EPTWinter Warfare Mafia
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I cant do more or I might say something smart and not get lynched. ##Vote marv | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 03:31 Trfel wrote: Also, when do we policy lynch marvellosity for smiles being suspicious?  I already started. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 04:32 Holyflare wrote: voting koshi is a good first step though, we should all be doing it I agree 100% | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I told Tfrel and DP to start a town circle and instead they are going to waste all their carrying power to argue between each other. What a waste. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am a bit drunk maybe, i dont think trfel is mafia, DP might be but maybe not because he is all fucking in on this, and i dont understand any of this shit... I only know for like 90% that he is wrong because Trfel is not mafia. Maybe 10% but no. DP is also not mafia. Just let them work together and the game is solved before you know it. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: are you both mafia? I love you rayn | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
The mafias are not reading you guys mafia. So don't be dumb and argue as TvT all game ok? They will like that and post like mafia!marv is doing to keep it going. Be friends. You are both green. I believe in you. On December 11 2023 01:49 marvellosity wrote: sandro for obvious reasons Didn’t like DP’s attack on Trfel nor Trfel’s subsequent defence of those posts, but maybe DP is being DP (I think we established this year that we don’t think the same) and Trfel has been tenacious. So maybe Vivax, primarily because I don’t find his posts very interesting On December 11 2023 03:37 Holyflare wrote: Convuluted af reasons really. I thought Sandroba was quite likely to be mafia and Palmar made this post: + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote: Sandroba correctly identified Slam’s best post (smiley thing) and also noticed how excellent it was but somehow convinced himself to not make a good read on it. Brazilposting in crisis? Implicating that Palmar was ready to bus sandro because the reasoning here is extremely tenuous imo. I don't believe that palmar thinks the post is good but simultaneously uses it to discredit sandro. Maybe he would but I don't think so. It feels more like thread influence has made palmar take the read and use it as his own stance for slam and then try and double down on the sandro read. Reading into this and then seeing rayn post some drivel like: + Show Spoiler + On December 10 2023 18:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar pros town here. kinda made me think that maybe I was doing palmar a disservice and he could come up with something like that and rayn was just TMIing palmar as town because I don't think anything palmar said should be really conclusive for palmar's alignment in the slightest, especially not to this degree that rayn was talking about he's since given more elaborated reasoning for it like: + Show Spoiler + On December 11 2023 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you also remember he doesn't play during the weekends and does basically the minimum amount to survive as mafia? On December 11 2023 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk, i would think Palmar would hide under "no play during weekends" esp since most of the players should know that, rather than post basically anything other than "it's weekend bye!"  The stuff he said is also okay. It's not that i even think Vivax is mafia, probably opposite tbh, but his read on Palmar is based on wrong premises imo, if Palmar and sandroba would be both mafia, that would definitely not be something Palmar does in my opinion.Oh i also think DP and sandroba are not both mafia, now that i remember. Which I guess is somewhat accetable but it's still a really silly reason to base the read on that. Think I'm more leaning on going on vivax atm though because he's playing way too normal and trfel is right that his post to sandroba is self-fulfilling. Not really sure, not that into the game atm. Marv looks ok, trfel looks good imo, DP is (?) but leaning on the side of ok. Slam is kinda just chilling so I don't really know what to read into that but I think he's had enough defenders in the thread over really mediocre points that game state might be pointing to him being town too. Vivax, Koshi, chez, sandro, meatbaby and palmar is a good list of LHF to get through for the time being. Maybe throw in a rayn in there but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. Palmar and rayn probably the weakest in being in this list so will see what they get up to while I work throw the others. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 07:40 marvellosity wrote: I don’t see the point in talking about this yet. Of course he plays anti-town. In 24h if he plays the same still it’s more interesting. As he will be playing against his wincon if town which is just mega shitty and deserves a policy lynch I am worthy. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 07:44 marvellosity wrote: Reword please Slam? What are you saying or asking me? You are pushing mafia agenda. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I am only translating | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 05:23 sandroba wrote: marv and holyflare not very impressive atm. Palmar is normal I guess On December 11 2023 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: are you both mafia? You should also be lovers. ezgame ezlife. This is why I need to get lynched. The game is not fair to the mafias anymore. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 07:53 Chezinu wrote: Yes! So worthy the Lord Almighty came down from Heaven to endure your punishment so that you have the opportunity to know him for eternity. But really are you really worthy? We but dirty rags... yet he loved us. So let us continue loving others. And forgive others as he forgives us. For He is truly worthy! I trust in the Lord as he will rescue me. I am just a humble servant spreading his love. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
