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[M][N] H O L Y F * * * E mafia!!

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 15:18:58
May 21 2016 20:13 GMT
#1
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Please read the entire thread before signing up. Thank you.


* My cohost(s) are Fecalfeast and Artanis. All night actions must be sent to all of us.
*There are no coaches in this game.

H O L Y F * * * E mafia game!!




+ Show Spoiler [Players & Filters] +

1. Holyflare 1-shot Framer lynched D1.
2. Damdred
3. ritoky replaced by Vivax
4. Rels
5. LightningStrike
6. Koshi VT killed N1.
7. Palmar
8. marvellosity 2-shot tracker lynched D2.
9. justanothertownie VT killed N2.
10. sicklucker
11. Superbia Godfather lynched D3.
12. Tumblewood
13. nnn_thekushmountains

+ Show Spoiler [Flips] +

Holyflare the 1-shot Framer lynched D1.
Koshi the VT killed N1.
Marvellosity the 2-shot tracker lynched D2.
justanothertownie the VT killed N2.
Superbia the Godfather lynched D3.

Vivax the last mafia concedes N3.

+ Show Spoiler [Important posts] +

Day 1
Night 1
Day 2
Night 2
Day 3





The Rules

The rules for this game are drawn from BH's model OP here: (link). Read them.


Supplemental Rules

In addition to the rules outlined in the Model OP, some changes / clarifications.

1. Night Length: Nights will last 24 hours, and you may speak at night.
2. Day Length: Each day lasts 48 hours.
3. Lynch Type: At the end of the day, the player with the most votes on him or her is lynched (plurality lynch). In the even of a tie, the person who was most recently ahead in votes is lynched.
4. Rules regarding voting:
- Voting is done in this thread.
- Voting for no lynch is a legitmate vote.
- Voting for yourself is allowed.
- I will be using the votecounter tool so format your votes properly. Correct format is either ##vote: playername or ##vote playername. The votecounter tool might allow some typos in playernames, and whatever it allows, i will allow too. If you can't possibly be able to write (or copypaste) "##vote raynpelikoneet instead of ##vote rayn or cba enough to check the playername or your typing properly you can not blame me if your vote does not count.
- Votes on :59 do count, votes on :00 do not.
- Not casting a vote during a dayphase does result in an immediate modkill. No warnings. In other words, if you can't care enough to do the most important thing in a mafia game, don't bother playing.
5. Activity: You must vote every dayphase. You must post at least once every nightphase. Other than that there are no activity requirements.
6. Deadline: The Lynch Deadline will be at 22:00 GMT (+00:00),
* If for some reason me or my cohost(s) are not able to post the day/night post right at the deadline, please stop talking and do not post into the thread before the day/night post is made.
7. Behavior: I will warn you if i think you are crossing the line or are about to. Please try not to. You know what happens after warning if you don't take the advice.
8. Replacements: This game doesn't use replacements unless it is a specific emergency situation. Being modkilled or just disappearing in itself is not a reason to replace someone.
9. Questions: Asking questions in the thread after game start is not allowed, any questions can be directed to the host or co-host. If I think it important enough I will address the game. Talking about PMs between any player and a host/ co-host will be dealt case-by case basis, most likely resulting in a modkill. If you are not sure if you are allowed to talk about something, ask me instead of posting in thread.

Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. I stole most of the OP from Damdred (so... from Artanis ) so thank them. Thank you everyone who plays in our games we appreciate it!

I am open to questions any time. If something doesn't make sense, please ask.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-26 22:09:16
May 21 2016 20:13 GMT
#2
Playerlist (will be added to OP):
1. Holyflare
2. Damdred
3. ritoky replaced by Vivax
4. Rels
5. LightningStrike
6. Koshi
7. Palmar
8. marvellosity
9. justanothertownie
10. sicklucker
11. Superbia
12. Tumblewood
13. nnn_thekushmountains

Obs:
scott31337
Shapelog
disformation

Sitouts:
-




Setup:

- The game will last at most 20 irl-days. That means, if town has not killed all mafia by the end of Day 7, mafia wins the game.

