EPTStarcraft II: Censorship, Communism, China - Page 2
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ShoCkeyy
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
Whenever news like this about China pops up, you get a million people saying "god I hate communism," when it's obvious they have no real grasp on what communism is and how it fits in to this. (protip, it really doesn't) China has strayed so far from communism without going into a system like the western world that it really is its own unique system. It's not democratic, anyone can tell you that, but it is also nothing like communism as outlined by Marx, nor like the state of the USSR. So communism isn't causing the censorship of SCII in China, it's the really weird and mostly retarded system that China has of dealing with foreign stuff that is. | ||
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
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Twilight Templar
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
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DskXplorr
United States44 Posts
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Emlary
China3334 Posts
On July 24 2009 01:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: So communism isn't causing the censorship of SCII in China, it's the really weird and mostly retarded system that China has of dealing with foreign stuff that is. Just don't bother finding another "C" word lol | ||
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture. China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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StalkerSC
Canada378 Posts
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On July 24 2009 01:41 Magic84 wrote: I can't help but look at China positively overall. What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture. China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth. What do you think will happen when well educated young people are being repressed? They will just leave the country for a better life elsewhere where they can have more freedom. China need to change if they want to be leading the world, they won't be able to do that as a dictatorship. | ||
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nexusil
United States52 Posts
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On July 24 2009 01:41 Magic84 wrote: I can't help but look at China positively overall. What they do hurts only free time of youth and teenagers. Their freedoms regarding gaming, internet browsing, getting entertainments from western cultures are weak. But young time better spent other way imo (even if you live in s.korea), better spent being socially active. I sure don't see their politics direction as a tragedy. The society may benefit overall producing it's own entertainment and staying inside it's own culture. China is becoming a monster with economy, science, sports. Very fast. Limited entertainment freedoms among teens is worthy enough price if it actually adds to the growth. This doesn't make sense. An ambitious person will be ambitious regardless of whether video games exist or not. If a person succumbs to distractions, then that it their own fault, and not the responsibility of the government to stop. The existence of distractions rarely stop a strong-willed person from being successful. | ||
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Pape
Serbia419 Posts
America has a terrible healthcare system, terrible social security system, terrible many other things, and somewhat of sensorship on people under 17 in buying many games (which I'm sure all the u-17s are crying about) but it would be outragous to blame it on the democracy? | ||
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
On July 24 2009 01:53 Eury wrote: What do you think will happen when well educated young people are being repressed? They will just leave the country for a better life elsewhere where they can have more freedom. China need to change if they want to be leading the world, they won't be able to do that as a dictatorship. I don't think so. I don't think full grown adults need 4chan, uncensored google and other stuff THIS much. I'd like to see the people's happiness statistic and where does China stands though, but it's hard to manage >1.3 billion people (goddamn!) overall. | ||
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On July 24 2009 02:03 Magic84 wrote:I don't think so. I don't think full grown adults need 4chan, uncensored google and other stuff THIS much. I'd like to see the people's happiness statistic and where does China stands though, but it's hard to manage >1.3 billion people (goddamn!) overall. Well of course we don't NEED those things, but it still doesn't make it right to ban them just because some people are irresponsible with them. | ||
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iPF[Div]
Spain572 Posts
On July 24 2009 00:58 Zurles wrote: they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR STARCRAFT unless we live in china. | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
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SpiritAshura
United States1271 Posts
On July 24 2009 01:57 Pape wrote: I don't see why you are allowed to associate hate with communism because China has a bad and corrupt way of dealing with video games. In fact most of Chinese citizens might even agree with this system if they see video games as a bad thing more than good. Surely just enough as blocking porn can be no different than blocking the use of cocaine in my opinion, and they might place gaming in the same category. America has a terrible healthcare system, terrible social security system, terrible many other things, and somewhat of sensorship on people under 17 in buying many games (which I'm sure all the u-17s are crying about) but it would be outragous to blame it on the democracy? Eh it's not that hard to get around, have a friend who's old enough for parents who are lenient buy it for you if you're under 17. (This is assuming the store even checks ages, I never ONCE had a store age check me and I was buying games I technically shouldn't have been, diablo 2 anyone? I bought that in 8th grade hell I was what, 15 I think?) Also, buy it online if possible, when I was 16 I had a debit card for my bank account that I could use to buy anything online if I wanted with them basically having no way to know if I was actually of age or not. | ||
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On July 24 2009 00:37 Licmyobelisk wrote: China's like the big brother of the Philippines, just stricter and better economically. But, can I ask? if the government is corrupt.. why is it that you're country is still economically awesome? It's very contradicting. LMAO! It's certainly not economically awesome. In fact its far more likely that economic reasons will be the cause of a blow-up in China rather than social woes (read: gov't censorship). GDP per capita (granted only a limited measure of financial well-being) is lower than any first world country's and a socioeconomic divide far greater than America's. Growth is easy in a command economy. Look at Stalinist Russia | ||
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