It's insane I am thinking this so quickly. But I feel good about it. Anyway. Cya in around 20ish hours or so. I think I have 1 list post in me left. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 08:31 Alakaslam wrote: Trfel possible scum. Tfrel is not mafia. 1) He identified Vivax correctly. 2) He tries to pull in people in the thread, make them part of the conversation. In a very healthy way and is doing that consistently. 3) He had an argument with DP which he was undergoing at first, but after DP gave him breathing space, Tfrel continued the fight. This is very unlikely to come from mafia. If he was mafia he would more likely take a breather and try to position himself good in the thread as this would have been his tactic from the start. But instead he kinda nonsensical attacks DP again. But not in a way to shit in the thread, it reads as if he actually was surprised DP gave him breathing room and found it suspicious. Tfrel as mafia makes no sense. He took over from Sandrobe to be the town water carrier. People should help him instead of saying he is mafia or suspicious. He is doing the Lords work. You want people like your town read marv to carry this town instead. lael lael lael Or this HF that can't string up a decent argument? I think we should just all trust teh mafias and wait on Koshi to do something before we actually do something. That is a good tactic. I'll be waiting with them. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Town are the only ones playing. Remember that. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 09:05 Holyflare wrote: Don't agree with Koshi points but I don't disagree that he could have those thoughts legitimately. Not sure why he feels the need to interject in favour of trfel when only dp is really gunning for this trfel stance though. Also bit sad that despite it being many years he still just seems bitter that I exist as a human being. I love everybody. Just some more than others. I just think you are clear mafia here. So therefore I forgot to do some pleasantries. Here is a joke to make up for my rudeness. Why can’t you hear a pterodactyl going to the bathroom? + Show Spoiler + His pee is silent | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 11:42 Trfel wrote: @Koshi:Why are you ready to be lynched/why do you want to be lynched? 1) My town game is too stereotypical. So people are calling me town D1. I am getting shot N1. My mafia game suffers because I am unable to produce the same as mafia. I am not capable to up my mafia game. But I am very capable to downgrade my townplay. So I need to get lynched a bunch of times so that my future mafia teams have a chance. 2) Pretty sure I am not the only one who should try to hide his alignment better. Even Slam is being tip top town this game. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
 I wanted to be lynched. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
##vote Vivax The vote on palmar kinda did it for me. Claiming that was tje first vote on mafia. Just silly and mafia Vivax is silly balls to the wall. Before that realisation I took a better look at DMB. Because 14 > 15 but doesnt make it impossible. I was still not convinced. So Palmar can read DMB town and I will read sandroba town. Maybe we can talk about that tomorrow. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Is it not funny how Vivax pleaded and cursed at almost the entire playerbase in this last flurry of post but didnt mention you once. But imagine you are both town. Town!vivax not mentioning a town!marv in his tirade. At least I got a shoutout and I am actively lurking this game. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 12 2023 03:55 marvellosity wrote: 100% is a lot of percent Is this why you’re town on sandro? Not really. Just like palmar we are reading the same game and I dont hold sandroba to the super high standard some of you are. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Should have kept my vote on marv. Then you could have lynched sandroba. Meh. Overthinked it yesterday. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Thx. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 12 2023 16:39 marvellosity wrote: Be better please. We haven’t got enough ML for a stupid crusade on to me. I am warming up to the possibility you are not mafia. But rayn is not mafia. Slam is not mafia. Palmar is not mafia. Tfrel is not mafia. DP is not mafia. My love for sandroba might be cooling off due to peer pressurd but I dont want him lynched. He buddied me so well. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 12 2023 16:43 marvellosity wrote: You sure about all those? I had some similar feelings yesterday but I’m not so sure now. Why are you? I read rayn and Tfrel just after posting that and rayn is still fine. I was less happy with his change from Vivax to Sandrobe. I wondered for a second if he would change just base on filter size. Tfrel was harder to read but I still believe he is posting to keep the flow in the thread. If that falls away in the future I will reconsider. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
HF made an interesting link from Sandroba to Chez yesterday. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
HF has probably the best list of all. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I'll read into that tomorrow. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is probably the worst reasoning to vote for Vivax tbh at the moment. Why? Votes on sandroba, marv and hf at that point. (Iirc) Also the reasoning is not horrible. Vivax mafia is crazy, he just says things and hopes nobody notices it doesnt make sense. I was cohost once and noticed ot back then. Anyway. I was looking for a reason to switch off marv and filtered both dmb and vivax because those were my potential teammates with hf and marv. It was good enough. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 00:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: I ended up with list of: Holyflare Chezinu sandroba Trfel Koshi in no particular order atm. Everyone else i think is more or less town. Our list are close to each other and we both have each other on it. It's good that you want to lynch me because some people are backtracking on that. I need to play even worse tomorrow. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: see the thing was vivax said things and niticed it doesnt make sense, said it in the same post. What? I mean that it doesnt make sense in a game solving way. Like really. No votes on mafia at that point? So he townread all those names? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
It is the truth. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: can we talk for like 5-10mins, or are you too busy or ignorant to the game? I am here. Eating pizza. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Or you can also tell me why do you think i am mafia, that might lead to something as well. You werent out of the PoE because you had a 4 page filter. From what I glansed at it was some short combative replies to people. I didnt recall heavy thread presence. I didnt like the way you went off Vivax. Thought it could use more reasoning than the x filter page argument. Other than that not much but my list is more off a need to read into these set of people because marv was stepping up during the night which I dont see him do as mafia. And HF didnt look so bad on reread. Because his list is quite good and he reached that on his own. (Against thread sentiment) | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you mean that about 15 minutes before the lynch, while having not read about 25 pages, i should make a compelling argument on all candidates, then okay, you can call me mafia for my argument on why i voted who i did. I have not read the posts before the lynch. And didnt watch timestamps in the short filter dive. But anyway. Glad you agree that it was not compelling. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why does HF look better on reread? First of all. Ibdid like very short filter rereads and I dont remember what I thought. But that being said. I found his filter good enough to not lynch him tomorrow. And as I believe that mafia sits in his poe of 4+2 the only doubt I should have if his list is too good once the first reds fall. Or I should see if he tries to push the direction of the thread away from the reds in the list. I assume he ended up on Vivax so could be smart mafia. But could also be smart town. And I like the smart town idea more atm. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I set alarm at 4:40, thought i had 1 hour and a bit more, came in and posted, looked at voting thread, saw it's actually like 13 minutes, went to read on Vivax and sandroba filters, made a decision. That's it. Ok. I think it was unlikely I was going to go after you tomorrow btw. But you might stay in the PoE if I don't like the now 10 page filter. I'll let you know as soon as I reread. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who does HF think is mafia in his 4+2 poe? Cba to search it but it was Rayn Tfrel Vivax sandroba Chez I forgot last. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Did it anyways. December 11 2023 03:10 MSK - Koshi calls HF clear mafia. December 11 2023 15:20 MSK - HF list post why Koshi calls him town. Yes. It was only after reread after flip I realized. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not sure Koshi, do you realise i never voted for Vivax? It makes more sense what you're saying now. I did not know. It doesnt matter that much but it makes more sense that if you had to chose in a small timeframe that you use the argument you used. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I am not sure that is good .Anyway I like it. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am pretty sure there is never more than 2 mafia there, if that. DP is good Marv is good Slam blue claimed DMB was quick to lynch Vivax and I think she voted sandroba late. And I was very undecided on her when I reread her. So we can look there. I forgot the other players atm. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Slam has not blue claimed. In my head he is a blue mason. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's just sad you're very ignorant to any information in the game. It also makes me sad, because i wanted to play with people, not with random shit bots. I need to be lynched. Tomorrow I will try to read some more and be slightly more informed. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 07:19 Palmar wrote: Not read anything really since last night (I have some catching up to do) Still leaning on the fact that I liked his takes on most situations. But his whiny play is super annoying. How am I whiny. I just need to be lynched. And I am letting you giys know. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 08:04 DarthPunk wrote: I prefer the koshi that was smart and who flamed me. Weird I know. Yeah he is not coming out to play most likely. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
It is the truth? I was on marv. I thought marv and HF were lock mafia. And if you count the player number you get 14 with Vivax and 15 with DMB. So I only wanted to change to Vivax if I was sure about dmb. I read dmb. Wasnt sure. Then found that reason to vote Vivax and voted Vivax. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 08:09 DarthPunk wrote: Why did you not want to lynch your 'lock mafia' then? I wanted to consolidate. This is my first post on page 4. I dont want to bloat my filter. So I give you max 1 more question. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 08:10 DarthPunk wrote: Koshi who do you currently have as mafia? I'll doall the people I previously said + hf again. Maybe I shouldnt dismiss him. Sp somethong around DMB rayn Chez Tfrel Sandroba HF Bit too much I guess. If I have to soul pick HF because his play is clean. But I hope he is smart town. Like it is though because I hard defended sandroba and tfrel. I really need to read more. Sandroba buddied me with the "I think your reads are 100%". I gave in to peer pressure on him. Why is he calling me mafia? Not sure. I should recheck if dmb did too eagerly vote Vivax. And then somewhat reluctantly voted off Vivax. (Vivax is a treath for her) rayn I also just dont know. If he is reasonable he is more likely to be mafia. But I am more chill now as well so maybe we both are. Like rayn annoyed me in the good old days TvT. But ofc we can be friends and be TvT as well. So we will see. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Marv i have a weird question. Last game, how did your team feel about posting on night 1? We were all depressed and cba. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Town posts way too much and it is annoying as mafia. You are all posting way too much. I will be stopping now. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
1) She is flying under the radar. 2) I think she voted Vivax because he is a threat to her. And because Vivax posted a good list. On December 11 2023 11:16 die_meatbaby wrote: Okey what kind of wagon are you trying to build here. Like i really really try to see it but now you making my opinion on you even worse #vote vivax 3) Last one to move from Vivax to Sandroba. Even though she was moving with thread sentiment to a more Vivax is not mafia 30 mins prior. 4) Dont think she made 1 good post so far. Very bad of Palmar to make her so townie after that 1 "independent research" Vivax vote. Because really... That isn't that good at all. Anyway. Start putting her in your PoE people. ##Vote Sandroba (Last game I was mafai and I made a case on somebody and voted somebody else) | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 21:20 Holyflare wrote: Slam Palmar Koshi DarthPunk die_meatbaby Trfel Raynpelikoneet All of the above have some kind of reasonable series of posts that give them plausible deniability from being mafia, or at least that I think have posted things that I can see as even townie. Some of them even at multiple points (slam, DP etc). It leaves me with: marvellosity Vivax Chezinu Sandroba Sure, there's the chance that you're the town in this 4, and it's actually quite a high possibility(!) but I haven't seen the things comparatively that the other players above have given to cross you off the list. Which is crazy considering koshi and slam are in it. Vivax's posts are boring, he also has no proper engagement. Sandro similarly, more concerned with trying to look ok than solve the game. Chezinu is whatever, religious nonsense. Do you remember why you put DMB so high? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 00:08 Holyflare wrote: Your question was bad. Even if I had read it, acknowledged it and mentioned it I still would have given the same reasons to vote for you. You didn't seem to care about any of it and you were just giving reads I didn't think you would give. It's that simple. Get over it. If you want 2 names, I've given sandro and chez (and highlighted a post where chez breaks character that you should look at) but I can't really give you more than that other than I'm going to investigate trfel when I have some free time. I think you look better purely from Sandro's filter. I think dmb, marv, possibly dp, slam all look better from their actions in the night surrounding the vivax lynch. I think Koshi is a bit misguided but I don't think it's in a bad way, he's actively trying to shut down avenues for wagons. Although his last one he tried to shut down was sandroba which I probably need to get in to but I don't think it was done in an agenda-y way. He also raised the point (and was seemingly the only one to acknowledge at the time) my point about chezinu, which seems like good stuff. Palmar is similar to koshi imo. I don't think his agenda has been malicious and I don't think he's pushing things to get the thread to go after mafia. Starting to highlight me for lack of activity is the proper play here as a townie and I think it's more than just going through the motions in that regard. If I had to make an order it would be: Sandro => Chez => Trfel => You => DP => DMB How did DMB look better in the night before the lynch? She was not a prominent figure there. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote: So In your world, mafia DMB rolled the dice and tied up the votes, where another vote kills sandro, who you think is mafia? I don’t understand why DMB chooses d1 lynch time to be most active if she is mafia, it’s just asking for trouble Well. If Sandroba is not mafia. DMB prefers to lynch Vivax. I think that is an important fact. If Sandroba is mafia. We will have to consider how pressured she felt to switch as mafia with him. Praying nobody else woke up. Not switching would have looked 100% damning because she was moving away from mafia Vivax for a while. At least 3 posts in 1h30 before the switch. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 20:21 marvellosity wrote: But then why choose to be active around a lynch when mafiaxDMB knows that Vivax is town and Is therefore liable to start shitting towniness? She chooses to be in the the thread while a town-Vivax has already started to post prolifically. Seems like a crazy gamble? She lives with Vivax and Vivax was online? Kinda sus if she is not posting anything while Vivax is fighting for his life. Maybe shitty reason but your reasoning is pretty meh as well. Like she has 20-30ish posts or so at that moment. There must be a time she actually plays. Maybe she decided there. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I think that is a fair team. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 22:36 sandroba wrote: Koshi, what made you read me town in the first place? What made you think I'm mafia now? I thought your initial post after 2 people posted was you overachieving and setting a statement you were going to carry the game. After that I was potentially buddied by you and you shared all my reads. Now I don't have any real reason for you to be mafia except that marv is voting for you. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
tfrel: 1 hit. (DMB was mentioned in a quote, 0 times mentioned by Tfrel) Sandroba 4 hits (1 time from my DMB is mafia post, which sandroba didn't expand on, just asked why I found him mafia) the other 3: On December 12 2023 07:23 sandroba wrote: I feel like rayn, you and koshi are town. Lean town on slam, palmar (move to town if vivax is scum) Neutral on hf, chezinu, dmb I lean scum on vivax, marv, conflicted on trfel. On December 13 2023 07:42 sandroba wrote: dmb also looks bad On December 13 2023 11:56 sandroba wrote: I think mafia is within HF Trfel Chez Marv Koshi DMB. Would leave the last 3 for last maybe? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 01:15 sandroba wrote: Somewhat likely, but according to your own logic we should kill either me or trfel or both first? Bwaa. Simply isnt normal that nobody talks about her. In theory one of you could be town and ignoring her. Both? Unlikely due to PoE but if you are both town then she is it at the minimum really flying under the radar. And protected by higher powers. (For example Palmar) | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 01:16 sandroba wrote: Can you comment on the posts I quoted from Trfel? I dont understand the case in it. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 04:36 Holyflare wrote: 0 words about me You made the list twice so it's not all bad. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Need to sleep but this Dyson Sphere Peoject game is ruining my body. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 18:09 marvellosity wrote: I have doubts but I’m not thrilled with any other lynch either. I’d rather you didn’t blind sheep me and told me your view on sand? I know you said you had no reason to scumread him, but is that all there is to it? Yes. I have said this clearly all game. I don't hold him to the same standards as you guys do. I think I read a decent case which made it plausible that he is under performing. So in that aspect I can see it. But I think DMB is performing worse than Sandroba (which doesn't make her more mafia) | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?user=Trfel | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:00 marvellosity wrote: All bs about your mafia game and town game aside, what’s your reason for a lack of drive today? My hearth and head are in a calm place and I am happy with the way I am approaching this game. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:04 marvellosity wrote: :/ But don’t you really want to lynch mafia… I will not waste my vote and put it were I think it needs to be for town. I was wrong yesterday. Completely. Today I think DMB is mafia, I think her lists are ridiculous and the fact Palmar is mafia 5/6 times in upper lists makes me suspicious that DMB and Palmar are mafia. I didn't think sandroba and Tfrel were mafia yesterday. I still don't see it for myself but I can sheeep you because your activity during night was more than enough to trust you. I think rayn could be mafia but he is not a main suspect. HF is town Palmar is town for me but like I said. DMB made me doubt it slightly. Slam is very town for me. But apparently the mason thing is randomed so I am not sure if that affected me. But I really like how he played so far. He is readable, even though I haven't really tried. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:11 marvellosity wrote: Can you explain for me a little? I’m flicking through rayn’s filter in that game you linked. Turns out my memory of peoples play styles as mafia from 5+ years ago may have been fuzzed by time. HF? I think he is chill and trying to solve the game. Not caring about how he is positioned in the thread but caring enough that his contribution are validated in the town. (with his "I am an asset" comment & wanting to be noticed by DMB & maybe even saying I hate him while I obviously don't but he wants to be "part" of town because he has no scumteam) rayn? Dont know. It is a feeling that can be wrong. What is he really thinking atm? I am so uninterested about the HF thing. For the rest. I don't know. I said it before. To be really town to me, he needs to scratch an itch he didn't scratch yet. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 10 2023 13:25 Trfel wrote: I guess instead of waiting I'll let the cat out of the bag, I'm impatient. This post seems very wishy-washy, non-committal, and pointless. The first paragraph doesn't really say anything of substance (not that it's wrong per se, just doesn't really contribute anything meaningful to the game). The second paragraph is the same way. To me, he seems to end with exactly no read (and next to no thoughts) on Alakaslam. There's even "I like the poking about smiles, but it's phrased as a question so there is avoidance as well" which seems like aggressive-but-with-a-heavy-grain-of-salt that is easy to say without actually committing to it. "Posting within what I expected" and "not leaning one way or the other based on initial posts" doesn't end up meaning much at all. The other thing I want to note is all of the caveats and grain of salts and backtracking in sandroba's post. Not exactly sure how to phrase what I mean, but see here, in red: He's shying away from saying something, like making a read and then backing off from it. Or giving a reason to doubt what he just said, or placing a limiter on it. For such a small post, it's riddled with it. To me, this comes across as trying to be non-committal and playing the "safe game" while making it look like you are saying things and trying to figure things out. Tbh there really is no way that mafia does this to each other at the very start at the game. So 1 of our wagons is town. On December 10 2023 20:29 Trfel wrote: I mean I don't like that DarthPunk is disagreeing with me, I don't know if that makes him mafia though. Townies disagree about things fairly often. I can still stand by my view of sandroba and not be sure about DarthPunk, no? Of sandroba's alignment? Not very. His opening post felt very suspicious, but it's just one post. That could just be the way he thinks and communicates his thoughts. I'm very interested to see how he follows it up. This is good imo. I don't know if that post is easy to make as mafia. On December 10 2023 21:06 Trfel wrote: DarthPunk, care to explain this? Consistently on sandroba On December 10 2023 21:24 Trfel wrote: I assume you are talking to me, I am having a bit of trouble understanding what you are actually getting at here though. Yes, I think sandroba is suspicious. No, I wouldn't wager high stakes on it. He's one of the people I'm most interested in (along with Alakaslam and perhaps yourself and an off-chance of Vivax), but I'm not certain yet. I posted the way I did to try and figure out sandroba's alignment (and eventually everyone else's). Just because I'm not very confident yet doesn't mean that I can't figure things out and investigate and that sort of thing. I didn't bring any aggression, that's just me trying to ask questions and figure things out. If there is anything you'd like me to clear up please don't hesitate to ask, I'm just having a bit of trouble understanding this post though, it feels a bit nebulous to me. Good answer. 0 fear. On December 10 2023 21:27 Trfel wrote: You said that being aggressive early is good, right? I assume good meaning town-indicative, as opposed to mafia-indicative. So why then is someone being strongly committed a mafia trait? Does that mean that if someone is aggressive early but not committed then that indicates town? That doesn't make much sense to me, why would someone be aggressive without commitment, in fact how is that even possible? same On December 10 2023 21:28 Trfel wrote: Wait, what? I'm gonna need you to explain this one as well. Here he start flipping onto DP On December 10 2023 21:49 Trfel wrote: So did you not think I was mafia? On December 10 2023 21:59 Trfel wrote: I see, that makes a little more sense. I was finding it suspicious that you seemed so sure of me being mafia (see here for example) and then call it a pressure and back off. Conveniently after people such as marvellosity and Vivax also show suspicion about sandroba's opening post and your push onto me didn't seem to get much support. It feels like you're giving up really easily, for being so certain, unless it was just a pressure, but it doesn't read like a pressure to me? Or maybe that's the point of the pressure. Regardless though, the timing feels rather convenient. And after this he goes more after DP. I just don't see all of this coming from mafia. If you are God Mafia maybe. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 11 2023 03:04 Trfel wrote: Part of it is Vivax's first post (here), which we discussed briefly. I didn't like how weak his questioning to sandroba feels, Vivax recognized the issues with sandroba's post but didn't seem to want to challenge sandroba over it or actually do anything with this knowledge. The other thing was that Vivax's posts didn't seem to have any order, he pulled quotes from seemingly random points in the thread. I can't follow the thought process that leads him to bring up the things he did, and especially not in that order. This isn't necessarily mafia indicative, it just feels weird and I'm not sure what to make of it yet.I eagerly await your report. In all this DP fighting he then makes a good post about Vivax. I think he is with the firsts to notice Vivax. On December 11 2023 04:35 Trfel wrote: Vivax, curious if you have any thoughts on DarthPunk? And again is consistent in poking his scumreads. This is only page 2. But it is really good imo. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:35 marvellosity wrote: Follow up question Koshi Then why does (strong townplayer) sand think Trfel is mafia? I shall read sandroba later. But even I waffled on tfrel. And some people are voting Tfrel. So Sandroba is not alone. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 02:51 Holyflare wrote: Trfel + Show Spoiler [posts] + #72 - This is the beginning of when trfel didn't like sandro. I think the highlighted part of sandro's post is extremely waffley and bad so like that he's picking it out to pre-empt what he's about to say and get a response to it. ++ #74 - Sandro responds and to me, it looks like he should be town reading slam in #73 but somehow in his original conclusion he downplays the town read. Trfel picks up on this in this post and his next post (#75), indicating that Sandro makes absolutely no read on slam whatsoever even though he writes a lot of lines about him so it's just kind of pointless. ++ There's a bunch of questions thrown out in the next few posts and at least he follows up a bit with sandro. Not sure I like that in #118 he just kinda fobs sandro's response off but I like that he expands what he's thinking to DP. Sandro's post is riddled with open-ended unsureness that didn't seem to have a purpose. I like even more that he tries to question Slam over Slam thinking that all the reactions were overblow and it could just be mafia/mafia theatre. I'm not sure I like that Slam post even (will investigate) but Trfel does a good job of trying to dig into someone that looks like they have a thought process incongruent with theirs. ++ #120 Oh, he basically says exactly what I said above and takes back the town read. Pretty good imo. ++ Same kinda vibe with questioning DP in #124 Next few posts are just a bit of back and forth with marv interjecting and talking to DP about the sureity of his sandro read and it not being very sure. I think #136 the ending feels a bit robotic "I'm very interested to see how he follows it up" is just so generic. I also think #143 is also extremely generic in a way that the post is too formulaicly worded. Like he's just going through the motions of scum reading sandro and waiting for the next step of his programming to happen without interjecting real thoughts. -- Actually kind of like the highlighted bits being pointed out in #146, they don't really make any sense to me (DP saying that mafia likes to take strong commitments early ???). I actually hate DP in these interactions lol, good thing I didn't pay enough attention to them. ++ trfel The next few posts in #156, #157, #159 are all good responses to DP making wtf accusations and then a weird unvote. I like that Trfel wanted it followed up. Gonna stop linking to posts now, cba. #167 is a good question to vivax. Not sure exactly what vivax was going to achieve with his sandro question and it shows trfel is still interested in interactions in and around sandro. #169 is basically a scum read on DP without actually saying as much. I'm not sure why he stops short of outright calling DP mafia. Don't really like it. I guess you could say he doesn't really make a conclusion on sandro too although you could argue that's just a feeler content creation case with more poignant accusations. Don't like this post regardless --- #257 Quite like the initial points on Vivax that trfel talks about but the second half of it seems like something extra tacked on for no reason. If he doesn't know what to make of the order or if it's alignment indicative why does it matter? Feels like adding words for the sake of it and a bit hypocritical in the same respect as his accusation to sandro earlier. -- #262 Think sandro mentioned this in one of his recent posts but I also don't like that he callously threw out the vivax suspicion beforehand, found out it wasn't actually true and then still used it to almost double down on ANOTHER meaningless reason to not like what vivax said. Vivax could have quite easily caught up by skimming and then gone back to poke at questions so seems pretty mediocre. --- As a caveat to the above, in this post above he mentions that he doesn't like that DP has fallen off after the questioning of him (doesn't bring back up the other DP points he disliked before, at least not yet. Just kinda outs it which is fine imo. Don't hate it.) + He makes some throwaway question to me asking why I think rayn is mafia, has some follow up with rayn about vivax's posts again in #272 as if that line of thought even means something anymore. Meh. At least he acknowledges that in the same post and is just more concerned with Vivax's lack of involvement. #287 Points out that I agree with what Vivax is saying (has a overarching view of most of Vivax's posts/stances). Will await to see the conclusion to what I say before questioning whether this is a good post or not because I'd be extra curious about what I said, given my answer was something crap like "I forgot". #328 tries to get vivax (a scum read) to comment on DP (presumably a scum read but kind of unsaid). Good follow up I guess, shows thinking about the game at least, even if an easy post. + #335 A correct take but not sure I understand why he's more concerned about my "overall picture of play" when I've made like 2 posts. Here is where he mentions that DP is probably asleep and wants my thoughts too. Mmmm. Questionable post imo. -- #388 No reads list but Vivax/DP/Koshi (first mention)/Sandro are in his suspect list. Not sure where Koshi came from or how. fuck me I'm bored of investing myself into playing this game it's tedious af, just gonna summarise the rest lot more back and forth with DP about really silly nitpicking points imo. I don't think trfel's points are that bad that DP fell off after the push on him and did not much (will double check between when DP stopped pushing and went to bed to clarify). I also don't think his point about the marv push was that bad either. Koshi read is phoning it in but fine. Shared sentiment. #428 is a bad post (the one talking about DP sleeping with no other push in the thread). ------ his posts about DP calling sandro basically town are correct and DP's arguments are pretty bad faith voting for vivax is consistent and I don't think #666 is that bad given his posts previously, it's pretty much just a summary of what he's been saying, not a hipster new read thing I also kinda liked that he stopped interacting with the DP scum read, the frustration seemed real and I dunno if he'd be that frustrated as mafia? Although would he perhaps be more accusatory if he was town and thought DP was mafia and then go after him more? Maybe he's getting frustrated because he's being misrepresented and can't really fight back properly as mafia? One to think about more. #805 is a whatever defence of marv. Perhaps unwarranted and feels a bit like his defence of me for little reason. #815 possibly like this post #823 does mafia trfel really make this post to a town vivax if he knows this to be true? I'm not so sure he actually does. tl;dr 1) I think Trfel's opening posts on sandro are decent but the suspicion drops off the face of the earth. I don't like that. 2) His argument with DP is extra pointless from DP's side. I don't think the arguments that Trfel presents calling out DP are that bad other than the sleeping thing obviously which is a bit shit but not specifically what he meant. I need to check the timeline here for when DP stopped pushing Trfel and then went to bed because if it's straight away then Trfel's points are bad. If DP stays in the thread a bit aimlessly doing nothing then Trfel's points hold a lot more merit. 