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On August 09 2020 23:46 LightningStrike wrote: Yo Vivax how you been? Any current thoughts on the game if you happened to had read the game at this point? This seems townie, holden feels townie too. Not much else. I've been well but I'm rekt today. | ||
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On August 10 2020 08:17 Fecalfeast wrote: see if you weren't LS this would read scummy to me but I for you this seems totally normal Why bother to post about this tho? Also seems like a NAI thing to me. I'm a bit unhappy with the way you justified not having a read on LS. Not sure if I find it believable, you know him too, at least try. This post just looks like you did the opposite of what you said you should be doing in the previous one. | ||
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On August 10 2020 13:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: Alright, so based off current game, I think Mr cheesecake is 100 town. If I had to vote some one other than Vivax it would be Trfel just cause of his “I’m mafia” post. It’s really easy to claim it as mafia and get away with it D1 since most people wouldn’t want to believe it as this thread has shown. HoldenGolden currently seems a bit forced, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt for now. Trfel should be null at most, I believe Holdens antics-y posts come from town. You can see he tried to style up his entrance, in a way. Sort of hard to keep up that enthusiasm as mafia for most so it's more on the town side for me. | ||
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On August 09 2020 11:10 HoldenGolden wrote: Confirm mafia. EZ game. Buddy attempt plus universal greeting. You seem like a nice guy though. I'll give you a second chance to write a better buddy attempt. I want to be razzle-dazzled. Convince me to push your agenda through a well, passionate slice of virtual red-eye steak. | ||
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Holden do you currently have a scumread? | ||
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On August 11 2020 04:21 Trfel wrote: Terrible Takes by Trfel Town Lean LightningStrike + Show Spoiler + Mostly a gut read, but two more reasons. First, he's made the most posts in the thread so far, which (much) more often than not makes someone town, especially in a low-activity game like this. And second, his worry about the lack of activity in the game feels genuine. It's not a very strong read, but I'd bet on it if I had to. Mr. Cheesecake + Show Spoiler + I still feel a bit bugged by how he played earlier in the game, but since then he's been investigating things and more importantly, he's been pushing his reads. In a low-activity game like this, there is less incentive for mafia to push reads. Despite the aforementioned things that I don't like, the rest of his play feels towny and investigative. HoldenGolden + Show Spoiler + While LightningStrike has provided the most posts in this game, HoldenGolden has provided the most content in this game. He's been probing and poking everyone and seems to genuinely be trying to figure out the game. Null GTacc Vivax Mafia Lean Eywa- + Show Spoiler + His post on HoldenGolden, sharing his suspicions of him, that later vanished into thin air. It was his most explained and serious read, and seems to have taken a decent amount of effort to read a previous game and compare. And note that later, he even mentions who he wants to lynch but can't (GTacc). If he's still scumreading HoldenGolden, why wouldn't he be in this category? Or if something changed, why not say what changed? The only thing I can think of that caused this is in the time between these two linked posts, several people posted about either townreading HoldenGolden or not wanting to lynch HoldenGolden. It feels like once there were obstacles put in the way, Eywa- no longer wanted to lynch/cared about lynching HoldenGolden. Why would town be like this? If anything, town would push even harder for a lynch on his "naked mafia" read. Whereas mafia is much more inclined to drop it and look for a different, easier target. ShoCkeyy + Show Spoiler + ShoCkeyy says he doesn't like it when people analyze and look at opening posts too deeply, and implied that he didn't like HoldenGolden looking into early game posts. But then he said he liked how Mr. Cheesecake looked into my opening post and didn't like my opening post. Inconsistent, but not the strongest. Fecalfeast + Show Spoiler + Honestly this is just due to feelings. But here: On August 10 2020 08:14 Fecalfeast wrote: This post doesn't actually say much. He puts Eywa- townier than Mr. Cheesecake and Mr. Cheesecake townier than HoldenGolden, but only relative to each other. It's super non-committal and not very useful. Four times in this short post he says something to the effect of "I could be wrong," "I'm not sure," or "we'll have to wait and see." Of the three active non-LS people so far this is the order I would rank them from towniest to scummiest eywa cheesecake holden I can't read LS because I think everything he says is scummy because he doesn't really understand subtext if I remember correctly it has been a while. Trfel pings towny to me for his early questions but honestly meh otherwise nobody