July 24 2009 00:58 Zurles wrote:
they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR STARCRAFT


unless we live in china.
Since ma jae yoon and jin young soo stabbed me in the fucking back, i've got no one to rep here.
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
July 23 2009 17:20 GMT
#38
What a genuinely insightful read. Thanks Emlary~
SpiritAshura
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 17:30:03
July 23 2009 17:27 GMT
#39
On July 24 2009 01:57 Pape wrote:
I don't see why you are allowed to associate hate with communism because China has a bad and corrupt way of dealing with video games. In fact most of Chinese citizens might even agree with this system if they see video games as a bad thing more than good. Surely just enough as blocking porn can be no different than blocking the use of cocaine in my opinion, and they might place gaming in the same category.

America has a terrible healthcare system, terrible social security system, terrible many other things, and somewhat of sensorship on people under 17 in buying many games (which I'm sure all the u-17s are crying about) but it would be outragous to blame it on the democracy?

Eh it's not that hard to get around, have a friend who's old enough for parents who are lenient buy it for you if you're under 17. (This is assuming the store even checks ages, I never ONCE had a store age check me and I was buying games I technically shouldn't have been, diablo 2 anyone? I bought that in 8th grade hell I was what, 15 I think?)

Also, buy it online if possible, when I was 16 I had a debit card for my bank account that I could use to buy anything online if I wanted with them basically having no way to know if I was actually of age or not.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-23 17:29:46
July 23 2009 17:29 GMT
#40
On July 24 2009 00:37 Licmyobelisk wrote:
China's like the big brother of the Philippines, just stricter and better economically.

But, can I ask? if the government is corrupt.. why is it that you're country is still economically awesome? It's very contradicting.

LMAO!


It's certainly not economically awesome. In fact its far more likely that economic reasons will be the cause of a blow-up in China rather than social woes (read: gov't censorship). GDP per capita (granted only a limited measure of financial well-being) is lower than any first world country's and a socioeconomic divide far greater than America's. Growth is easy in a command economy. Look at Stalinist Russia
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