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I am good with starting on the 23rd.
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Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now!
Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015.
VE is null he hasn't posted anything since a few hours ago will wait for judgement on him.
dmb is null the stuff for why she scumreading Vivax is very odd?
Koshi is town so far he been posting like I remembered how he was when I played back then.
Rayn looks town I like the pressure on dmb from him so far and waiting for a conclusion of his pressure on her.
DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb?His evolution of his read on Marv does seem organic. Null for now I guess.
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On May 23 2023 23:36 Koshi wrote:
Hi LightningStrike! Long time no see. Good to have you in this game.
Been to long man! My last game was in 2020 how you been?
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On May 23 2023 23:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:35 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... nope Mafia Vivax is not scary at all.
True he is pretty easy to catch the best to catch him at Day 2 from what I remembered about him.
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On May 23 2023 23:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:37 LightningStrike wrote:On May 23 2023 23:36 Koshi wrote:
Hi LightningStrike! Long time no see. Good to have you in this game. Been to long man! My last game was in 2020 how you been? Life is good. How are you? I remember a hospital visit back in 2020? 🤔
Been doing good I been trying to finish University but still got a few semesters left and no i didn't need a hospital visit if I remembered? You might of been thinking of someone else unless I forgot.
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Maybe Vivax? Just speculative atm. How you been?
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On May 24 2023 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
Also LS, always a pleasure
Always a pleasure playing with you how you been doing now a days? Sorry about that lynch on you on Day 2 in that game 
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On May 24 2023 00:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 00:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe Vivax? Just speculative atm. How you been? Hey LS ! Doing okayish at the moment, thanks. Sometimes I get bored of being in discord with rayn and doing drinking games and I poke in here again.
That's good you doing fine! Is there anything you want to talk about?
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On May 24 2023 00:36 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 00:25 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 00:21 Vivax wrote:On May 24 2023 00:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe Vivax? Just speculative atm. How you been? Hey LS ! Doing okayish at the moment, thanks. Sometimes I get bored of being in discord with rayn and doing drinking games and I poke in here again. That's good you doing fine! Is there anything you want to talk about? Nothing in particular. You come across as townie tone-wise, that‘s about it for new stuff. Slam I couldn‘t read either way.
Sounds good. Hopefully someone who is good at reading Slam can post in here how think of him so far.
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On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention.
Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you?
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Hey guys catching up now was busy yesterday and this morning dealing with stuff will post thoughts when i get caught up!
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On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.
This post is not so good....
On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you? I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it.
I disagree I felt like it actually helped me with Marv's alignment there. He doesn't like giving reads when asked as town from what I remembered.
On May 24 2023 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Lightning Strike you also asked about vivax, don't have much on that right now other than vibes but if he posts a little more I'll be able to come to a more concrete conclusion.
Fair enough.
On May 24 2023 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
Rayn what do you make of MZ’s case on me?
I am heavily biased, naturally.
I am not Rayn but I felt like his case on you was bad like horribly bad but idk if it means he's mafia or not.
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me 
Chezinu, Onegu, and Sentinel didn't post?????
On May 24 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:Catch up post:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I was busy last night and didn't check to see if the game started and caught up now!
Marv looks town to me? I think he would of folded as mafia considering he is known for that given the pressure he was getting from DP but he continued posting his thoughts like I remembered how he was in XXX in 2015. You don't think it is possible that scum!marv would be able to post under pressure. I also remember Marv just folding as scum a few times back in the day, but I always considered that a symptom of burnout more than anything else because I also recall some monster scum games from him. Is there any other reason that marv looks town to you? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 23:32 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I didn't like his early posting towards Marv (Even suggesting Marv is mafia??) and then gave a hard townread on dmb?
I don't like this because it feels like it is a gross simplification of what actually happened and ignores a lot of the nuance. I feel like I have been fairly open with my thought processes and ideas as they have changed, so I am unsure how this is genuinely where you could land in your analysis. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 00:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 23:35 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... nope She’s bang on, I thought….. lol. Its a trauma response. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 00:15 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 00:07 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 23:37 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 23:35 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... nope Mafia Vivax is not scary at all. She‘s talking about marv though  Ah true. Marv probably told her in Discord. Brb checking their posting times. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 00:16 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 00:15 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 00:07 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 23:37 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 23:35 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record. Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason. Like you on Vivax and rayn? It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him. New game new Mafia... nope Mafia Vivax is not scary at all. She‘s talking about marv though Ah true. Marv probably told her in Discord. Brb checking their posting times. Checked it. They post at different times and ignore each other to make it less obvious they are plotting on Discord. I don't think this is helpful. I would rather see some empathetic engagement and give her some space to do other things. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 02:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Dammit I have no reads outside the one that, if you don't see it
You stupid m8 I am really struggling with posts like this in this game. I get the need to flex and what have you but don't you think making your reads and reasoning clear for others is an important part of town play? I just want people to share a clear position with shared reasoning and then have that either stand up to scrutiny or not. Otherwise I will just keep asking apparently stupid questions. Such as: what read is this? why is it so obvious? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 02:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Maybe 1 soft sr but
Seriously
I'm not one to lynch people for 1 post. What post are you referring to? This is really unhelpful, i'd love to be able to understand your thought processes but I just can't without enough information. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you? What makes vivax seem pretty townie to you? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv. I hate this. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. I really don't like this post VE. first of all, we have similar reasons to read DMB as town, and you have a really strong town read on her, generally when people say things that I agree with I lean toward them being town, not mafia. Secondly I don't understand why if you think one of Marv or myself is mafia that you would not want to lynch one of us. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 03:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. So you’d follow a newbie you are pretty sure is townie over a vet (yourself) who you presumably know is townie? Okay VE Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you don want to lynch EITHER of your scumreads, but instead follow a total newbie even onto one of your townreads? Also this. @VE was that hyperbole or would you actually just vote whoever meat baby decides?
Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:34 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you? I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it. You realise getting someone to give answers - by asking questions - is what allows others to make reads? It's not your job to make reads for others, its your job as a townie to come up with your own reads based on the thread as you read it. If you're asking questions it should be with the intention of refining or correcting your own reads. You still haven't been able to provide even one "I think I'm leaning scum on person X" post that you're willing to stand behind. DarthPunk doesn't count because you're not willing to stand behind it. Do you think it is more likely that mafia or town would seem indecisive? I think it would have been fairly straightforward for scum!marv to have called me mafia based on my weak posts, instead he said he didn't know and seems orientated toward information gathering which is a pretty townie place to be day one. ( representing genuine inquisitiveness is hard to fake) Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2023 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. Ok let's walk through this so that I understand. You say that there's one mafia between Marv/DarthPunk and it's probably DP, does that mean you'd want to lynch Marv if DP flipped town? I'm always a little hesitant to accept reasoning like that. Right now I've got a slight town read on DP but if we lynched Marv and he flipped green, I don't think that would necessarily be alignment indicative to DP. I'm not usually one to draw it out like that either, that's just how I'm seeing things now...and like I said it's kinda moot right now because I don't want to lynch either of them. They're both maf players that will help me catch their teammates at least early on, so I'm into letting them. That reasoning is....commonplace, so marv taking issue with it is...interesting. He REALLY don't like the idea of lynching into lurkers it seems, which makes me WAAAAAAY more into doing so. Like I said, he helping me out :D Hmmm ok I can't townread you anymore. This is... not great if you think someone is mafia, even if they're the most mafia ever and it's gonna be a quiet day because they're so obvious there won't be much discussion, you still lynch the people you are sure are scum. Like if you believe marv is mafia you should be wanting to lynch him ASAP even if for some reason you feel his anti lurker lynching stance is helping you. @Marv: is this the kind of nonsense you referred to VE starting out with?Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 04:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:46 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 04:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:34 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 02:46 LightningStrike wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless. I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Your mb and Marv read stuff seem to contradict each other? Vivax though seems pretty townie atm. Why is he unimpressive to you? I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it. You realise getting someone to give answers - by asking questions - is what allows others to make reads? It's not your job to make reads for others, its your job as a townie to come up with your own reads based on the thread as you read it. If you're asking questions it should be with the intention of refining or correcting your own reads. You still haven't been able to provide even one "I think I'm leaning scum on person X" post that you're willing to stand behind. DarthPunk doesn't count because you're not willing to stand behind it. It’s not a townie’s job to help other townies make reads. Better to leave them in the dark. Got it MZ👌 I’m aware this is incredibly WIFOM, but do you not think a mafia marv is capable of making reads (and further, forseeing it might be necessary)? The way you help townies make reads is by providing your own and then discussing them, not by just asking questions for the sake of questions. I don't agree with this, at least at the start of the game. Later on it is fair enough to expect people to take positions, but generating information from others is super important also. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 05:02 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 03:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you don want to lynch EITHER of your scumreads, but instead follow a total newbie even onto one of your townreads? On May 24 2023 03:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. So you’d follow a newbie you are pretty sure is townie over a vet (yourself) who you presumably know is townie? Okay VE Did you guys plan this mindmeld in mafia!Discord? Meh that is the normal reaction to that post if you are experienced. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 05:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2023 05:07 marvellosity wrote:
VE - I told you already. Trusting another townread over yourself is at best bizarre.
Also thinking I’m scummy for not wanting to lynch into lurkers is also at best bizarre. It’s not like mafia are known for wanting an easy lynch on a lurker or something, is it VE? (He asks pointedly) That's not what I find off-putting, and I think its adorable that you think it's easy to lynch a lurker in this environment. Chances are we will, as a collective, vote-switch onto someone active like DP or Koshi based on something either you or rayn said, it will be a whole thing, and then the lurkers will live on until tomorrow. PLEASE tell me you think anything else will happen so I can laugh at you relentlessly. True. Lol. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On May 24 2023 05:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Bullshit. I'm going to work then. I can always lynch marv but the mindmeld with rayn was a total win. That is so hard to do as mafia. I think they are both town but still don't agree that this is very strong FWIW. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:24 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 05:46 Koshi wrote:
Ok I can't vote marv anymore.
I am saving the last pages for work. Because it is late and I dont want to think.
##unvote
##Vote: mebaby
Tbh I am not super duper happy with Vivax I think but this scumread from mebaby is totally insane. Like Vivax didnt even post a lot. Twice. And rayn was more active and was in the thread at the same time.
I can only imagine this is some weird crossover shit from irl mafia where the mafia has to fake reads in a fast pace game. Sorry was working last few hours... You really think they going to make a new girl directly mafia? I heard most of you weren't playing in years in this game is like legendary rematch after years... you think they taking the chance to ruin this game and make a new member (who never played) a mafia? Would you please answer the question I asked you earlier? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:28 Koshi wrote:
Also we are perfectly capable ruining this game without your help so no help needed. :D Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:30 Koshi wrote:
Do you feel lost in the game? Do you need some advise on how to proceed? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:31 Koshi wrote:
Finding towns is equally important as to find mafia. Do you have strong townreads and if you do, who and why? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:32 Koshi wrote:
I just want to know how you think and approach the game. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
I really like this from Koshi, I thought the tunnel was getting unproductive so giving space and trying to engage with meat baby is really positive. Koshi strong strong town read. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:49 Vivax wrote:
VE seems like another VE compared to how he approached the game initially. Might rethink the TR down the road. I take issue in the fact that his first post had that ‚aha‘ component while the followup ended up all over the place with little regard as to who the vote ends up on.
As for MB, I don‘t read the derpy reasoning as AI. Knowing the character of the player, it could be mild trolling or a beginner‘s approach to pressuring me.
I‘m probably biased, but the mech talk appears disingenous enough to be town imo. I prefer to leave that slot to others to figure out. By others I mostly mean my townreads Koshi, Rayn, LS atm.
Got to filter MZ still. Why is Lightning Strike town?? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:20 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2023 04:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 24 2023 04:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.
1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.
I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.
MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that. Ok let's walk through this so that I understand. You say that there's one mafia between Marv/DarthPunk and it's probably DP, does that mean you'd want to lynch Marv if DP flipped town? I'm always a little hesitant to accept reasoning like that. Right now I've got a slight town read on DP but if we lynched Marv and he flipped green, I don't think that would necessarily be alignment indicative to DP. I'm not usually one to draw it out like that either, that's just how I'm seeing things now...and like I said it's kinda moot right now because I don't want to lynch either of them. They're both maf players that will help me catch their teammates at least early on, so I'm into letting them. That reasoning is....commonplace, so marv taking issue with it is...interesting. He REALLY don't like the idea of lynching into lurkers it seems, which makes me WAAAAAAY more into doing so. Like I said, he helping me out :D Hmmm ok I can't townread you anymore. This is... not great if you think someone is mafia, even if they're the most mafia ever and it's gonna be a quiet day because they're so obvious there won't be much discussion, you still lynch the people you are sure are scum. Like if you believe marv is mafia you should be wanting to lynch him ASAP even if for some reason you feel his anti lurker lynching stance is helping you. I know you've played with BC before MZ, this is HOW he plays and I've seen the merit of it over many games. I accept that marv is mostly not lynchable D1, and I'm not interested in getting into a shitfest trying to make that happen - it will probably just get ME lynched. DP is in a similar place, but for his activity vs game-solvability. And because I don't know WHICH or IF either one is maf, I'm just not interested in pursuing that today. You can dislike my playstyle, but it's not scummy. It's just my playstyle. I have plenty of people I'd rather try and lynch D1 instead of you anyway. Like who? Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
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Chezinu // seems like town What?... Please explain this. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:29 Koshi wrote:
Also imho marv is looking more and more as a sponge absoring information and potentially making it rain knowledge while dp is just sitting in marv's ass doing nothing. Not sitting in his ass, he is just making sense. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:29 Koshi wrote:
So this 1 mafia in marv/dp theory is not so horrible. Disagree. Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
People i don't want to lynch:
Koshi
Lightningstrike
marvellosity
Probably not Darthpunk either. From what i know DP is very aware of the state of the game when he is mafia, not afraid to engage in conversations with his scumbuddies, basically he tends to look very town especially early on. This game i feel like DP is more like.. clueless(?) at times, and i think it's more likely genuine "i don't know what's going on" rather than "i pretend i don't really know what's going on". If DP would be mafia he would probably be mafia with two peopel who haven't posted yet.
VE goes to the same category. I don't really agree with his conclusions, hell i don't even know why he writes what he writes but i don't really think VE as mafia would write what he writes.
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
Would lyncherino:
meatbaby -- what Koshi said
MZ is tricky. Last couple (three?) games i have been mafia and every time MZ goes to post something D1 i go like "man how the hell can anyone think anything like that (he has been town)?!?!?!" and then i go "man, how the hell can anyone think MZ is mafia?!?!?" and everyone wants to lynch him.. I don't get the same feeling at all here. Maybe it's because i am not mafia and i am looking at the game differently with not all the information. I can see MZ genuinely thinking marv is mafia but something just doesn't sit right there.
Slam is the least of these three. It's not really alignment indicative for him to "cling" on someone and answer to (all of) their posts, but nothing really makes me think he is town. Probably not mafia together with marv is my best conclusion atm.
Everyone who has not posted can also die for all i care. Or anyone who has posted and i had not in my list. I like this post, just don't really get the lightning strike read. Thanks for actually sharing your thought processes. I have caught up now. I think Koshi is pretty town. Marv and Rayn and MZ town but less clear than Koshi Meat baby - While I think my initial reaction was not incorrect, I don't like that she didn't answer my questions to try and draw out more information about her rayn read, and I really think her chez read makes no sense as a townie. If you are making genuine reads or analysing the game at all then how is Chez town? Worries me that it was clearly not genuine, so what else is not genuine? If she had just said "no idea" that would be infinitely more reasonable right, especially cause she said that about someone else who had actually posted. Just complete wtf?! moment that is not consistent from what I would expect from newbie townie.
Just reread your filter and you were a bit more open than what i remembered in the thread look better overall. Regarding my Vivax read: He has a super hard time posting as mafia and it super obvious by Day 2 but for now I think he playing his town meta.
Now onto page 25.
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On May 24 2023 20:38 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2023 13:59 Grackaroni wrote:
I do want to get this game started.
I'll start messaging around and try to see if I can get anyone to join (of course mentioning that Onegu is playing).
I'll set the game start at Tuesday, May 24 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in The game starting last year threw me off. I was focused on the 23rd, which was last night, which would have made it Tuesday (yesterday) if it was 2023.
Hey welcome to the game! Got any reads so far?
On May 25 2023 04:23 Vivax wrote:
I wasn't aware DMB knew my mafia meta.
It's quite simple, really. As town I'll run you an ironman, while as mafia I could tops do 1/10th of a marathon cause I'm mostly addicted to guessing things and I don't get that as mafia. You could have just asked tho.
##Unvote
##Vote Chezinu
Here's your cake. The cake is a lie.
May I ask why you voting Chez? You didn't seem to give a reason?
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And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.
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On May 25 2023 06:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax can you give me a list of your reads with some one liner of reasoning? Do you mind if I postpone it to next day? Also I‘d rather do it with flip info. I just want to have a plausible wagon before I detach from the game for a while. @LS The only reason I could see for Chez scum is that he ignored Koshi. Otherwise no particular reason other than me trying to vote with my TRs
Ya he hasn't posted anything since:
On May 24 2023 22:16 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 21:45 Vivax wrote:
Chez not going after Koshi is either scummy or he didn‘t catch up btw.
That‘s like an iron role of his to hard omgus the first who suggests to lynch him That only applies to new players
But even then he did sort of ignored Koshi and I do want him to post more to see his alignment better.
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On May 25 2023 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. To be fair marv isn't doing MUCH in the way of defending himself when people calling him maf this game, so not sure why that's relevant. The meat train is....not for me. It shouldn't be for you either. I recommend Vivax if your vote is like...up for grabs or whatever.
Not exactly defending himself per say but he did keep posting his thoughts he doesn't exactly give much of his thoughts as scum from what I recalled from what I played vs his scum and read Imperial mafia which was his best scum game for a long time. Regarding Vivax he's a town read of mine so nope I not lynching him.
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On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers. I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again.
Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm?
