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On March 08 2024 11:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. What do you want to say ? I'm missing the point. Either he isn't right or he is. I don't know what Oats will flip.
Well then lets flip oats and find out, this absolutely reeks of big plays going on for scum and I can't figure out which is legit scum and which is dumb town letting their egos think they know better than an un ccd blue role with a red check. honestly some of you just love the smell of your own farts
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On March 08 2024 11:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. Who is the everyone? And why are they mafia?
You probaly for starters even though you're somehow the onlyperson to make general sense this last 12 hours. Everyone is koshi/vivax/marv/copcak/anyone not willing to lynch you. this shit is literally what I was talking about this morning and I come back and its exactly what happened.
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On March 08 2024 11:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:00 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. What do you want to say ? I'm missing the point. Either he isn't right or he is. I don't know what Oats will flip. Well then lets flip oats and find out, this absolutely reeks of big plays going on for scum and I can't figure out which is legit scum and which is dumb town letting their egos think they know better than an un ccd blue role with a red check. honestly some of you just love the smell of your own farts That doesn't answer it. What does it mean for marv if he says that? What do you see that others can't?
I've had my metas suspicions of marv for a while now but I'm not comfortable putting him higher than say VE yet but it certainly doesn't help my read of him. but what I can see that apparently others can is um idk.... a fucking red check/
I literally talked about this exact thing this morning.
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On March 08 2024 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. Who is the everyone? And why are they mafia? You probaly for starters even though you're somehow the onlyperson to make general sense this last 12 hours. Everyone is koshi/vivax/marv/copcak/anyone not willing to lynch you. this shit is literally what I was talking about this morning and I come back and its exactly what happened. As you said, they can’t all be mafia so..
I know thats why Im fucking annoyed with vivax and koshi because they were town reads and now theyre pulling this shit
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On March 08 2024 11:11 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 11:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:00 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. What do you want to say ? I'm missing the point. Either he isn't right or he is. I don't know what Oats will flip. Well then lets flip oats and find out, this absolutely reeks of big plays going on for scum and I can't figure out which is legit scum and which is dumb town letting their egos think they know better than an un ccd blue role with a red check. honestly some of you just love the smell of your own farts That doesn't answer it. What does it mean for marv if he says that? What do you see that others can't? I've had my metas suspicions of marv for a while now but I'm not comfortable putting him higher than say VE yet but it certainly doesn't help my read of him. but what I can see that apparently others can is um idk.... a fucking red check/ I literally talked about this exact thing this morning. Again: Why is it worth pointing out for you that marv expects scum autopilot on oats but you find many not doing that? Either that means marv is scum for you or the others aren't, and you aren't walking anyone through your reasoning.
Its not that marv "expects" scum to autopilot oats, its that he opens up the avenue for people to go somewhere else and be townread for it bc "obviosuly scum are autopilot on oats so people questioning must be town"
People questiong are dumb and all think they know better than what we established last night after my bad math was like a 90% chance of him being sucm.
I already had my suspicions of marv so this is only fueling those.
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On March 08 2024 11:13 Vivax wrote:
I'll just assume MZ tripped and faceplanted on the last page with that enthusiasm about something only mafia can see.
what, you mean the red check that the whole town can see and some people have decided to ignore a 90% chance because their egos make them think theyre better?
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The egos people have in this game to sit here and try to talk around probability is absurd. Someone doing it is scum.
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On March 08 2024 11:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:13 Vivax wrote:
I'll just assume MZ tripped and faceplanted on the last page with that enthusiasm about something only mafia can see. what, you mean the red check that the whole town can see and some people have decided to ignore a 90% chance because their egos make them think theyre better? You just called them mafia for doing it so why is big egos the driver unless they're town?
That the thing, they cant all be scum. Koshi is making this game very hard for me to read rn. Im at least still convinced you're town so I'm hoping at some point you see what I'm trying to say.
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All it takes is one scum to get bold and plant a "good idea" and then boom we're off to the races.