reads overly scummy to me. The only reason holden is on the bottom of my short list is because their posts seem forced and overly aggressive IMHO. I get they're an offsite player though so who know what they do over there. vivax we will have to wait and see. I like that he found a non-obvious post to make a read on and one I also liked to boot. Feels very disengaged from the thread. Instead of driving or pushing things, he's just saying what looks good and what looks bad. It doesn't feel like he cares to find mafia, just evaluate what things look like. Nothing insightful. He's not even posting videos or showing interest in the game. Fecalfeast as town is much better than this. I still need to figure out who I want to vote for most, but I'd definitely like to vote within these three. They are nice takes. | ||
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On August 10 2020 13:03 ShoCkeyy wrote: Alright, so based off current game, I think Mr cheesecake is 100 town. If I had to vote some one other than Vivax it would be Trfel just cause of his “I’m mafia” post. It’s really easy to claim it as mafia and get away with it D1 since most people wouldn’t want to believe it as this thread has shown. HoldenGolden currently seems a bit forced, but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt for now. Dunno, is this a mafia post? | ||
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On August 09 2020 15:01 ShoCkeyy wrote: When people look into openings too hard, it gives me the jeebies. Who gave you the jeebies? | ||
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On August 11 2020 04:52 ShoCkeyy wrote: Trfel obviously didn't read more into it because I actually called myself out on that very exact thing he's saying I'm mafia for. I don't know what you called yourself out. I know you called Trfel bad not much else. But really, I'm not sold you're mafia, but then why do you seem to think it's just townies voting you (Trfel, CC)? | ||
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On August 11 2020 05:01 Eywa- wrote: Thinking about HoldenGolden today is an exercise in futility, I've decided not to do it. Enthusiastic entrance, I don't know about his reads atm. Leaning town tho. | ||
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On August 11 2020 06:06 Eywa- wrote: This is a weird angle for town!vivax to take towards his top scum read 4hrs pre-eod... I mean, we need a decisive vote, I would like for it to be on vivax, but I will switch to ShoCkey if you guys insist. I haven't even called you mafia, and even less my top scumread. Don't know what game you're reading. | ||
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Do we just have monologues with ourselves now to catch mafia? | ||
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Then there's the two weirdos voting me. Omgus from my part is possible in valuating this but regardless I don't think the pushes actually have the good intention of catching me as scum. At the very least their pushes are at most good for lynching anyone but not for catching scum and that's how they read to me. Eywa is just headless chicken mode pushing me based on some logic where mafia has to be in Trfels list of nulls and doesn't reply to me when I'm his top scumread. Just keeps throwing some phrases at me like I give him the jeebies as if that would progress anything. Shockeyy pressure voted me and afkd but when I pulled out one post asking for an opinion nobody replied. I also don't know how the vote is supposed to work since I've been in the thread and he couldn't care less although that seemed to be his main focus. Cheesecake I like but he too doesn't get the feedback he wishes for I believe. Seems townie though. Maybe if I manage to get on a talking level with him we can bring some movement into the thread. LS like me also seems to have been rather chill and gives off a relaxed vibe. Not like the two dudes who seem to do a forced push. Going to have to see where he goes with his FF scumread. As for Holden, I think he grows scummier the more he stays away. His start was strong-ish but the latter string of posts was almost only focused on himself and telling people how to play the game. Maybe mafia, but I'll think about it when I figured out the two votes on me. | ||
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On August 12 2020 01:01 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll converse after work but I don't think that's works for you We'll see. In the meantime, I posted a monologue too  . | ||
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On August 12 2020 02:00 Fecalfeast wrote: Honestly it's why I've taken a liking to the turbo format over at mu. 15-20 min days it's not balanced or that complex but everyone is necessarily online at the same time and all conversing Yeah I have a game floating around with a similar format but point me to a setup and I might steal it. Though it seems peeps don't want to try my turbo game .I think this cycle we really need to lynch. And btw since you mentioned it, I didn't put too much thought into how to play the time for now. Do you think GTacc is gonna post? I'm not too fond of the idea of wasting a lynch I don't know or have thought how this game is balanced around possible inactive townies. | ||