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On May 25 2023 06:07 Onegu wrote:
Also thanks LS for sending me a message on discord like I asked. So who all is in this game? Hrmm maybe its possible for me to be interested in reading... But how the fuck are there 45 pages already isnt this day 1? Like I know there are spammers here but Holyflare and rsoultin arent in this game what the hell.
Sentinel (who hasn't posted)
Slam
Chez
Vivax
Myself
Dp
Koshi
dmb (Vivax's friend)
Rayn
MZ
Marv
VE
and yourself.
That's all who are playing.
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On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers. I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again. Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm? This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation?
I wanted to see where he is at with Marv to gain another perspective? Like I know I could be wrong on Marv and all but he never posted it unless I misread his filter.
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On May 25 2023 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 06:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 06:09 LightningStrike wrote:On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest. Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers. I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again. Maybe I am not getting why people were getting paranoid of his scum game though? Regardless though what is your read on Marv atm? This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation? I wanted to see where he is at with Marv to gain another perspective? Like I know I could be wrong on Marv and all but he never posted it unless I misread his filter. the problem is vivax said pretty much the exact same thing you did, yet you didnt deduce where he stands?
OH derped -.- Lack of sleep is hurting me on that. He is townreading him nevermind Vivax.
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On May 25 2023 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
I’m running out of time. I am struggling to see how I am going to move off MZ for today even though I’m not ecstatic with VE.
I’m also having weird wifom-y thoughts about MZ bringing up LS, who is currently being a bit weird, which is making me want to stay on MZ (terrible I know)
Me being weird doesn't make me mafia? I always been weird when I play.
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On May 25 2023 06:21 Onegu wrote:
There is no reason I can find for meatbaby to vote me.
Therefore he is scum.
You are all welcome.
##Unvote
##Vote die_meatbaby
She did say her reasoning here:
On May 24 2023 17:58 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
@Die Meat Baby
Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?
Please actually answer the question this time. :D Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.
Wasn't exactly a good reason to vote you though over her biggest scumread in Vivax at the time.
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Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf?????
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On May 25 2023 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf????? and are you gonna do something about it?
Actually if we can find a wagon that isn't Vivax that I like I will join it because I have him as a strong townread.
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MZ I am not sure atm but I will do proper filter dives in about 5 minutes.
@DP Vivax hides a lot more as scum than as town the fact he was having tinfoil hat type of stuff is more town indicative of him being town from playing with him over the time i had played in TL mafia.
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Ok first filter I just looked at is MZ because I remembered he was wanting me dead and I did know people were wanting to lynch him: If he is town well he been tunneled on me and Marv this entire cycle and was making bad points towards Marv. Maybe mafia motivation because he refused to reconsider his reads on me and Marv.
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On May 25 2023 08:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 08:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 08:34 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 08:29 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 25 2023 06:13 Onegu wrote:
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Love you Marv but you should know that is not likely to happen. I got the message 30 minutes ago that this game started.
Maybe this is helpful
##Vote: Marvellosity I want marv dead more than anyone in this thread but I don't like this . I mean like shiiiittt... Yeah this is bad. lol. what's bad there? He doesn't like someone voting for his scum read close to deadline. really that's what is bad there? not the guy scumreading the other guy who scumreads his top scumread? Isn;t that what I said? lol. To be clear, I thought it was bad because MZ was casting doubt on Onegu who was voting for MZ's top scumread. If Onegu had stuck on Marv and actually justified his reasons/said he agreed with my analysis/done anything that resembled scum hunting to back up his vote we'd be having a different conversation. Instead he unvoted 8 MINUTES LATER and swung in another direction. Like I said before, scum can vote scum bois, it happens. Onegu throwing a vote on my read and immediately changing it does not clear him to me and it does not change my read on Marv. but your vote is on who???
His vote isn't on anyone at the moment.
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Ya I willing to lynch MZ i think he would flip mafia over Vivax especially because of his Marv read I did mention.
Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
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On May 25 2023 09:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey where did you go VE I CAME TO BE THE HERO IN YOUR TIME OF NEED. And you left immediately. That’s not very nice.
The ninjas got you lol
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First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........
Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.
Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game.
I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
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On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?
Yes it does and to answer about my reads. Well I going need to redo my reads because MZ was my biggest scumread and he ended up being town I need to reevaluate because clearly i am wrong about some of my reads.
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TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit.
Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared.
Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town.
Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it.
DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this:
On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed?
for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)
Which he did reply to my post here:
On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?
dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here:
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.
and continued here:
On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something?
and tried to act confident on lynching him here:
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously? She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point. Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases. I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance. I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too
she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me
When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1)
as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options.
Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town.
Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods.
VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.
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With that being said:
##Vote: DarthPunk
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First off I am sorry that i wasn't here for 48 hours i was with my Aunt who is waiting for a liver transplant and second of all perfect case by Rayn on VE if I was around I would voted VE if I was actually around and he flipped scum! Third I think this post by dmb:
On May 27 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit. Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared. Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town. Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it. DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this: On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed? for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here: On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) Which he did reply to my post here: On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f.......... Koshi said: On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.
Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.
Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first. Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon Look at here: On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that. Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch. And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake. What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip. I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already. Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive. I think you could be mafia. I will never make a case on you. I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia. I will never respect any read you make this game. I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there) You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right? dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here: On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. and continued here: On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something? and tried to act confident on lynching him here: On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously? She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point. Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases. I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance. I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem: On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.
Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started Alakasla // same as sentinel Chezinu // seems like town 4) Vivax // mafia 5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town 6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet 7) Onegu // also not shure 8) Koshi // def. town 10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia 11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know 12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts) 13) VisceraEyes // town But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1) as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options. Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town. Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods. VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that. First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover. At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to. Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should. Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure. I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well For now i make a new list with my thoughts 1) TankTopTiger Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town. 2) Alakaslam No opinen right now, but more like town 3) Chezinu Town 4) Vivax lynched day 1. Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts 5) LightningStrike Town (for now) 6) DarthPunk Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat 7) Onegu not activ, what should I say about it 8) Koshi killed night 1 sorry but told he is town 9) die_meatbaby doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now 10) raynpelikoneet def Mafia At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post. "Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town." This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life. 11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1 Sorry for saying you where m 12) marvellosity Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang) 13) VisceraEyes 1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus
Plus VE posts about dmb means that dmb actually is town most likely I don't see a newbie dmb to bus VE this hard Day 2 and him just keep town reading her. To answer your question TTT normally I am more active as either alignment but real life > everything and the majority of my posts on TL are indeed in mafia games I am surprised I wasn't mod killed at all given my absence.
