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[TL Subs] After Talk - Betting Scandal - Page 7

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RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
May 24 2010 00:43 GMT
#121
what happened?
How do u doto?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
May 24 2010 00:45 GMT
#122
Thanks guys
Moderator<:3-/-<
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
May 24 2010 00:48 GMT
#123
Thank you. TL delivers
Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
May 24 2010 00:49 GMT
#124
On May 24 2010 09:37 TossNub wrote:
on the subtitles, there were a few places it was a bit off.. just saying.

LOL XD
BoxeR is AWESOME!!!!//Proud 2nd Member of the BW>SC2 club.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
May 24 2010 00:59 GMT
#125
Wow, Didn't know this was being subbed >__< awesome!!!! now u guys can take a break, u earned it
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 01:02:40
May 24 2010 01:02 GMT
#126
I 100% agree with Kim Carrier has arrived, but really the coaches should already have made their decision and kicked out anyone involved - 0 tolerance. If good players are going to throw games, then let a B teamer play. If a B teamer wants to throw games, recruit a rookie that wants to play and win.

Out with the old, in with the new.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 01:05:14
May 24 2010 01:03 GMT
#127
Carrier is the man

He was saying that if the audience in the Korean Air OSL Finals is poor, thats the death of Esports... but, what can we say when that hangar had 12.000 people enjoying the finals???

People still believe and will support


This crisis will pass by, and there will be an importante lesson to be remembered for a long time, not to repeat these mistakes
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
May 24 2010 01:03 GMT
#128
Thank you, subbing team. Honest and emotional dialogues.
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
May 24 2010 01:12 GMT
#129
omg...
wow.
kang min was hella pissed
boxer's explanation of how he tailored his games so that his fan could enjoy it..
this disaster is just bad.
i hope they can recover from this scandal.

however, i feel like they really overlook the fact that these players are playing like 80+ hours a week for no pay but just living expenses and food if you are just regular players, and a small stipend if you are a-teamer. i can feel the need to make some more money since you are wasting your life away for nothing unless you are a huge name progamer.

its just disgusting... i dont even know.
yes the video explained the conditions are better than it used to be, but still, they aren't that great.
it is basically child labor for free. but then again, i cant stand that big names actually partook in the game rigging.
i mean come the fuck on man...
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
May 24 2010 01:16 GMT
#130
On May 24 2010 10:12 Garaman wrote:
i mean come the fuck on man...


This last sentence is awesome :D
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 01:23:33
May 24 2010 01:17 GMT
#131
Kim Carrier mentions (Z)sAviOr at 4:19, you can hear him say "ae yoon" at the end of the beep

But otherwise, i dont believe that they (the commentators) didnt know squat about the whole "scandal" issue. If youve been involved in the esports scene for 10 years, its hard to belive you would have missed something like that.
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Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
May 24 2010 01:17 GMT
#132
Thanks for all the great work. I really hope they can recover from this.

To all honest gamers... Fighting~!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
May 24 2010 01:29 GMT
#133
I honestly think the commentators are waaay too butthurt about this, their personal jobs aren't in question, the whole e-sports scene isn't going to disappear overnight because of 7-8 progamers that fixed a few matches.

"Get rid of gambling sites", "the original sin was always there". Oh yeah good idea dumbass, society needs its vices, there will always be people who overstep boundaries and if it was so easy to get rid of it forever, it would have been done already.
"I'd like to give them a life sentence". Yeah, another great idea smartass, way to paint yourself as a vengeful moron from a 3rd world country with no sense of proportion or justice. Maybe you want to splash acid in their faces too?

Don't get me wrong, they should be punished, but leave that to the courts.

From their commentary you'd think South Korea was financially defrauded of billions of dollars the same way Wall Street defrauded the US, but it was just some kids throwing a bunch of games.

Soccer matches have arguments about coach bribing every year. Does the soccer scene die?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
May 24 2010 01:31 GMT
#134
On May 24 2010 10:17 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Kim Carrier mentions (Z)sAviOr at 4:19, you can hear him say "ae yoon" at the end of the beep

But otherwise, i dont believe that they (the commentators) didnt know squat about the whole "scandal" issue. If youve been involved in the esports scene for 10 years, its hard to belive you would have missed something like that.

I don't know about the commentators specifically, but it seems like the whole reaction has been to paint a "few bad apples" when really, there are a lot more people involved. I don't mean that many more people were betting, but that people were complicit by knowing about it and doing nothing. Maybe they were hoping it'd get swept under the rug like with Major League Baseball.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
May 24 2010 01:41 GMT
#135
Thanks so much subbing team, you guys are amazing
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34496 Posts
May 24 2010 01:49 GMT
#136
That thing at 27:15 made me jump.

Thanks for the translation.
Moderator
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
May 24 2010 02:01 GMT
#137
On May 24 2010 10:29 Sadistx wrote:
I honestly think the commentators are waaay too butthurt about this, their personal jobs aren't in question, the whole e-sports scene isn't going to disappear overnight because of 7-8 progamers that fixed a few matches.

"Get rid of gambling sites", "the original sin was always there". Oh yeah good idea dumbass, society needs its vices, there will always be people who overstep boundaries and if it was so easy to get rid of it forever, it would have been done already.
"I'd like to give them a life sentence". Yeah, another great idea smartass, way to paint yourself as a vengeful moron from a 3rd world country with no sense of proportion or justice. Maybe you want to splash acid in their faces too?

Don't get me wrong, they should be punished, but leave that to the courts.

From their commentary you'd think South Korea was financially defrauded of billions of dollars the same way Wall Street defrauded the US, but it was just some kids throwing a bunch of games.

Soccer matches have arguments about coach bribing every year. Does the soccer scene die?

They're just telling us how they feel. You have no right of coming here and calling them dumbasses, they worked really hard for it and put a lot of trust in those players, it's their passion, of course they're gonna be mad. Of course they know "life sentence" isn't reasonable, they're just voicing their feelings. And it's not about their jobs being in question or anything silly like that, they actually explained how "fragile" the scene can be, it's not even fair to compare it to soccer. Sponsors barely make any money and they can just destroy the whole thing with a snap of their fingers. I'm pretty sure they're feeling good now though, after seeing the absurd amount of people in the OSL finals. People just won't abandon the scene.

Anyway, here's hoping for more big sponsors in the future and more and more (real) great games. I want Defconn performing in the next OSL.
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
May 24 2010 02:03 GMT
#138
i have even more respect for boxer now. he does it for the fans, not for himself only.

thank you, sub team! this was very informative!
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
starsDC
Profile Joined April 2010
11 Posts
May 24 2010 02:06 GMT
#139
Wow Thanks for this Interesting
Soul Gaming Retired
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-24 03:52:01
May 24 2010 02:33 GMT
#140
The conversations were very detailed and thoughtful. Thanks for the subs!

edit: It's really sad that the commentators had to apologize for something they didn't even do.
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