- This is a 13 player game with 10 town players and 3 mafia.
- Semi-open setup with following possible roles:

Cop
Parity-cop
Doctor
Jailkeeper
Roleblocker
Tracker
Vigilante
Named VT

Wanderer
(visits a random person (outside themselves) during the night, is unaware and receives a VT pm)
Miller
(all millers are unaware and receive a VT pm)
VT
Godfather
Vigilante
Roleblocker
Framer
Lawyer
(Framer who can only frame a mafia member to be treated as town in cop checks for the nightphase)
Mafia Goon (vanilla scum)

Any and every role can be either 1-shot, 2-shot so on so on. If it is not specified how many shots you have, you are allowed to use your role's ability every night. There may or may not be duplicates of any roles listed above.

If a rb/JK + rb/JK target each other both of their actions go through on each other assuming there is not a third block (JK still also protects) and also show to a tracker. Meaning:
- rb!A and rb!B target each other. Both of them are roleblocked. Both of them show to a possible tracker as visiting each other.
- If there is a rb!C who in the above scenario blocks rb!A, A's block on B will not go through (if B is also delivering the mafia night kill it will go through, which would not be the case in the above scenario).

Roleblocks are not notified unless necessary. If a parity-cop gets any of their checks blocked they will be notified of their check not going through. Roleblocking a wanderer prevents them from visiting that night.

Actions that are roleblocked are not refunded.


- The total number of town/mafia power roles (or the setup) is not known for either faction. The setup (roles) are not fully randomized because i don't think you can balance a game like that, there may or may not be mindfuckery like having a GF without a cop etc..
- Mafia KP is delivered and can be blocked by any blocking role.
- Any mafia player is allowed to use their role the same night they deliver a night kill if they choose so.
- Mafia is allowed to kill noone. For clarification; i will look at the last PM sent to the hosts or the last kill target + person delivering the kill from mafia QT and that is what mafia will do. If mafia fails to send in a night kill target or a person who will deliver the night kill, that will be considered a no-kill. Same goes to possible mafia powerroles.
- Possible mafia role actions can be sent by any member of the said faction.
- I will 100% random every player's role and faction. Noone is given a blue role or a certain faction for any reason except for rng. If you can't deal with this, don't play.

I will add stuff if / when something comes up.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 21 2016 20:13 GMT
#3
res2
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
May 21 2016 20:20 GMT
#4
/replace
I should be back in town when this starts - we'll see though
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 21 2016 20:45 GMT
#5
/in

You should let people do other people's actions as mafia if they give permission. Too much stupidity and inference from timezones if someone claims while mafia is asleep etc and not worth being able to speculate in game about.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 21 2016 20:47 GMT
#6
/in
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 21:06:47
May 21 2016 20:49 GMT
#7
On May 22 2016 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
/in

You should let people do other people's actions as mafia if they give permission. Too much stupidity and inference from timezones if someone claims while mafia is asleep etc and not worth being able to speculate in game about.

Fair enough, i agree with this.

Edit: Updated the second post for this.

Edit 2: In case of this, i still want the player holding the role to specify someone else who will make the action. This exception to the rule is not to make it so that during every night for example a mafia framer says "well whoever wants to, make a decision depending on my role use". The person specified is then RESPONSIBLE for using the role, if for example Holyflare gives me a permission to decide the target of his frame ability and i fail to do so, then the ability doesn't go through regardless of what Holyflare says after that. I want to promote activity and if this is not done this way it doesn't change anything, it just makes things harder and more complicated.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 21 2016 20:53 GMT
#8
/in
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 21 2016 21:06 GMT
#9
/in
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 21 2016 21:12 GMT
#10
/in
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
May 21 2016 21:20 GMT
#11
Game starts as soon as all the spots are filled. At last next deadline time + 24 hours (probably just next DL time).
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 22:20:31
May 21 2016 22:19 GMT
#12
On May 22 2016 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2016 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
/in

You should let people do other people's actions as mafia if they give permission. Too much stupidity and inference from timezones if someone claims while mafia is asleep etc and not worth being able to speculate in game about.

Fair enough, i agree with this.

Edit: Updated the second post for this.