Towards Darth: We only played together once and that was a long time ago in Student V where i was the Cop who caught your mafia buddy Trfel on a check but i had played many games since that game.
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Also Marv I know you are frustrated but I think you are town. Please just relax a bit and calm down man <3 you as well.
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Seriously no one is here to talk?? Been waiting for someone to talk in here but it been dead silence?
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sigh I guess no one wants to talk
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DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him.
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Like obviously i could be wrong on multiple people unless you think I am wrong in my assessment of dmb?
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On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam?
You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm.
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On May 29 2023 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Have you read the whole game
I had.
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On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Have you read the whole game I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect.
I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which
@Chez how do you read yourself?
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On May 29 2023 09:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Have you read the whole game I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect. I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which @Chez how do you read yourself? I viewed chez's vote at the time as caring about the result of the lynch, which, on a town vs town wagon, doesn't really make sense for scum CHEZ.
He said RNG'd to Vivax via someone posting on an even number post which i think he based it off of? Mafia motivation would be just no care because we know now both wagons are town and he could just lynch anyone at that point.
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On May 29 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously no one is here to talk?? Been waiting for someone to talk in here but it been dead silence? Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:sigh I guess no one wants to talk This feels really insincere honestly, like you haven't been active all game, which is fine (especially if you have IRL stuff) But then why would you make a show of there being inactivity in the thread? which up until this point has been really active, also its night time, so people are less likely to post stuff that they believe will influence the night actions of mafia. Your emotions are not consistent with your actions.
I wanted to talk to others about the game when I finally can play which again I had irl reasons why I couldn't play. I guess it's partially that I so used to people all the time at night when I was a active player that maybe it was a bit unreasonable. I don't know point being I wanted to talk with people and was just upset that no one wanted to talk to me.
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On May 29 2023 09:25 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Why do you think I am mafia, you seem very sure about this, to the point of not moving your vote on to mafia from me. So you must have a really strong reason, lets see it.
Stuff from what I posted earlier in my filter (My case on you) plus seeing VE flipped red the mindmeld could be faked. In addition right now I feel like your posting to post towards me?
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On May 29 2023 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:22 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Have you read the whole game I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect. I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which @Chez how do you read yourself? I viewed chez's vote at the time as caring about the result of the lynch, which, on a town vs town wagon, doesn't really make sense for scum CHEZ. He said RNG'd to Vivax via someone posting on an even number post which i think he based it off of? Mafia motivation would be just no care because we know now both wagons are town and he could just lynch anyone at that point. Didn't you just say that trolling is part of the reason you read chez as town? and then he was trolling in that post and you think he is scummy for that. I actually don't think that post was RNG I think it was saying he wasn't sure who to vote for and asking who he should lynch. Slam was straight on it and then made sure that the post he made correlated to the Vivax wagon, Its part of why I read them both as town basically.
The RNG stuff felt more serious to me at the time given everything but it could of been trolling? Idk though maybe i misread it that entire thing. Will recheck this stuff in a bit because I getting a headache and need to take medicine.
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On May 29 2023 09:49 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:25 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Why do you think I am mafia, you seem very sure about this, to the point of not moving your vote on to mafia from me. So you must have a really strong reason, lets see it. Stuff from what I posted earlier in my filter (My case on you) plus seeing VE flipped red the mindmeld could be faked. In addition right now I feel like your posting to post towards me? So I am mafia for attacking you? Is there anything else that you have considered in my 22 pages of filter?
Not exactly for attacking me but the manor of you attacking me. Felt like you went for an easy target in me (I am the most lynchable person in TL Mafia ever). Plus remember when you asked me about why I thought Koshi was killed? I had already had answered it and felt scummy how you did answer that post.
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On May 29 2023 09:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 09:52 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:22 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
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You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Have you read the whole game I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect. I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which @Chez how do you read yourself? I viewed chez's vote at the time as caring about the result of the lynch, which, on a town vs town wagon, doesn't really make sense for scum CHEZ. He said RNG'd to Vivax via someone posting on an even number post which i think he based it off of? Mafia motivation would be just no care because we know now both wagons are town and he could just lynch anyone at that point. Didn't you just say that trolling is part of the reason you read chez as town? and then he was trolling in that post and you think he is scummy for that. I actually don't think that post was RNG I think it was saying he wasn't sure who to vote for and asking who he should lynch. Slam was straight on it and then made sure that the post he made correlated to the Vivax wagon, Its part of why I read them both as town basically. The RNG stuff felt more serious to me at the time given everything but it could of been trolling? Idk though maybe i misread it that entire thing. Will recheck this stuff in a bit because I getting a headache and need to take medicine. Im really sorry if you are town and this is all legit, but I mean, you literally just complained about people not talking to you in the thread, and then when I do, you cant talk about it or go into it? Come on bro.
Didn't have to do the game it's a sinus headache and I just checked after getting some medicine. It was RNG'd here it is:
On May 25 2023 10:44 Chezinu wrote:
If the next post starts with an odd character of the alphabet, I vote MZ. If even Vivax.
I could change my mind.
This felt serious in the bold unless you think he was trolling that entire post?
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I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ.
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On May 29 2023 10:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 09:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:52 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:22 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:31 DarthPunk wrote:
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Have you read the whole game I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect. I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which @Chez how do you read yourself? I viewed chez's vote at the time as caring about the result of the lynch, which, on a town vs town wagon, doesn't really make sense for scum CHEZ. He said RNG'd to Vivax via someone posting on an even number post which i think he based it off of? Mafia motivation would be just no care because we know now both wagons are town and he could just lynch anyone at that point. Didn't you just say that trolling is part of the reason you read chez as town? and then he was trolling in that post and you think he is scummy for that. I actually don't think that post was RNG I think it was saying he wasn't sure who to vote for and asking who he should lynch. Slam was straight on it and then made sure that the post he made correlated to the Vivax wagon, Its part of why I read them both as town basically. The RNG stuff felt more serious to me at the time given everything but it could of been trolling? Idk though maybe i misread it that entire thing. Will recheck this stuff in a bit because I getting a headache and need to take medicine. Im really sorry if you are town and this is all legit, but I mean, you literally just complained about people not talking to you in the thread, and then when I do, you cant talk about it or go into it? Come on bro. Didn't have to do with the game it's a sinus headache and I just checked after getting some medicine. It was RNG'd here it is: Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 10:44 Chezinu wrote:
If the next post starts with an odd character of the alphabet, I vote MZ. If even Vivax.