I literally talked about this this morning. I'm gonna go quote my posts
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On March 07 2024 23:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 23:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Oatsmaster (10): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous
Not Voting (6): Vivax, marvellosity, Palmar, Koshi, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes
With 10 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Given the non-voter list rn, I'm not convinced scum is just gonna roll with the red check and move on. I still think there's a chance we see someone try and make #bigplays today which is why I'm so against having this continued discussion on the slam check. Especially since there are people who have called it a good lynch and then not voted for it.
Wow, called this shit out 11 hours ago.
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On March 08 2024 11:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:21 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 11:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:13 Vivax wrote:
I'll just assume MZ tripped and faceplanted on the last page with that enthusiasm about something only mafia can see. what, you mean the red check that the whole town can see and some people have decided to ignore a 90% chance because their egos make them think theyre better? You just called them mafia for doing it so why is big egos the driver unless they're town? That the thing, they cant all be scum. Koshi is making this game very hard for me to read rn. Im at least still convinced you're town so I'm hoping at some point you see what I'm trying to say. And copcake?
She started it all tbh but I've flip flopped on her as scum/town severeal times so its easier for me to see her trying something as scum. koshi was straight out of left field.
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look vivax Im ngl, oats has made posts that if he made them 48 hours ago Id def townread him too, but I don't think Im better at reading the game than the probability of events that had to occur for him to somehow be checked wrong. Like I do get why you don't wanna lynch him but its still the right move.
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On March 08 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I've flip flopped on her as scum/town severeal times so its easier for me to see her trying something as scum. lol
Am I wrong in either my characterization of my play or her play? I really thought she might have been on to somehting with JSL the other night and I didn't want to get too tunneled. But its hard to ignore whats happened today.
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On March 08 2024 11:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:26 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 11:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I've flip flopped on her as scum/town severeal times so its easier for me to see her trying something as scum. lol Am I wrong in either my characterization of my play or her play? I really thought she might have been on to somehting with JSL the other night and I didn't want to get too tunneled. But its hard to ignore whats happened today. I mean you just left her out when you mentioned me and Koshi and afterwards you think she's scum just because you have been unsure on her alignment before. Nothing to see here.
On March 08 2024 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. Who is the everyone? And why are they mafia? You probaly for starters even though you're somehow the onlyperson to make general sense this last 12 hours. Everyone is koshi/vivax/marv/copcak/anyone not willing to lynch you. this shit is literally what I was talking about this morning and I come back and its exactly what happened.
Here?
On March 08 2024 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 11:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. Who is the everyone? And why are they mafia? You probaly for starters even though you're somehow the onlyperson to make general sense this last 12 hours. Everyone is koshi/vivax/marv/copcak/anyone not willing to lynch you. this shit is literally what I was talking about this morning and I come back and its exactly what happened. As you said, they can’t all be mafia so.. I know thats why Im fucking annoyed with vivax and koshi because they were town reads and now theyre pulling this shit
Or here? Bc here I specifically state im annoyed with you guys bc you guys were/are my townreads. idk about ksohi anymore.
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On March 08 2024 11:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 11:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Oatsmaster (10): Alakaslam, Jealous, JacobStrangelove, Rels, Meapak_Ziphh, iamperfection, DarthPunk, die_meatbaby, CopCake, Justanothertownie
die_meatbaby (1): Oatsmaster
VisceraEyes (0): iamperfection
CopCake (0): Jealous
Not Voting (6): Vivax, marvellosity, Palmar, Koshi, ToTheStars, VisceraEyes
With 10 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
Given the non-voter list rn, I'm not convinced scum is just gonna roll with the red check and move on. I still think there's a chance we see someone try and make #bigplays today which is why I'm so against having this continued discussion on the slam check. Especially since there are people who have called it a good lynch and then not voted for it. Wow, called this shit out 11 hours ago. You ever gonna tell us who the someone is? It ain’t koshi he ain’t posting shit right now
Who has done it since this morning
On March 08 2024 00:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
I’m fully expecting mafia to skate by today on the “it’s oats let’s pick this up day 3” and waste today Want to vote tts?