3) I think his Vivax suspicion is fine but he throws in a lot of extrenuous details into it that are basically meaningless and he eventually admits that. He defaults to the same kind of argument that he thinks DP is being mafia for (no thread presence or drive) which is an ok read. I actually liked his initial questioning of Vivax over his questions to Sandroba. It shows that he was interested in people interacting with his original scum read. 4) He kind of throws out some free town reads (or at least pressure appeasing reads) on me and marv out of the blue which I feel like I've seen him do before in a previous game, or at least it tickles my brain saying I have somewhere but I can't really get a feel for why he does it. Just seems out of the blue. 5) His argument with DP I think he was mostly correct on and DP was arguing in bad faith. He gets very frustrated with being misrepresented but it doesn't seem like he cares to go the extra step to call DP mafia here or campaign for him. Instead, he leaves and comes back and decides to ignore DP to stop the back and forth (which is fine) but I think he'd be more vocal about suspicions here on his return. 6) I really think that #823 is a post a mafia trfel probably doesn't make to a vivax that he knows is town? 7) I get the overall impression that Trfel is kinda sticking to scum reads and hasn't had much evolution of them? They seem a bit static, even if it appears he's questioning them. I dunno lol, could genuinely see him being town or mafia. I'd be more inclined to call him town, although I'm fully ready to be burnt by that position. Feel like I've wasted my precious time playing this game now. I skimmed this a bit too hard. But yeah. Imo if you are voting Tfrel you are setting up a second town wagon or he is the counterwagon. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
That is just bad. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 19:45 Holyflare wrote: I will never accept anyone as a player that lets chez get away with surviving if it comes down to that at end game btw. I am like 99% sure he's mafia and we don't have a way to deal with it. Would rather lynch someone that gives us information today obv but do not wifom yourself out of letting him live if you need to make that decision later in the game. Well. Your link from Chez breaking character to help Sandroba is pretty damning if Sandroba flips red. Should bring in some pressure. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 14 2023 23:54 Holyflare wrote: Did you know that you palmar haters could have the leading wagon now but instead you just whine about it and don't actually campaign properly for the wagons you want? tis true lol dmb slam sandroba | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 13 2023 10:44 Alakaslam wrote: Ok Town (not ordered) DP Rayn Marv Dmb Town lean Holyflare Mafia Trfel Sandroba ??? Rest unknown stance On December 13 2023 10:45 Alakaslam wrote: Likely busy. Possible mafia. His work schedule is mine on steroids. So your mafia reads are sandroba, Palmar, Chez and Tfrel? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 12 2023 02:37 Holyflare wrote: Noting this post because it's the first one where Chez breaks character and it's rayn talking about Sandroba doing nothing and deflecting. What do you make of this point HF made? Is it something mafia Chez would do? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Chez is liability. Sandroba/Chez still possible. Sandroba is posting so extra day isnt that bad. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 01:13 sandroba wrote: Koshi, what about your DMB read, why did you just drop it? I am not. I stated very clearly that she is my own scumread. I am simply not sure about her, people say she is badish town and not mafia, and I have no real reason to say they are wrong. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Can you build upon what we did today instead of saying irrelevant things about Tfrel and me saying you voted Vivax. Unless you are going to call us mafia. If you do that here and now. Then it is fine. But it doesnt seem like you are calling me mafia. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Tfrel and Koshi suck. Palmar is difficult to work with. I feel there was progress made today between marv/Palmar/Koshi/Sandroba and this weird aggressive slam | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: You talked ~20 pages about same stuff we did D1. Then Slam (and Trfel) orchestrated a switch to Chezinu, who everyone seems to think is mafia, but noone wants to vote for. Then i voted for Chezinu. So no townie!rayn recap on what happened last ~20 pages? Just whine about tfrel and Koshi thinking you voted Vivax. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i still think sandroba is mafia, but i also think Chezinu is mafia and noone seems to be willing to vote for him while thinking he is mafia and drawing some random conclusions about it. You must be blind. I have quoted this HF argument 2 times already to slam. I said explicit that Sandroba and Chez can be mafia to both marv and slam. Slam just angry. Marv disappointed. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why don't you want to vote for a person you think is mafia and blame me for it? I didnt blame you for the vote. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Slam is going berserk so if chez is town that is already worth it. But Sandroba is fighting real hard and I simply dont know if he is mafia. Marv is depressed so maybe that is his mind coming to terms with that he is wrong. If Chez is mafia. We have another exciting day. Because it opens up Palmar mafia and dmb bad town. But I still think Palmar town over rayn town. So here we are. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Got to stop caring about this game again. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
If not. Can you vote his wagon or at least tell him why you arent? Dafuq is this. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Didnt call marv/Palmar or koshi mafia but voted against them while calling their wagon mafia. Good stuff. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 03:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idc i am luring out HF here, take it how you will. Hf is more townie now and you are more likely mafia. That's how I take this dumb shit. You had to change your mafia team because you realised too late how retarded hf/sandroba/chez sounded. But you had to add sandroba to vote against 3 obvious townies. So yeah. I understand. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 04:32 sandroba wrote: Koshi you have absolutely no reason to be voting for me. You don't have a scum read on me. Assuming you are town, at best you are sheeping a read from stubborn marv who deep down realizes I'm town but is too lazy to re-interpret the game. At worst you are mafia siding helping them lynch an active townie who is contributing. Just to not vote on Chezinu who you believe is mafia. I shall follow marv. I disagree it is gross. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 12:18 sandroba wrote: Basically now we have to figure out who out of Rayn, Palmar, Koshi, HF, DMB is town. And I think we can 2 misses? So basically we need to pick one town out of this bunch. I'd be down to lynching Rayn first. His day 2 was extremely underwhelming, he avoided commenting on my alignment completely and voted Chez I believe mostly on town sentiment. I'd say the other one is Koshi, he read me town, but he refuses to come in and defend me and try to sway the vote off me. He only swaps to Chez to keep consistent with his "sheep marv" ordeal. Lies and slander. Keep it up. It is helping my goal. But for good order. I tried to get votes of Tfrel actively at first. When tfrel was on 4 and you on 3. And after that I pleaded to marv once to vote Chez over you. After slam came in. So I did things. Esp if Tfrel and you are town. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