I could change my mind. This felt serious in the bold unless you think he was trolling that entire post?
EBWOP
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On May 29 2023 10:09 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:04 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:59 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:52 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:34 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:22 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:05 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
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I had. Can I ask why chez was town, then null, and now a scumspect. I had him town early because he felt like his normal trolly self. I went null due to how he voted Vivax which i felt like was scummy (RNGing your lynch there on two wagons????) I didn't call him scum no i said i needed to read him better. I do know his true tell tale sign which @Chez how do you read yourself? I viewed chez's vote at the time as caring about the result of the lynch, which, on a town vs town wagon, doesn't really make sense for scum CHEZ. He said RNG'd to Vivax via someone posting on an even number post which i think he based it off of? Mafia motivation would be just no care because we know now both wagons are town and he could just lynch anyone at that point. Didn't you just say that trolling is part of the reason you read chez as town? and then he was trolling in that post and you think he is scummy for that. I actually don't think that post was RNG I think it was saying he wasn't sure who to vote for and asking who he should lynch. Slam was straight on it and then made sure that the post he made correlated to the Vivax wagon, Its part of why I read them both as town basically. The RNG stuff felt more serious to me at the time given everything but it could of been trolling? Idk though maybe i misread it that entire thing. Will recheck this stuff in a bit because I getting a headache and need to take medicine. Im really sorry if you are town and this is all legit, but I mean, you literally just complained about people not talking to you in the thread, and then when I do, you cant talk about it or go into it? Come on bro. Didn't have to do the game it's a sinus headache and I just checked after getting some medicine. It was RNG'd here it is: On May 25 2023 10:44 Chezinu wrote:
If the next post starts with an odd character of the alphabet, I vote MZ. If even Vivax.
I could change my mind. This felt serious in the bold unless you think he was trolling that entire post? It felt flippant to me more than anything
I can see that from your perspective maybe I did read to much into it.
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On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia?
To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town.
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On May 29 2023 10:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:01 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:49 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 09:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 09:25 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 07:09 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
DP I only got you so far but I might be tunneled. But outside of that I do need to figure out Slam (who I got no idea how to read properly as either alignment) and Chez a bit better and go from there and that is why I was wanting to talk. I do got a way to read Chez but I really hope he comes so I can do my way to read Chez. If i am wrong on any of my town reads it might be Marv but however I am confident in my read on him. So your scum team is me, chez and Alakaslam? You, VE(flipped) , and ? that where i am atm. Why do you think I am mafia, you seem very sure about this, to the point of not moving your vote on to mafia from me. So you must have a really strong reason, lets see it. Stuff from what I posted earlier in my filter (My case on you) plus seeing VE flipped red the mindmeld could be faked. In addition right now I feel like your posting to post towards me? So I am mafia for attacking you? Is there anything else that you have considered in my 22 pages of filter? Not exactly for attacking me but the manor of you attacking me. Felt like you went for an easy target in me (I am the most lynchable person in TL Mafia ever). Plus remember when you asked me about why I thought Koshi was killed? I had already had answered it and felt scummy how you did answer that post. Why do you think you are an easy target and the most lynchable person ever,. if that were the case don't you think you would have got more than 1 vote yesterday? In fact most people have not been interested in pursuing you as a lynch all game, that basically demonstrates to me you are not the most lynchable person in TL mafia ever.
Because I get lynched a lot as town mostly on Day 1 and Day 2 because people find my playstyle as town as scummy which is why I am considered one of the most lynchable people in TL Mafia. I will be honest though I am surprised I wasn't even lynched as well as not being modkilled(which I did post about the modkilled part) because I was absent for so long.
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On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical?
If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him.
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Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives.
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On May 29 2023 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives. The problem is, I read slam and Chez both as town, I know I am town, so in a world in which you are town, I want to kind of see if I can agree with any of your thought processes or reads, and see if we can read the game in a way that makes sense together.
I making this assumption in which you also do flip town along with Chez and Slam just for this: Team would be Marv and TTT by PoE mostly because I think Rayn is town because he didn't trappy play Day 1 like he did in XXX along with how he been posting and playing seems like normal town Rayn. dmb I don't see how she could ever be mafia with VE given what I posted about it earlier. I know my own alignment as town and by PoE it would be them in that case.
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On May 29 2023 10:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical? If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him. You think marv and I could be mafia together?
Can be mafia together but mostly out independent of each other mind you when I made that post.
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DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team?
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On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team? Yep. Marv and DMB.
Reason for DMB?
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Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him.
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On May 29 2023 11:04 TankTopTiger wrote:
Am i wrong in thinking that connecto-cases this early tend to be bad?
Like, we only have VE, who played knowing there was a good chance he goes down early. He leaned into getting lynched. Trying to name the entire team before we unburrow a non-throwaway mafia seems like putting the cart before the horse.
What does PoE mean again?
Process of Elimination
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On May 29 2023 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:55 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:50 LightningStrike wrote:
DP if I flip town (Which I know I will) Can you name your mafia team? Yep. Marv and DMB. Reason for DMB? Associations with Marv and VE pretty much. Plus her day one shit that made no sense. I can see Scum!VE flying in there to save her and then telling her to bus him so that it makes life easier on her. And then the fact she talked about marvs feared scum game, I think rayn is right and that could be from marv and VE flexing with a newbie in the scum QT. That and POE, I have town reads on the rest.
I can see where you coming from like ya it could be seen that way but I don't think so though unless you think VE would coach her to do that kind of stuff towards him?