This is the first one, idk how I missed this
On March 08 2024 06:27 Koshi wrote:
I still think we shouldnt lynch Oats.
Rels/MZ/VE maybe Palmar are all better lynches.
They didnt care during night. Dont care now.
MZ just tried to be relevant today dancing with me but it isnt real scumhunting.
I also havent done anything but you know... most think I am town because I am pretty townie overall.
Rels
MZ
VE
Jacob
Palmar
This one was the one I first noticed, maybe bc he said my name lmao
On March 08 2024 07:22 Vivax wrote:
I honestly have a really good argument for why Oats isn‘t mafia actually. But it requires you to believe he‘d be good enough to think about it.
Vivax doing it
On March 08 2024 07:25 Vivax wrote:
I‘m actually not going to vote him.
Bc of the lack of a bodyguard claim? I don’t understand it but I think youre town still so w/e
On March 08 2024 07:27 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 07:23 Vivax wrote:
If Oats was mafia he could claim bodyguard.
That‘d make it easier to survive the check and pulls more info for scum if they can‘t stop the lynch. ????? Claiming bodyguard is meaningless.
Even perfection disagrees and he was the one who stared this mess
On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity
Ok I don’t hate the read but I ahte the vote
Perfection and DP agree
On March 08 2024 09:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 08:57 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity I’ve alluded to most of it. Rayn discord was quite quiet, the main highlight was seeing a pic from artanis’ wedding and being made to guess who is who. And talking him down off Copcake which I may or may not regret. Sandro discord was very active. We talked about palmar, MZ, Rels, JSL (I got excited about sandro’s read but the claim seems to have scotched that). Sandro thought Koshi was very town as he aligned with him on a bunch of stuff. We talked about MZ, specifically the posts at the end of his first page of filter and the first page of 2nd filter. Sandro had said he wrote MZ off as town for a while after that. We sort of concluded it would be a ballsy scumplay but that MZ could make it. We also talked about MZ stance on town deciding the mayor lynch, sandro talked about how it was quite an old school view what MZ said about it and we left it there. We both thought VE was scummy. I asked sandro to talk palmar off of rayn if sandro was alive. Obviously that sort of resolved itself. And I am aware that makes it sound like I think palmar is town, but it’s more complicated than that. The act of sandro talking to palmar would have been revealing. Jealous town, CC town. So if we ignore Oats you‘d want to do VE or MZ today ? Do you think it‘s a good idea to follow the redcheck when Oats is still looking townie? I would have voted VE. The oats thing is mathematical. If you read him as over 90% town, great. Over 90 is a very high threshold though. I’m actually a very hedgy townie unless I’m super sure. I just don’t know that it’s the right play to not lynch oats even though my personal read is town.
Hold marv to this one if the vote is for VE tomorrow and he doesn’t get onboard. Whats funny about this post is that marv also decides to do the thing he said scum would do and just go along with the oats lynch.
On March 08 2024 10:18 Vivax wrote:
Jat, Koshi, Ve, DP, Rels could be a thing
You know vivax when I first caught up it seemed like koshi was driving this train but now that im quoting everything it seems like you are one of the main drivers
On March 08 2024 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
Oats i think he might be town to be quite honest. Just a feeling the way he has acted but ive always liked oats so could be a bias of mine.
Iamp back at it again
Then I caught up to the thread after getting back home. You’re right vivax, koshi hasn’t been a factor since I left the thread this morning. I think I let my frustrations from this morning carry over to now. Hes still done what I said he did, just not recently. Unfortunately I don’t think I cans scum read you for this, your just dumb. And While marv called oats town he dd say to stick the course on the lynch. Iamp is the one I missed tbh. Also This does not clear marv in anyway, if anything I find it funny hes now doing what he said scum would do and just go along with the lynch.
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On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity
How serious are you about this vote?
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On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity How serious are you about this vote? I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait My vote is on jat.
What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes?