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Do you feel like you don't want to play because there's people calling you scum? You spend more posts for Cheesecake calling you scum than doing much else. You got any theory regarding the game or anything to share as to who you think is mafia? | ||
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On August 12 2020 08:45 Trfel wrote: ##unvote ##Vote: ShoCkeyy ShoCkeyy seems all over the place this game, and very inconsistent from what I expect from him. Idk. Are you still townreading HoldenGolden? What do you think of eywa?I thought that was another option? | ||
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On August 12 2020 10:40 Fecalfeast wrote: I effectively did the same thing as cheesecake, besides the fact that I had suspicions about him previously. I unvoted while majority was on, too. Why is CC scummier, to you, but I'm not even worthy of a mention? Because you don't complain about the no-lynch. And because I don't see how the LS vote makes him mafia. | ||
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##Vote HoldenGolden The odds are higher that a mafia didn't (try to) hammer him than other things. Shockeyy why not lynch Holden? | ||
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On August 13 2020 02:33 ShoCkeyy wrote: LS responded for me, my only hope is that Holden comes back for the EOD to defend himself. No he didn't respond for you. Why do you not want to lynch Holden? | ||
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No. ##Unvote ##Vote: Shockeyy I asked why you didn't vote Holden, you said it's because your scumreads were voting for him. You said it when there were 6 people on the Holden wagon and you can't make me believe that you think 6 guys can all be mafia. Then you voted LightningStrike. You haven't even said whether you scumread LS before or after his late vote. And before LS voted for Holden: Me, Trfel and eywa are the mafia on Holdens wagon? It looks just like you're clinging to the LS vote because FF and Cheesecake voted him before. Truth is you just were comfortable with no lynching and keep wasting your vote. All things that make you mafia, because your reads don't change and you just keep pointing back at past stuff and you don't care to rethink them. | ||
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Tell me how you can be SO confident you have to be right that you don't even bother to comment about a player except pointing to the ones voting for him. | ||
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On August 13 2020 06:04 ShoCkeyy wrote: How am I partly the reason? He had five votes on him, and as soon as LS voted for Holden, everyone unvoted. How is that my fault?... And when did your pressure vote on me turn into a scumread anyway? That's also lacking in your filter. Why would I care to do anything at EoD if I could just play it the way you did and not compromise on any lynches? You are saying all the mafia tried to use a lynch for town at EoD but you, the townie, didn't because you had to keep your vote on me knowing it'd just be another wasted day? When the mechanics say that mafia wins if we waste time? That's the theory you're pushing right now. You have it completely backwards. | ||
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On August 13 2020 06:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: If anything, you unvoting Holden now and voting for me is scummy as fuck. Basically what you're blaming me for is exactly what you're doing. Why, you say Holden is town and you are town, so why am I mafia for not just afking on Holden and instead being here wanting to lynch you instead? What as mafia would make me do this? If you say it's because Holden is mafia, then it's something you shouldn't be thinking? | ||
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I wanted a lynch and he didn't play for the entire day after getting into the thread swinging, initially. But mostly, because I wanted a lynch so I don't see why you are putting the burden of explanation on me when everyone who voted at EoD was the most pro-town in the game. You have some particular reason you just couldn't join the wagon and lynch him? He wasn't playing anyway. | ||
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Holden has been away for 3 days and the GTacc dude actually came back, let's just kill him. ##Unvote ##Vote HoldenGolden Putting Shockeyy on hold for a lynch. | ||
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I'd seriously consider another wagon if he posted. Wish we had dayvigs for this game. Reminder to say everything you have to say because then it's silent night. | ||
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I think the mafia is in Shockeyy/Gtacc or Trfel/Fefe. (In no particular order but more likely pairings, though I lean more towards Sh+GT). But we have to murder this afk guy. or we'll never know. | ||
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On August 13 2020 08:01 ShoCkeyy wrote: This makes no sense... If I'm team with Gtacc then why do I suspect him being mafia???... Are you making any efforts to move votes to him? | ||
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So I don't think whatever you do with Holden indicates whether you are not teammates. | ||