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On May 29 2023 11:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:gg gl everyone it was nice to play with you all
GG Sorry I wasn't around at all for Day 2 due to irl stuff
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On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good"
Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Yes I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then?
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On May 29 2023 11:17 Alakaslam wrote:
The things that implicate you are constant lurking + list post from hell
I know that isn't much but in this particular game that is enough, combined with the gut read of Rayn
Let's see I was pretty much absent all of Day 2 because of irl stuff which I posted. I not constantly lurking at all just replying to stuff and asking questions Night 2 and atm.
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On May 29 2023 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good" Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Y es I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then? My god this is bad. Is Koshi not a good player? Look how easy it is do even a smiple NK anallysis of this Koshi suspected Marv during day 1 Died Night 1 Rayn suspected Marv during day 2 Died Night 2. Marv is generally a legit monster town player why did he not die night 1. Like, I don't even.....
Koshi in general doesn't die Night 1 over Rayn at least from what I remembered when both are town heck he flips his reads a bit more than Rayn does in general. Marv not dying Night 1 could set him up as a possible lynch or him being wrong? I guess idk man it's WIFOM. Maybe Rayn and Koshi were right and I was wrong about Marv?
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On May 29 2023 11:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:17 Alakaslam wrote:
The things that implicate you are constant lurking + list post from hell
I know that isn't much but in this particular game that is enough, combined with the gut read of Rayn Let's see I was pretty much absent all of Day 2 because of irl stuff which I posted. I not constantly lurking at all just replying to stuff and asking questions Night 2 and atm. Actually you did nothing much at all, your actions and your displayed emotions don;t mesh together and you start to be active as soon as you start to seriously get called out for it...
As if I can control my real life stuff........ Heck I did ask Grack if I could be replaced or modkilled incase I couldn't comeback to the game in the allotted time.
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On May 29 2023 11:31 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:On May 29 2023 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Well that NK point towards me.... At least I was right about my read on him. Why? I am not seeing how this NK implicates anyone, Rayn was so town it hurts and is the only one of us who has managed to actually catch scum Like the team would then just let him live? Pure WIFOM to think anything is implied by this NK other than "raynpelikoneet good" Let's see in his last will he did say to lynch me today. Y es I do know he is a good player but why did he not get killed Night 1 then? My god this is bad. Is Koshi not a good player? Look how easy it is do even a smiple NK anallysis of this Koshi suspected Marv during day 1 Died Night 1 Rayn suspected Marv during day 2 Died Night 2. Marv is generally a legit monster town player why did he not die night 1. Like, I don't even..... Koshi in general doesn't die Night 1 over Rayn at least from what I remembered when both are town heck he flips his reads a bit more than Rayn does in general. Marv not dying Night 1 could set him up as a possible lynch or him being wrong? I guess idk man it's WIFOM. Maybe Rayn and Koshi were right and I was wrong about Marv? Yes I know its WIFOM but you brought it up. I already stated ITT that I don't like to do NK analysis. I have fucked up multiple towns by not killing the obvious NK. Im just trying to point out how bad and pointless that statement was.
Ya I will admit it being bad but hey it generated some discussion so not entirely pointless.
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On May 29 2023 11:35 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS you've had real life stuff, but that doesn't mean you have done stuff in this game. From the reader's perspective you are just a non-contributing player one way or another. You can't win on that front so don't bother arguing it.
I know and I am trying to contribute now that I can play.
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On May 29 2023 11:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:35 TankTopTiger wrote:
LS you've had real life stuff, but that doesn't mean you have done stuff in this game. From the reader's perspective you are just a non-contributing player one way or another. You can't win on that front so don't bother arguing it. I know and I am trying to contribute now that I can play. You have a 4 page filter, TTT has a four page filter. TTT has caught scum and is a hard town read for almost everyone LS is a ? at best and scum at worst. Its not just your level of activity that is determining peoples read on you.
I know but it was partly why people said I was mafia though. I am just trying to solve game though atm just finding it difficult though atm.
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On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.
If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you.
Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though.
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On May 29 2023 11:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.
If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you. Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though. Generally it feels worse when you are mafia.
Dude I hate being under pressure as either alignment even more so as town because I still get lynched for stupid shit in games. Hell I even ragequit once as town Day 1 so I could get lynched by town Holyflare to spite him and the town.
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On May 29 2023 11:53 Chezinu wrote:I have the blessing of rayn and VE. People saying I'm more useful than others and I'm not up for lynch. Unlike DP, I play for survival. You guys have fun. I'm going to eat my popcorn. 
More importantly how do you read yourself?
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On May 29 2023 11:56 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 11:53 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 11:44 TankTopTiger wrote:
FWIW LS I haven't even read the vast majority of your posts and your back and forths etc. You seem to constantly think you're under insane pressure but the only pressure I see on you is DP gently asking you questions, as if to gather the information for a potential future case.
If I were to guess, I'd say you probably see day 4 and if you don't there's not much you can do about it given your limited contribution. So plan around having a solid position that can be appraised day 4, so that (assuming you're town), you give us a solid chance not to mislynch you. Will do my best but it definitely felt like a lot of pressure though. Generally it feels worse when you are mafia. Dude I hate being under pressure as either alignment even more so as town because I still get lynched for stupid shit in games. Hell I even ragequit once as town Day 1 so I could get lynched by town Holyflare to spite him and the town.
Game for reference: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=LightningStrike
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On May 29 2023 11:59 Chezinu wrote:
Lightning stop trying to get my seal. You won't get it unless there is a chance I'll get lynch greater than 95%.
Alrighty! To change the topic a bit how you reading Slam at the moment?
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Just woke up and Marv gave up I don't know how to feel about that to be honest. Also dmb ninja voted Marv too. Hmmm
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On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.
If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud.
This appeal to emotion is just to strong for me. If he is mafia he wouldn't of appealed to me this hard over others.
## Vote: DarthPunk
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On May 30 2023 04:10 marvellosity wrote:
I already used the post that I quoted there in my post. Which youd realise if you read my post and digested its contents and thought about it.
Instead both LS and DP conspicuously don’t talk about the content at all. Fascinating!
I did read it I had a different reason why I was townreading her which was her man of her vote towards VE and VE keep townreading.