I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are
i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process
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On March 08 2024 12:26 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 12:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 12:06 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 12:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity How serious are you about this vote? I think 4 mafia were on Trfel now. Marv can wait My vote is on jat. What has pushed JAT ahead of Marv in your eyes? I finally did a decent read of JAT and I think I know why youve got some of the reads the way they are i dont think you're 100% right but I might be understanding someo f your thought process Could you elaborate with examples please? Helps me TR people when people say more than "this is what I believe now because of stuff." Listing quotes and links and stuff. I know you did this before, and this take can use some of that IMO.
Ok easy, first I have to read it under the assumptions vivax has which is that oats is town.
On March 07 2024 20:52 justanothertownie wrote:
I still think Oats is quite towny btw. - also in his reaction to the check. Still 100 % the lynch today but it would not surprise me if he flipped Miller.
This kinda stuff now reads like TMI if you assume oats is town. Thinks hes town but still wants to lynch him oh and by the way he might be the miller.
On March 08 2024 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 05:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are bending over backwards, behind and every which way to avoid calling me town jat even though you clearly think so, ridiculous I literally called you towny. That was the last thing I said about your alignment.
Again, someone who's not going to be surprised if oats flips town
when I first read through these didn't stand out very much, but looking again and trying to think what vivax might be thinkinng I can see where these would stand out.
Of course I could be totally off base which is why I asked vivax to explain, I just wanna understand where hes coming from.
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On March 08 2024 12:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 07 2024 23:18 marvellosity wrote:On March 07 2024 22:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Everyone who has called into question Slam's check in anyway is instantly less town to me. That starts with copcake but also includes you now Koshi. It's got the vibe of a scum team that left slam alive thinking he wasn't gonna find any of them and are now mad that he's better than they thought.
If Oats flips VT we can revisit this but right now these posts only serve as opening the door for Oats to get out of the lynch.
Also funny your push was onto me Koshi when I'm the same lynch Oats tried to push as the alternative to him. Do you really think mafia think they can wiggle out of a red check? I think the opposite to you. I think mafia absolutely rolls with the red check. BING BING BING I FOUND IT. Crazy how you set up the premise of scum just rolling with a red check and I come back to the thread to find eveyrone looking for reasons not to lynch a red check. How convenient. Really disagree with this. Unless you're playing the "chaotic town" card, scum absolutely know there is no way Oats will survive the game if he's scum (or if he's town for that matter). We're not even in LYLO, buying one more day doesn't accomplish anything if it comes at the cost of their credibility
I think that is naive to think that the town will have the discipline to come back to a red check if they pass it over once. A lot can change in a single day cycle.
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On March 08 2024 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:
I am like 90% sure oats is town and I still think it is the right play to lynch oats.
How do you move forward from this redcheck next phase, and the next phase?
What do we do at lylo with a redcheck oats?
You all realise he is never getting night killed if he is town with a redcheck on him.
I will be having words with grack after the game about millers in this setup but nothing more to be done.
On March 08 2024 07:22 Vivax wrote:
I honestly have a really good argument for why Oats isn‘t mafia actually. But it requires you to believe he‘d be good enough to think about it.
On March 08 2024 07:23 Vivax wrote:
If Oats was mafia he could claim bodyguard.
That‘d make it easier to survive the check and pulls more info for scum if they can‘t stop the lynch.
On March 08 2024 07:25 Vivax wrote:
I‘m actually not going to vote him.
On March 08 2024 09:01 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 08:57 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2024 08:55 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2024 07:43 Vivax wrote:
Marv is mafia, anyway.
He should be here dumping everything they discussed before his masons got killed, and taking control and he isn‘t doing either.
I‘d lynch him before Oats.
