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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 03 2016 07:15 GMT
#2421
Rayn, I appreciate the effort but it's really not worth to try and argue with SL. Everyone knows logic isn't exactly his biggest strength and he would rather claim that everything he ever said was to troll rather than to admit he was wrong anywhere.
Trying to argue logic with that guy is like fighting windmills.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 03 2016 08:11 GMT
#2422
On June 03 2016 16:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.

No shit :p

Vivax' too.


:D
Minimal effort.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2016 09:28 GMT
#2423
On June 03 2016 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I lost my interest in writing anything else about this game.
gg well played town.

)=
I would have liked an independant analysis because thinking more about this game, almost every read I made was based on meta. For example, Damdred & ritoky both ninja voted HF at the last moment D1, but Damdred's vote was townie and ritoky's vote was scummy because of meta. Objectively it was the same action but in my mind it meant different things.
Superbia and ritoky were super scummy in my mind mainly because of meta.
Palmar SL and LS were not objectively super townie, but they were very likely town in my mind because of meta.
So I would have loved an analysis about things done this game without meta.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 03 2016 09:55 GMT
#2424
On June 03 2016 18:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I lost my interest in writing anything else about this game.
gg well played town.

)=
I would have liked an independant analysis because thinking more about this game, almost every read I made was based on meta. For example, Damdred & ritoky both ninja voted HF at the last moment D1, but Damdred's vote was townie and ritoky's vote was scummy because of meta. Objectively it was the same action but in my mind it meant different things.
Superbia and ritoky were super scummy in my mind mainly because of meta.
Palmar SL and LS were not objectively super townie, but they were very likely town in my mind because of meta.
So I would have loved an analysis about things done this game without meta.

Well, meta is awesome.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 03 2016 10:19 GMT
#2425
My analysis:
People with the shortest filters got lynched. Exception being Superbia who simply never recovered from a bad start. Posted a lot but due to the lack of substance it didn't really help.

Also LS MVP. Kept the attention onto Superbia when people were looking in lots of different places.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 03 2016 11:01 GMT
#2426
On June 03 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
My analysis:
People with the shortest filters got lynched.
Exception being Superbia who simply never recovered from a bad start. Posted a lot but due to the lack of substance it didn't really help.

Also LS MVP. Kept the attention onto Superbia when people were looking in lots of different places.

wat
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 03 2016 11:06 GMT
#2427
Literally not true for any lynch that happened this game. Not even for marv.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 03 2016 11:09 GMT
#2428
Yeah hf had the biggest filter d1 I think, and superbia couldn't be super far from it. I would bet they had 5 and 3 pages filter d1
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 03 2016 11:26 GMT
#2429
There were plenty of non-meta reasons given for the lynches of all the mafia by various people, so if you want analysis then go read those

e.g. my mafia meta on ritoky is that he's super aggressive, but he didn't play like that this game at all and i still scumread him - pretty looking posts/cases but with no drive behind them, not doing anything with them
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 03 2016 11:30 GMT
#2430
Vivax was mafia for similar reasons. I talked a lot about the way he entered during the game. Yes, it was also scummy for meta reasons but it was mafia indicative without that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 03 2016 11:32 GMT
#2431
On June 03 2016 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Literally not true for any lynch that happened this game. Not even for marv.

Obviously true postgame since they died and couldn't post anymore!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 03 2016 11:37 GMT
#2432
On June 03 2016 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Vivax was mafia for similar reasons. I talked a lot about the way he entered during the game. Yes, it was also scummy for meta reasons but it was mafia indicative without that.

indeed. made the vivax townreads quite baffling.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2016 17:06 GMT
#2433
On June 03 2016 16:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn, I appreciate the effort but it's really not worth to try and argue with SL. Everyone knows logic isn't exactly his biggest strength and he would rather claim that everything he ever said was to troll rather than to admit he was wrong anywhere.
Trying to argue logic with that guy is like fighting windmills.


ROFLMAO
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 03 2016 17:12 GMT
#2434
On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.


but you had no chance of winning. If you said this for vivax maybe I could understand but you choose the nk and got vivax into an unwinnable spot. Me and Ls and others wanted to kill you as bad if not more then jat we just were not as loud about it I afk voted you the next day... I gave a 95% scum read certainty day 1. You put vivax in a spot vs 6 confirmed towns where he had to concede.

YOu were always getting nked the next day no matter who you nked all you did was put your partner who was your only hope in an unwinnable spot by not killing a guy who would probably be considered a confirmed town who could confirm someone else (tumble) did not deliver kp
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-03 17:21:17
June 03 2016 17:15 GMT
#2435
And lets be real jat learned how to read you last game where I caught you. DOnt know why jat gets all the credit here when I had you in every scum team I posted all game and caught you in both. Jat learned how to catch you for the reasons you were caught last game as well as everyone else.

Only on tl.mafia would I call super confirmed mafia in the first 8 hours of two games and have the entire thread arguing I had no reason for his lynch twice/bus etc all game
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
June 03 2016 18:44 GMT
#2436
On June 04 2016 02:15 sicklucker wrote:
And lets be real jat learned how to read you last game where I caught you. DOnt know why jat gets all the credit here when I had you in every scum team I posted all game and caught you in both. Jat learned how to catch you for the reasons you were caught last game as well as everyone else.

Only on tl.mafia would I call super confirmed mafia in the first 8 hours of two games and have the entire thread arguing I had no reason for his lynch twice/bus etc all game

I correctly scumread superbia for the reasons I used in this game before you even started playing on TL mafia bro. There is a reason I brought up old games repeatedly.

So delusional.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 03 2016 18:48 GMT
#2437
On June 04 2016 02:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2016 16:02 Superbia wrote:
JAT needed to die bc his death increased my odds of survival the most btw.


but you had no chance of winning. If you said this for vivax maybe I could understand but you choose the nk and got vivax into an unwinnable spot. Me and Ls and others wanted to kill you as bad if not more then jat we just were not as loud about it I afk voted you the next day... I gave a 95% scum read certainty day 1. You put vivax in a spot vs 6 confirmed towns where he had to concede.

YOu were always getting nked the next day no matter who you nked all you did was put your partner who was your only hope in an unwinnable spot by not killing a guy who would probably be considered a confirmed town who could confirm someone else (tumble) did not deliver kp


I disagree. Vivax was not in a good spot. Ritoky was generally scumread and his entrance really wasn't that strong.

I needed to get copchecked. Once the parity got two towns together I needed to never flip because then they're both essentially hard confirmed.
Minimal effort.
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