TL Endures Mafia

On May 23 2023 23:36 Koshi wrote:
Hi LightningStrike! Long time no see. Good to have you in this game.

On May 23 2023 23:37 Koshi wrote:

Mafia Vivax is not scary at all.

On May 23 2023 23:49 Koshi wrote:

Life is good.
How are you? I remember a hospital visit back in 2020? 🤔

On May 24 2023 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
Also LS, always a pleasure

On May 24 2023 00:21 Vivax wrote:


Hey LS !
Doing okayish at the moment, thanks.

Sometimes I get bored of being in discord with rayn and doing drinking games and I poke in here again.

On May 24 2023 00:36 Vivax wrote:


Nothing in particular.

You come across as townie tone-wise, that‘s about it for new stuff.

Slam I couldn‘t read either way.

On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend.

I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread.

Vivax has been unimpressive so far
DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread.
Marv has been almost useless.

I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention.

On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not sure I'll ever get used to being able to read the whole thread over the course of one cigarette. Not sure if good thing or bad thing, I guess we'll find out come D2 or 3.

1) [UoN]Sentinel
2) Alakaslam
3) Chezinu
4) Vivax
5) LightningStrike
6) DarthPunk
7) Onegu
8) Koshi
9) die_meatbaby
10) raynpelikoneet
11) Meapak_Ziphh
12) marvellosity
13) VisceraEyes

I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which and I don't want to lynch either today. I'm leaning toward DP being the maf based on interactions with not-marv.

I think mayor today should be DMB. The discord stuff is about Viv and rayn right? I disagree with his reasoning, but it feels SOOOOOOOO townie, like...newer mafia would be scared to even MENTION Discord right? IDK meta is meta but I'd follow meat anywhere this phase. Including (ugh) onto one of my townreads.

MZ town for wanting to townread me. That's a town thing to want. I have a lot of townreads, so I think there's at least 1, maybe 2 mafia in the lurking class. I think a D1 lurker lynch is in order, my vote will reflect that.

On May 24 2023 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

I don't think so at all, the MB discussion provided plenty of opportunities for people to come up with reads (again I'm in the "slight town" category) but Marv just danced around and asked questions rather than provide reads. So yes, the conversation was productive and Marv was also a useless part of it.

On May 24 2023 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Lightning Strike you also asked about vivax, don't have much on that right now other than vibes but if he posts a little more I'll be able to come to a more concrete conclusion.

On May 24 2023 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
Rayn what do you make of MZ’s case on me?

I am heavily biased, naturally.

On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:

Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

On May 24 2023 10:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Catch up post:



You don't think it is possible that scum!marv would be able to post under pressure. I also remember Marv just folding as scum a few times back in the day, but I always considered that a symptom of burnout more than anything else because I also recall some monster scum games from him.

Is there any other reason that marv looks town to you?




I don't like this because it feels like it is a gross simplification of what actually happened and ignores a lot of the nuance. I feel like I have been fairly open with my thought processes and ideas as they have changed, so I am unsure how this is genuinely where you could land in your analysis.



lol. Its a trauma response.






I don't think this is helpful. I would rather see some empathetic engagement and give her some space to do other things.



I am really struggling with posts like this in this game. I get the need to flex and what have you but don't you think making your reads and reasoning clear for others is an important part of town play?

I just want people to share a clear position with shared reasoning and then have that either stand up to scrutiny or not.

Otherwise I will just keep asking apparently stupid questions.

Such as: what read is this? why is it so obvious?



What post are you referring to?

This is really unhelpful, i'd love to be able to understand your thought processes but I just can't without enough information.



What makes vivax seem pretty townie to you?



I hate this.



I really don't like this post VE. first of all, we have similar reasons to read DMB as town, and you have a really strong town read on her, generally when people say things that I agree with I lean toward them being town, not mafia.

Secondly I don't understand why if you think one of Marv or myself is mafia that you would not want to lynch one of us.





Also this.

@VE was that hyperbole or would you actually just vote whoever meat baby decides?




Do you think it is more likely that mafia or town would seem indecisive? I think it would have been fairly straightforward for scum!marv to have called me mafia based on my weak posts, instead he said he didn't know and seems orientated toward information gathering which is a pretty townie place to be day one. ( representing genuine inquisitiveness is hard to fake)



@Marv: is this the kind of nonsense you referred to VE starting out with?



I don't agree with this, at least at the start of the game. Later on it is fair enough to expect people to take positions, but generating information from others is super important also.



Meh that is the normal reaction to that post if you are experienced.



True. Lol.



I think they are both town but still don't agree that this is very strong FWIW.





Would you please answer the question I asked you earlier?




:D










I really like this from Koshi, I thought the tunnel was getting unproductive so giving space and trying to engage with meat baby is really positive. Koshi strong strong town read.




Why is Lightning Strike town??



Like who?



What?...

Please explain this.



Not sitting in his ass, he is just making sense.



Disagree.



I like this post, just don't really get the lightning strike read. Thanks for actually sharing your thought processes.

I have caught up now.

I think Koshi is pretty town.

Marv and Rayn and MZ town but less clear than Koshi

Meat baby - While I think my initial reaction was not incorrect, I don't like that she didn't answer my questions to try and draw out more information about her rayn read, and I really think her chez read makes no sense as a townie. If you are making genuine reads or analysing the game at all then how is Chez town? Worries me that it was clearly not genuine, so what else is not genuine?

If she had just said "no idea" that would be infinitely more reasonable right, especially cause she said that about someone else who had actually posted. Just complete wtf?! moment that is not consistent from what I would expect from newbie townie.

On May 24 2023 20:38 Chezinu wrote:

The game starting last year threw me off. I was focused on the 23rd, which was last night, which would have made it Tuesday (yesterday) if it was 2023.

On May 25 2023 04:23 Vivax wrote:
I wasn't aware DMB knew my mafia meta.

It's quite simple, really. As town I'll run you an ironman, while as mafia I could tops do 1/10th of a marathon cause I'm mostly addicted to guessing things and I don't get that as mafia. You could have just asked tho.

##Unvote
##Vote Chezinu

Here's your cake. The cake is a lie.

On May 25 2023 06:00 Vivax wrote:


Do you mind if I postpone it to next day? Also I‘d rather do it with flip info.
I just want to have a plausible wagon before I detach from the game for a while.

@LS

The only reason I could see for Chez scum is that he ignored Koshi. Otherwise no particular reason other than me trying to vote with my TRs

On May 24 2023 22:16 Chezinu wrote:

That only applies to new players

On May 25 2023 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote:

To be fair marv isn't doing MUCH in the way of defending himself when people calling him maf this game, so not sure why that's relevant.

The meat train is....not for me. It shouldn't be for you either. I recommend Vivax if your vote is like...up for grabs or whatever.

On May 25 2023 06:03 Vivax wrote:


Marv had trouble in handling SRs on him without exploding. But I think that applied to a lot of us gamers.
I think the paranoia on him got so annoying that he stopped fighting, doesn‘t mean he didn‘t fight for a good portion of his history and could do it again.

On May 25 2023 06:07 Onegu wrote:
Also thanks LS for sending me a message on discord like I asked. So who all is in this game? Hrmm maybe its possible for me to be interested in reading... But how the fuck are there 45 pages already isnt this day 1? Like I know there are spammers here but Holyflare and rsoultin arent in this game what the hell.

On May 25 2023 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This is really out of place. Why would you ask your town read what his read on your other town read is in this situation?