##Vote marvellosity I’ve alluded to most of it. Rayn discord was quite quiet, the main highlight was seeing a pic from artanis’ wedding and being made to guess who is who. And talking him down off Copcake which I may or may not regret. Sandro discord was very active. We talked about palmar, MZ, Rels, JSL (I got excited about sandro’s read but the claim seems to have scotched that). Sandro thought Koshi was very town as he aligned with him on a bunch of stuff. We talked about MZ, specifically the posts at the end of his first page of filter and the first page of 2nd filter. Sandro had said he wrote MZ off as town for a while after that. We sort of concluded it would be a ballsy scumplay but that MZ could make it. We also talked about MZ stance on town deciding the mayor lynch, sandro talked about how it was quite an old school view what MZ said about it and we left it there. We both thought VE was scummy. I asked sandro to talk palmar off of rayn if sandro was alive. Obviously that sort of resolved itself. And I am aware that makes it sound like I think palmar is town, but it’s more complicated than that. The act of sandro talking to palmar would have been revealing. Jealous town, CC town. So if we ignore Oats you‘d want to do VE or MZ today ? Do you think it‘s a good idea to follow the redcheck when Oats is still looking townie? I would have voted VE. The oats thing is mathematical. If you read him as over 90% town, great. Over 90 is a very high threshold though. I’m actually a very hedgy townie unless I’m super sure. I just don’t know that it’s the right play to not lynch oats even though my personal read is town.
On March 07 2024 20:52 justanothertownie wrote:
I still think Oats is quite towny btw. - also in his reaction to the check. Still 100 % the lynch today but it would not surprise me if he flipped Miller.
On March 08 2024 10:36 iamperfection wrote:
Oats i think he might be town to be quite honest. Just a feeling the way he has acted but ive always liked oats so could be a bias of mine.
On March 08 2024 06:27 Koshi wrote:
I still think we shouldnt lynch Oats.
Rels/MZ/VE maybe Palmar are all better lynches.
They didnt care during night. Dont care now.
MZ just tried to be relevant today dancing with me but it isnt real scumhunting.
I also havent done anything but you know... most think I am town because I am pretty townie overall.
Rels
MZ
VE
Jacob
Palmar
On March 07 2024 13:20 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2024 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote:
why did mafia not shoot slam, or even roleblock him? My current hypothesis is they have a framer and felt good about him checking me God damn it, he is good, he has me wifoming myself to death. I am almost considering unvote
On March 08 2024 02:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2024 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:42 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:26 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:14 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2024 00:07 Jealous wrote:On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 07 2024 23:58 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2024 11:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now
Jacob more null slam town Updates from Oats' filter since the above reads list:2847: Voted JAT anyway despite townreading him, to give Trfel "time to play." Because of where the votes were, I am not gonna change alignments here, but it should be noted that Oats had JAT as town and Trfel as NA. 3414: "Jsl saying that koshi’s thing was a scumslip but DMB’s thing wasn’t a scumslip is super sus" 3861: "I’m just laughing at the jealous post completely accepting that he’s acting in an anti town manner because of “probability”" <- I don't think this is enough for me to assume they SR me but who knows. 3990: "For claim reactions, I think that the way jealous reacted felt very preplanned and lining up the mislynches, what do you think?" <- This is closer to an accusation IMO.* 4067: "Overall, it just doesn’t seem like mz has natural progressions and is not trying to find mafia" 4013: "If this means that you think slam is cop then yes I agree " So we have: Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Rayn
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Alakaslam
NA:
DarthPunk
sandroba
Trfel
marvellosity
Hapahauli
ToTheStars
Rels
Scum:
Meapak_Ziphh
Jealous [?]*
Jacob
VE
DMB
CopCakeAlso: "I do agree that either both [ rayn and marv] are mafia or rayn is town." @Oatsmaster: Is this updated reads list of yours accurate? What would you change and why? Jacob is town, cop is town, tothestars is mafia. You are null, jat is mafia Updated list: Town:
Koshi
Iamperfection
Palmar
Vivax
JAT
Jacob
CopCake
Alakaslam
NA:
DarthPunk
marvellosity
ToTheStars
Rels
Jealous
Scum:
JAT
Meapak_Ziphh
Jacob
ToTheStars
VE
DMB