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at least in reads to dmb. I know my own alignment so ya I just ignored that part of your post.
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On May 30 2023 04:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2023 04:35 DarthPunk wrote:On May 30 2023 04:31 Alakaslam wrote:On May 30 2023 04:20 LightningStrike wrote:On May 30 2023 03:29 marvellosity wrote:
LightningStrike, if you are town you need to vote with me and lynch DP.
If not, then I will flip town, DP will get lynched and flip mafia, then you will get lynched. Your choice bud. This appeal to emotion is just to strong for me. If he is mafia he wouldn't of appealed to me this hard over others. ## Vote: DarthPunk I can't vote with my strongest SR ##Vote swapWe should be lynching that though, IMO You are amazing!!!! They are both confirmed mafia to me at this point, so either lynch is good, its just going to be really hard to lynch marv later, cause we only need one townie not on that wagon and we lose, and, as you saw, marv is really convincing. Really convincing because it’s genuine. That’s why you think it’s really convincing Town, are you seeing all this? Slam, LS is most likely just bussing to get a reaction from you. If you don’t see that then not a lot I can do. If DP and LS are mafia together I backed them into a corner and they need to make a plan, which probably isn’t LS hard defending DP.
Well I'm not mafia so I am not bussing?
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On May 30 2023 12:04 TankTopTiger wrote:
@LightningStrike
Waaay too early in the game, you gave Marv a town read for not folding to DP's D1 pressure. You are aware of Marv's "fold as scum" meta.
But right now, Marv has folded, and your vote is on DP.
Explain.
He would of folded Day 1 as mafia hell he did fold as Town Day 2 under a lot pressure in this game:
tl.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia?user=marvellosity
Plus he was using Appeal to Emotion towards me today which I don't ever recall him doing as mafia.
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TTT let me know if you read the game that i just linked regarding Marv.
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On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote:
You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?
Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.
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On May 30 2023 13:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay but he's not try-harding. He didn't get lynched D1 because he had Koshi and Rayn handing grapes up to him as he presided over the peasants from within his palanquin. Why would he ever have folded in your mind if the two strongest, most townest players were saying "Marv is vetted" and "MZ's case on Marv is REALLY bad", both things that these skilled confirmed town players later took back.
Why would he fold under non-existent pressure, and more importantly, why would you think he would?
Marv really doesn't like being pressured just like me hence why he falls over as mafia (he was pressured by Darth) hell in the town game i linked he was pressured enough for him to just give up as town despite having a solid Day 1 with how limited his time was. But overall he did tryhard a bit (at least from way of thinking of tryhard where he did post questions and giving his opinions out there for others and engaging with others)
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On May 30 2023 13:30 TankTopTiger wrote:But here's the clincher LS, you already admitted this is not your read. Not once but twice since day 1 you have said you were willing to consider Marv as scum. Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:21 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:15 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:05 LightningStrike wrote:
I mean it's to much as there was 2 people but still point stand it was still RNG'd just towards VIvax over MZ. Its not RNG though, he is asking who he should vote for? We all read that right? so then we are going to be racing to start a post with our preffered lynch, Which is what slam did, Is none of this changing your mind? If Slam and Chez flipped town right now who is the final mafia? To be fair he did say Even character be Vivax Odd be MZ in his very next post but regardless. If Slam and Chez flipped ( I had them nulls but Chez thing was a misread overall and had him town before hand but want to confirm his alignment for the rest of the town) town I will have to do an entire evaluation of the entire game from scratch which I had done before as town. OK but can you re-evaluate now as a hypothetical? If I really had to use a gun to point at my head and assume both flipping town right at this very second maybe Marv, and you? But mostly because I would have to accept my read on Marv is wrong but I am pretty sure I can read him. Show nested quote +On May 29 2023 10:44 LightningStrike wrote:On May 29 2023 10:30 DarthPunk wrote:On May 29 2023 10:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Unless you want me to just do an entire revaluation right now based i can try right now but that i had going into the filter dives. The problem is, I read slam and Chez both as town, I know I am town, so in a world in which you are town, I want to kind of see if I can agree with any of your thought processes or reads, and see if we can read the game in a way that makes sense together. I making this assumption in which you also do flip town along with Chez and Slam just for this: Team would be Marv and TTT by PoE mostly because I think Rayn is town because he didn't trappy play Day 1 like he did in XXX along with how he been posting and playing seems like normal town Rayn. dmb I don't see how she could ever be mafia with VE given what I posted about it earlier. I know my own alignment as town and by PoE it would be them in that case. If your read was "if Marv folds D1 scum, else: town". Why would you twice say you would be willing to consider Marv as mafia after D1. Furthermore, why would you only say this up until the point he folds, then refuse to vote for him?
Ok the first one Darth had asked me for a team if Chez and Slam are town (Because I had Slam and Chez null at the time.) and only had Marv because if you looked at what I posted earlier on my reads and stuff i had posted later: dmb being town because of her stuff with VE and VE with her I couldn't imagine as a scenrio where mafia dmb would do that stuff with him I had you as town along with Rayn and so I had in PoE and gotten Marv and Darth. The second one i took into consideration if Darth was town Marv would of had to been Mafia with you for the same reasons for the most part being it was PoE for you being mafia. Today: He is using appeal to emotion towards me trying to have me lynch Darth with him to save him which convinced me to vote Darth because no one ever asks me to vote for someone using Appeal to Emotion and he been much nicer to me than Darth.
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Anyways off to bed it's getting late.
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Just woke up after my body decided to wake myself very early -.-
On May 30 2023 14:43 DarthPunk wrote:In really small Marv literally does appeal to emotion as mafia. So idk wtf you are talking about
I just checked this out and yep he did and even had a lot of votes on him at the time (6 Total) ugh the feels idk what to think anymore about his appeal to emotion towards me :|
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On May 31 2023 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
I just clicked on my filter in that game and I basically didn't play at all, there's no comparison. I probably made the appeal to emotion because I literally wasn't playing the game. No-one can argue I haven't played this one...
I can at least confirm this from reading your filter there.
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Will make this easier for town since I do townread Marv and he is a better player than me.
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This was a fun game I wish things played out a bit better for us as mafia but overall it was a very close game!
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