DMB is not mafia anymore. rayn is. 3rd is unknown. Maybe it is Palmar lol. I'd go Palmar over HF. Maybe it is me? Who knows these things. Anyway. Night time is silent time. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Yep. Lynching rayn together will be so much fun! | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 16:00 marvellosity wrote: So sandro, if you are mafia after all, you need to do the right thing and NK me here so people can actually lynch you. Just sayin. You are making it bigger than it needs to be. Just let it rest. Even if sandroba is mafia, it is hard to understand how horrific it just was for you, and he is fighting for his life in this game. So it is quickly written down to beg for an unvote. So let it rest and talk about it endgame. Because this is almost emotional blackmail for Sandroba. That being said. rayn voted Sandroba with a weird vote D1 to make the sandroba wagon bigger. Basically making it TvT on D1. So Sandroba is town anyway. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I think Koshi maybe? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I resisted the Chezinu lynch? hahahahaha. That is just funny. But if that gets me lynched fine. Go tell the people that. The reason why Palmar might downgrade marv is because he was the main reason we were sitting on sandroba. I mean, you really need to kill marv here because he knows I wanted to move from Sandroba before he did and tried to talk him into it. I prefer you don't kill me because you know, I am going to get lynched and it would be against your wincon if I got nkilled. Also the fact you just got +20 pages of content and couldn't find anything suspicious on HF is interesting. Not willing to go into that fight again? Extra: I refreshed and saw your reasoning. See that quote is me telling marv it is time to switch and let Sandroba live another day. Sandroba also didn't get it I think so maybe I wrote it weird. But there are so many moments where I said Sandroba is not my own lynch and I sheeped marv. Extra 2: If you want to lynch me, you got to use the angle that I have no reads and am using marv to hide. That has a better chance to work. But I like that you aren't make this not too convincing so we can still be scumbuddies after you get lynched tomorrow. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
If you are town it is time to get really humble and talk to marv or something. But do it in a way where you are the newest padawan and he is the oldest Jedi master. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 16 2023 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I literally made you, sandroba, Koshi and Palmar act super fucking weirdly (and to some extent marv) based on the new information in thread. Now i just have to figure out who is mafia. What are we talking about here? | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 16 2023 06:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: My vote on Chezinu. Let's say you did come in uninformed in the thread. You didnt realise thet this sandroba lynch was breaking up. How weird would my reaction be that I want you to vote sandroba with the town "leaders". Maybe slightly weird. I was just flabbergasted by the off wagon vote on Chez on the what I felt was the pivot point in the game. Slam was so angry we didnt vote Chez, Sandroba was defending hard, I already asked marv to switch. And then you come and break up the flow yabbling about some irrelevant stuff. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm If you are not mafia. Only DMB Palmar makes sense to me. Sandroba is not mafia to me anymore. Tfrel I really don't see it. Only activity based because his filter is good. DMB having palmar 5/6 times in her scumlist is just wtfbbq. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
And your vote on Sandroba d1 is also sus. But also there it might be coincidence I guess. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 15 2023 01:01 Koshi wrote: Marv should we switch? There is no way this is mafia slam and sandroba doing this right? On December 15 2023 01:03 Koshi wrote: I can't believe slam is mafia. Chez is liability. Sandroba/Chez still possible. Sandroba is posting so extra day isnt that bad. Both posted before you came. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Funny comment from hf "You haters could start a palmar wagon" But those haters except for dmb are town so some people are seeing it. He just played us. Palmar killed Vivax because DMB is his teammate. I got major alarm bells going off after dmb posted. I like it. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I need to play worse next game. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Because you were vote 3 on sandroba. Making the wagons potentially TvT for the rest of the day. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
(Good night. I need to stop posting) | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 16 2023 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: D1 it was 13 minutes left in the day, there was NO ALTERNATIVE than Vivax or sandroba, i decided to vote for sandroba. You can't fucking just say i "made the wagons TvT" because the other alternative is T v nothing"..... Ah ok. I didnt know if it was 2h or 15 mins tbh. Sloppy by me. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 16 2023 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Thread sentiment was definitely not towards Chezinu lynch. Yes everybody is lying. You did it rayn. Anyway. Its Palmar/DMB and I am willing to stake the game on it. | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Thank you Grack for hosting!!! | ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
| ||
|
Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On December 24 2023 22:08 Vivax wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about but I know that if you don't become antisocial at least tendentially in this society, you are not unlikely to be part of the problem and this game is a good example of that. How to prove democracy sucks in one game. Doesn't matter how much you stroke each other's egos if the outcome is that you gang up on minorities when it suits you. Peak hypocrisy. Sorry that I don't like to pretend to be nice to everyone and in a good mood constantly. Scandalous that I don't like to be forced to lie. I meant I getting lynched. You getting nked. | ||
| ||