Edit 2: In case of this, i still want the player holding the role to specify someone else who will make the action. This exception to the rule is not to make it so that during every night for example a mafia framer says "well whoever wants to, make a decision depending on my role use". The person specified is then RESPONSIBLE for using the role, if for example Holyflare gives me a permission to decide the target of his frame ability and i fail to do so, then the ability doesn't go through regardless of what Holyflare says after that. I want to promote activity and if this is not done this way it doesn't change anything, it just makes things harder and more complicated.


Seems needless to not let the person come back and make the decision if the person he delegates is afk.

Say I give my power to ritoky but ritoky trips over a baby toy and becomes incapacitated and sends me pm spam so I wake up, I'm then not allowed to use my own power?

Surely I'm promoting activity at this point?




Regardless, I still think this activity shenanigan is pointless and it should just be the normal rule where anyone can send your power in whenever but it's your game so do what you want.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 23:27:02
May 21 2016 22:45 GMT
#13
On May 22 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Regardless, I still think this activity shenanigan is pointless and it should just be the normal rule where anyone can send your power in whenever but it's your game so do what you want.

From what i know in some games recently people have not even known what the actions of their teammates (or their own lol) are. idk, if i don't make any "restrictions" to role use, i don't see how it makes any difference except for making it more complicated (without any wanted benefits/changes).

If people really really want i can stick to the "whoever does whatever with whoever's role in mafia QT". If this is the case then i am also going to require everyone to post during a night phase at least once too because i don't see it to be fair to people that a mafia power role can play "optimally" while not giving fucks about the game for 24 hours while a town role cannot (because it results in them not sending in an action at all).

Say I give my power to ritoky but ritoky trips over a baby toy and becomes incapacitated and sends me pm spam so I wake up, I'm then not allowed to use my own power?

Well if you told me this is the case i would take your word for it... Like i am not saying you can't give the power use back to the actual role holder, i am just saying that the actual role holder should either use his role by himself or clearly point out a person who he allows to make the decision. Because the role is a personal role where one player (and not the whole faction) is applied to. In a same way if a townie thinks/knows he can't be present at the deadline he must use his role action earlier.

I just don't really understand why for example mafia!roleblocker as a player themselves doesn't have to be present at time X but town!roleblocker has to if something spectacular - that would change their actions - happens in thread. Sure the mafia faction is a team, so is town, and i don't understand how mafia knowing each other changes this in any way?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 21 2016 23:30 GMT
#14
/in
I had a good night of sleep.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 21 2016 23:35 GMT
#15
/cohost
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-22 08:09:06
May 22 2016 08:04 GMT
#16
Since when have people posted 0 posts at night? Obviously more activity rules the better. Of course mafia should have a team advantage too because they are a team that know each other which is kind of the point of the game.

It's just easier to let people do actions optimally than trying to fit your life to be around every part of the game. I mean it's not like it even affects me either lol since the deadline is ok (and you're rolling me town ).

Honestly it's a trivial detail and didn't really think it needed a change? If you want to promote activity just change minimum activity requirements.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 22 2016 08:46 GMT
#17
/in
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2016 10:28 GMT
#18
On May 22 2016 17:04 Holyflare wrote:
Since when have people posted 0 posts at night? Obviously more activity rules the better. Of course mafia should have a team advantage too because they are a team that know each other which is kind of the point of the game.

It's just easier to let people do actions optimally than trying to fit your life to be around every part of the game. I mean it's not like it even affects me either lol since the deadline is ok (and you're rolling me town ).

Honestly it's a trivial detail and didn't really think it needed a change? If you want to promote activity just change minimum activity requirements.

everyhing hf says everywhere

/in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
May 22 2016 10:46 GMT
#19
On May 22 2016 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2016 17:04 Holyflare wrote:
Since when have people posted 0 posts at night? Obviously more activity rules the better. Of course mafia should have a team advantage too because they are a team that know each other which is kind of the point of the game.

It's just easier to let people do actions optimally than trying to fit your life to be around every part of the game. I mean it's not like it even affects me either lol since the deadline is ok (and you're rolling me town ).

Honestly it's a trivial detail and didn't really think it needed a change? If you want to promote activity just change minimum activity requirements.

everyhing hf says everywhere

/in

Indeed.


I didn't plan to play again so soon but this playerlist is hard to resist.

/in
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 22 2016 11:54 GMT
#20
/in
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