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##Vote: HoldenGolden No shenannies? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote HoldenGolden Next day we should lynch asap probably, though it's hard with so many afk. Maybe we should just start lynching by inactivity and call it a game. I wonder if Eywa shows up with his lynch. | ||
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On August 14 2020 11:58 Eywa- wrote: I didn't like his unvote at eod, I didn't like that he was voting on the same wagon as Shockey (even though I think Shockey is town). From his PoV, he's willing to throw a lynch away in order to not vote with his scum reads, so yeah... I don't get it. Can we lynch Gtacc please. Guy realized he was late and then barely played. FF would be on board and I mindmelded with Cheesecake so I don't think he can be mafia. LightningStrike, would you be on board with a Gtacc lynch? | ||
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Just a few lines would suffice. I think his vote at EoD was townie regardless of Holdens alignment mafia would probably aim at no lynching in his spot? I mean his post was nonchalant for a scum. Mafia might have had second thoughts about the vote + post looking bad imo and the motivation to delay lynches. | ||
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On August 15 2020 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote: ##Vote Vivax I'm not going to be around to switch my vote later, i have other important things to do. Voting for Gtacc is pointless at this time, if he's going to be afk again all day, he might just get mod killed. Cool, you're wasting your vote again and posting an excuse for not being around. Do you even read other players post? I pick some I assume to be town for the day, then try to find lynches we can do. You just post that I'm overly protective of LS and peace out with another shitvote? Nope. Explain why we shouldn't lynch Gtacc or die. ##Unvote ##Vote Shockeyy | ||
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Fefe, Trfel, and LS are the only guys who deserve being called players and there's this Shockeyy dude trying to push me and LS because for him magically every offsite afk guy mustn't be lynched. How the fuck isn't Shockeyy mafia? | ||
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And eywa who casually votes him and goes afk again. | ||
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I willing to get lynched if it means you guys win the game And how would that help us win the game? | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Gtacc | ||
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Hi Damdred, your slot lookin better already. | ||
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Maybe mafia were the ones calling me scum and not null like most  | ||
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On August 16 2020 06:01 Dadred wrote: Vivax why Shockeyy? He has that brickwallish uncooperativeness and tendency to not give a damn about the game outcome I think comes from scum. Also his read progression on me & other people and similar stuff I mentioned earlier. He tends to just get lazy as mafia and doesn't really display motivation to do much. | ||
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Admittedly I'm not double questioning my reads too much because the game hasn't been very incentivizing until now with the afking but hopefully that improves now. | ||
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On August 16 2020 02:37 Eywa- wrote: I think the most likely answer is trfel + vivax. Though not everyone outside of that is cleared. I'm super confident about Shockey though and I don't think Damdred can be with vivax. Trfel I don't know but I'm not mafia and I haven't seen that read on me evolve at all during the game. | ||
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He ninjad my post so there's a 0,01% chance he's scum looking for the same answers as me. | ||
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On August 16 2020 06:48 Eywa- wrote: Do you expect that if I answer this question again, that I will somehow slip giving you a reason to vote me? I like how you already start from the presumption that I ask you things in order to nail you. And in an attempt to evade the question. Is there a reason for you not wanting to share insights on previous scumreads? | ||
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On August 16 2020 06:59 Fecalfeast wrote: I think i kill trfel over eywa here? Trfel read a lot more defensive when you were accusing him daddyred as if he's more worries about how he appears than eywa has been imho i'm playing fast and loose no filters rn but ill be here for deadline. I want a kill Trfel not really setting off alarm bells for me. He seems focused enough on a picture in his head, as mafia he posts enough but tends to not let it shine through that he has particular preferences. | ||