CopCakeCan you elaborate on the above changes? Old positions crossed out, new positions should be accurate. On March 08 2024 00:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
How did you get jat is town from my filter From this, quoted above in response to the original list: Oh sorry I misread but I think vivax is town now and jat is town now Oh that was night wifom, he’s definitely scum Alright. Also found your TTS reasoning above, so we can skip that one. 1. I'm guessing Jacob town because of the role claim, correct? 2. Why is JAT scum? 3. And why is CopCake town? What do you think about my MZ post and dmb? It felt like a reactionary post because of their math/slamming the CopCake x Alakaslam line of discussion, like you got mad because they did that and messed up the % chances so you latched onto them for it. Like you, I wasn't thrilled about their Day 1 play, but it's also Day 1 stuff so I'm more willing to write it off when there were people I was more interested in looking into. I also agreed with you that I wanted them to elaborate on their new reads more, particularly the TRs. Without getting more elaboration I find it hard to evaluate how natural the progression is, but I do see your point and will keep an eye out. I also think that they weren't really active/trying to find mafia but they also at least gave a reason for it, as opposed to some other people. I agree that there is something worth digging into, I just don't think I feel as strongly about it as you seem to at this specific moment. RE: DMB, I didn't like their posting almost at any point to be honest, they were one of my frontrunners for a lynch, but I think I will have to back off of this until we see how you flip because of how quickly you voted DMB after Alakaslam's reveal. Things might be clearer then. I’m not really sure what you were trying to say with the first part unless you are saying that I saw that post and went wait wtf then filtered MZ, in which case that’s absolutely correct. That’s fine regarding dmb. You’ve spent a whole bunch of time looking at other peoples reads, can we get some of your reads? 1) raynpelikoneet - Was scum reading, flipped town. 2) Oatsmaster - Was town reading, have to assume scum. 3) DarthPunk - Still town reading. 4) Vivax - Still have to assume town read. 5) sandroba - Was town reading, flipped town. 6) Trfel - Was neutral, sheeped Koshi's vote reasons, flipped town. 7) marvellosity - Still green. 8) Jealous - I'm VT. 9) Meapak_Ziphh - Was leaning town, still leaning town but not as confident as other reads. 10) Palmar - Was neutral but unimpressed, now thinking town is somewhat likely. 11) justanothertownie - Was neutral, had ups and downs, now back to neutral-ish. 12) die_meatbaby - Was neutral, went down, now I am just withholding judgment until further info. 13) CopCake - Still lynchable to me. 14) JacobStrangelove - Basically have to believe roleclaim at this point in time at least. 15) Hapahauli - Guessed town despite policy lynch status, flipped town. 16) Iamperfection - Was town, still town. 17) Koshi - Was town, still town, but am less confident compared to before. 18) ToTheStars - Was leaning scum, that hasn't changed and they've been absent, good lynch IMO. 19) VisceraEyes - Was neutral, leaning scum due to PoE and relative reads to others basically. 20) Rels - Was neutral, still fairly neutral mostly due to lack of impressions on activity, will filter next. 21) Alakaslam - Was leaning lynch/scum/wtf, now have to believe claim at this moment.
On March 07 2024 17:05 Palmar wrote:
Like 90% mafia is basically the best shot we can get. I’m sorry Oats but not much to do about it. If you’re town just get to work and leave a strong legacy.
On March 07 2024 13:19 die_meatbaby wrote:
#vote Oatsmaster
the only right thing to do now.
10/15 players who are not me or oats don't seem to excited for this lycch. The only person who seems to post a scum read with her vote is copcake
On March 07 2024 14:06 CopCake wrote:
So in conclusion
oats is either mafia or miller. I would go mafia for Rayn’s death.
So
##vote: Oats
But she also spent a lot of time grilling slam about his check so I was under the impression she wasn't into it as well.
Honestly, the amount of people who are saying shit like "100% the right call but I don't like it" is making me wonder if there are scum who know there was a framer or something involved and are prepping for a flip where they stand back and shrug their shoulders and say "well it was the right call"
I can't believe I'm even considering this seriously. Everyone knows what they're supposed to say but eveyrone wants to caveat it with how much they hate doing it.
this game has been so frustrating today. Did scum hit the 1 outer on the river and actually drill a frame or did slam get absolutely coolered and run into a miller.
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