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On August 16 2020 07:03 Fecalfeast wrote: This is a stupid leading question but why do I get scum vibes off every post you make this game? It's a good question it tells me you're more likely town. I think the answer to this game was a random phrase that came to my head at the beginning of it (for whatever reason). Only a sith deals in absolutes. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:08 Trfel wrote: The main thing I have against Fecalfeast is that he's been suspicious of basically everyone this game. He's voted for so many people and expressed willingness to kill so many people. I can kind of see it since it's hard to confirm people as town this game, but at the same time he seems super bloodthirsty. I dunno if that is enough to make him mafia though :/ @Damdred, I'll keep thinking about it, but right now I'm not really seeing it.... Sorry if I am just being bad. Being bloodthirsty is good, is town. In this game mafia will most likely have a bag of old reads from D1 to carry around and just pretend to do nothing but now that the afk townies are gone (if Damdred presumably is town), in my view I am left with Shockeyy and eywa who fit that picture. At least that's how I remember it, but I'm going over their posts first to see if I'm not reaching here. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:18 Fecalfeast wrote: Literally trfel and what I said about trfel You mean you think LightningStrike was mafia for his EoD vote and your case is that Trfel as town should be scumreading him? Is that your premise? | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:25 Dadred wrote: But why? I don't think Shockeyy has done anything that alignment indicative Cheese is the mafia lunch here Sorry but I'm not lynching Cheese after this. On August 12 2020 09:13 Vivax wrote: Are you still townreading HoldenGolden? What do you think of eywa?I thought that was another option? | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:26 Trfel wrote: ShoCkeyy's play is certainly different from normal. In that he actually has reads, albeit poorly explained reads, but reads. Typically ShoCkeyy spends most of the game protesting not having reads. I dunno if that makes him mafia. But I think that makes him better than a no lynch. What do you mean he protests not having reads? As town? Doesn't sound familiar I think. | ||
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Why do you even feel like you need to dig up quotes? Trfel if you are scummy scum we can just vote you off, no need to feel forced. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:38 Trfel wrote: You asked, I assume you found it relevant to something. I just brought it up because I found it interesting. Typically when people ask about something, it means they want proof? Well in your case, you should know I'm on the Shockeyy wagon and don't need convincing so it looked more like you wanted to bring up those quotes to relieve some internal pressure when you feel like you're not doing enough. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:37 Eywa- wrote: Can we end trfel today? You are SO boring. | ||
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Trfel are you serene with being voted off? | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:46 Eywa- wrote: You can't think that the vote on HoldenGolden has any scum motivation, if LS is mafia, he just sits there and lets HoldenGolden go over and says "told you so, now sheep me you idiots". Like, this is the type of thing that IF town, you CANNOT post. It's just absolutely mind-boggling. Most likely correct. At least that's the way I saw it so really didn't get why Cheesecake somehow seemed mad at the thing. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:49 Trfel wrote: I mean, I'm pretty ticked off but at least it'd probably be better than a no lynch. Just really irritated because, as always, no one has a decent reason why I'm mafia but no one cares. It's a tone thing you seem a bit too concerned with the writeup and yet there's no strong conviction. | ||
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It feels like that this game too. But really, I can be wrong. Just don't want you to think that there aren't reasons for peeps to think you are mafia. There's probably reasons to think I'm too. Even if as mafia you put in the most effort even over townies it doesn't give the right not to be lynched. | ||
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##Vote Trfel Anyway, for nighttime record in case we lynch. Feeling like fefe and eywa came better out of this. | ||
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He's just throwing his vote away again. I'd feel better with 5 on Shockeyy than I do now tbh. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:56 Trfel wrote: Yes, I've been disinterested and demotivated. I think this game's setup really is awful with an inactive group, and makes for torture to play in. Of course I have no right to not be lynched, however I think I do have a right to not be lynched without valid reason. As does everyone, whenever possible. ##Unvote ##Vote Shockeyy Ok because I can't stand Shockeyy wasting vote again. | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:58 Trfel wrote: Are you asking me? I don't know, what does that have to do with me? No it was in reply to Damdred saying everyone here is town | ||
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On August 16 2020 09:59 Eywa- wrote: Are we throwing on another town? Switch with us you egoist | ||
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